Singxer SA-1 / Balanced Amplifier Fully Discrete Class A - beyond THX 888 ?!

[Jay_vs]

I'd like to add something as SA-1 owner, please save money and get better headphones, it will improve 70% of the system lol

So weird. I've been thinking today, instead of looking for better electronics, get more headphones. this amp is amazing and the dac is growing on me, so as you say get better headphones.

 

[Aztech]

Would the SA-1 be an upgrade to my Audio-gd NFB-1AMP? Has anyone made a comparison? Thanks in advance

 

[saadi703]

You might want to ask the user "Inkey31" @ audiosciencereview.com, he's got many amps, SA-1 included and Susvara

I sent him a private message on head-fi but it seems that he is not active on the forum these days. He didn't reply and I am not sure how to send private message on audiosciencereview.com website.

 

[Lolito]

LOL

Pretty sure Bricasti makes a delta sigma dac for one, as well as Auralic... and that’s just ones I know off the top of my head.
Although, in before those don’t qualify as high end, highly regarded or good sounding by some arbitrary logic, ignoring all their glowing reviews and user feedback... Though wether they sound indistinguishable I couldn’t say - but they certainly sound very good.

Not even after 500€ in drugs I spend any money in a DAC from Bricasti, or Auralic. Not even very very high. RME, fine, but Brocasti???? I mean, really??? Seriously??

A Bartok, a chord, a.... But A dac, from Brocasti??? hahahahaha And why not bugatti? LOL



Ducati DAC, La Ferrari

 

[Lolito]

Bartok R2R all the way!!

 

[Jay_vs]

Umm, it's £11,499 do you own one?

 

[Chibs]

I just spent half an hour switching from my Rme Adi 2 Dac to the Gustard X16, both connected to the GSX mini. I can't tell the difference between the two. Would I be able to pick out a Bartok? I think it's better to spend $ on Headphones and a good amp.

 

[saadi703]

I just spent half an hour switching from my Rme Adi 2 Dac to the Gustard X16, both connected to the GSX mini. I can't tell the difference between the two. Would I be able to pick out a Bartok? I think it's better to spend $ on Headphones and a good amp.

In my opinion, headphones make 80% of difference, amps 15% and DACs 5%. Better to spend money on headphones. I spend most of my money on headphones.
By the way, how is GSX mini in terms of sound signature and at the same time detail retrieval. Do you also own SA-1? If yes then how does it compare with Mini?

 

[Lolito]

I just spent half an hour switching from my Rme Adi 2 Dac to the Gustard X16, both connected to the GSX mini. I can't tell the difference between the two. Would I be able to pick out a Bartok? I think it's better to spend $ on Headphones and a good amp.

Exactly, those are both similar range of quality, same type dac. RME more features. Some people might notice a difference with a fast A/B switching. Some people might not notice any difference without that switch, and still would claim they are a world apart and they noticed. bias.

If you have a big house in the center of manhattan like the guy of the video, a 10 million euros house, or more, buy the bartok. Otherwise buy the Ares 2. You would certainly pick a bartok, it's a different type, if you have a revealing speakers of headphones of a certain quality. HD6xx or better you will tell the difference.

 

[Random Lunatic]

Not even after 500€ in drugs I spend any money in a DAC from Bricasti, or Auralic. Not even very very high. RME, fine, but Brocasti???? I mean, really??? Seriously??

A Bartok, a chord, a.... But A dac, from Brocasti??? hahahahaha And why not bugatti? LOL

Got to love how you set up a hyperbolic statement, and when its proven wrong, you just ignore that, and move right along to the next ridiculous response, and actually managing something even more ridiculous than what I'd chalked up. If you've heard and tested the amps you're ridiculing, do tell - though given your attitude and conclusion they all sound the same (which is a perfectly fair conclusion), I doubt there would be any point.

So could you either A) make an actual response, contributing something to the conversation, rather than just ridiculing/trolling. Or B) If you have nothing to contribute, lets get back to the actual topic of this thread, i.e. the SA-1? So this thread isn't derailed with another 'controversial' topic.

I for one am not responding to any further to this scene you're making. - And I would honestly find it more in order for this string to be removed from the thread.

 

[Random Lunatic]

In my opinion, headphones make 80% of difference, amps 15% and DACs 5%. Better to spend money on headphones. I spend most of my money on headphones.
By the way, how is GSX mini in terms of sound signature and at the same time detail retrieval. Do you also own SA-1? If yes then how does it compare with Mini?

I'd agree with that - I started out in this hobby not seeing the point in most expensive desktop gear, as I found most of it to not be audibly any better than the best portable gear on the market at the time; which was way more convenient, not to mention cheaper.
Since then I've dabbled in some of the more expensive stuff on the market, and have arrived back at a similar conclusion in all honesty - there are improvements to be gained, particularly with hard to drive headphones of course, but just in general, but amps/dacs have always been the least exciting to spend money on for me, as they generally present the least notable effect, once you've passed a certain level of quality... Ignoring oddities that intentionally colour the sound of course.
This is also why I'm curious about the SA-1: it seems like a good bet at that reasonable standard.

 

[Lolito]

schiit bifrost or multibit also very musical dacs, and with a good price.

 

[Lolito]

Got to love how you set up a hyperbolic statement, and when its proven wrong, you just ignore that, and move right along to the next ridiculous response, and actually managing something even more ridiculous than what I'd chalked up. If you've heard and tested the amps you're ridiculing, do tell - though given your attitude and conclusion they all sound the same (which is a perfectly fair conclusion), I doubt there would be any point.

So could you either A) make an actual response, contributing something to the conversation, rather than just ridiculing/trolling. Or B) If you have nothing to contribute, lets get back to the actual topic of this thread, i.e. the SA-1? So this thread isn't derailed with another 'controversial' topic.

I for one am not responding to any further to this scene you're making. - And I would honestly find it more in order for this string to be removed from the thread.

Hoho, so much drama!! oh my gosh. I said i´m not buying anything bisconti or aurealic, no matter what. Respect my opinion, like I always respect yours. I you like bisconti dac, then biscotis dac that is. Or ducati. Or bugati, whatever suits your boat, mrs drama. But I´m not buying any bisconti. SA-1, mine said ready for pick up, but went there and it is not there, so... monday if i am lucky it will be there for pick up, but with all the corona logistics issues, I doubt it.

 

[Lolito]

Bricasti!!

LOL !!

https://www.stereophile.com/content/bricasti-design-m1-da-converter-page-2

diplodocus dac. looks beautiful inside, 3 toroidal psu.

 

[Chibs]

In my opinion, headphones make 80% of difference, amps 15% and DACs 5%. Better to spend money on headphones. I spend most of my money on headphones.
By the way, how is GSX mini in terms of sound signature and at the same time detail retrieval. Do you also own SA-1? If yes then how does it compare with Mini?

Don't own the SA-1 to compare unfortunately. According to Z reviews there's not much difference in sound between the two. Not sure if affiliate links influenced his decision though. The GSX Mini is the nicest sounding amp I've ever heard. Unlike my dacs I can easily discern the difference between it and my other amps. Love the way it looks and the build quality is excellent.

Chib