Side By Side Comparison - AirPods Max, B&O H95, Dali iO-6, B&W PX8, ML 5909, M&D MW75, Focal Bathys and more

[Noble Audio]

I don't think is very appropriate at all that you comment about other company's products, their pricing, their warranty, etc. so that you can marketing your own product in this thread or similar not-sponsored threads.

The fact that the B&O H100 price is 1500 EUR and your product 700 EUR don't meaning much because there are differences between both products that aren't necessary for you, the competing company, discussing in this thread. You must allowing normal users, like me, discussing this differences. Not you because there is a very clear conflict of interest.

I was only responding to your reply directly to me. No offense has been intended in any way.

 

[TooFrank]

I was only responding to your reply directly to me. No offense has been intended in any way.

This fine and appreciated, but you started this saying: ... even if the battery life gets cut in half it still beats out the competition, I don't think you have a ton to worry about getting your money's worth
And we just said: No that's not correct.....

 

[Noble Audio]

This fine and appreciated, but you started this saying: ... even if the battery life gets cut in half it still beats out the competition, I don't think you have a ton to worry about getting your money's worth
And we just said: No that's not correct.....

I think there must have been some misunderstanding somewhere then. I was speaking to the hourly battery life. Apollo has 80 hrs without ANC and 60 hours with ANC. Even if the battery deteriorates to half of that, it's still competitive in the market. I wasn't saying anything about warranty. I apologize for any confusion.

 

[Tolarian]

That is true if you pay for the extended warranty. Base warranty is 3 years for them and it's also a $1550 product.

Stop spreading misinformation about other companies or their products. It's not the first time you are caught doing this on this forum and its reflecting poorly on Noble Audio.

 

[Noble Audio]

Stop spreading misinformation about other companies or their products. It's not the first time you are caught doing this on this forum and its reflecting poorly on Noble Audio.

There is a clear apology and admittance of the mistake earlier in the thread. It was not intended. I don't know of any instance I've spoken on any other product in this thread.

 

[Nemmera]

Not to defend Noble in this - but you guys pushed their rep into commenting the warranty. And I thought it was perfectly clear that he/she was talking about their own headphone's battery life being cut in half...

Of course there may be precedence to warrant some mistrust that I'm not aware of.

 

[streetbeat]

Probably not very useful for most of subscribers to this thread (asummingly audiophiles), but I'd be happy even if few people can find some answers about new AKG N9 Hybrid and Beyerdynamic Aventho 300:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new...c-aventho-300-headphones.974151/post-18412311

 

[LogicalDisconnect]

Does anyone have any thoughts on what wireless (preferably ANC) headphones would be best for someone who likes the ZMF sound signature, particularly the Atrium and Auteur?

I tried the B&O H100 but it sounded a bit unnatural to me with real instruments (violin, piano etc) compared with my much cheaper but wired travel headphones (ETA Mini C).

I am leaning towards the Bathys but I wasn’t a huge fan of the Utopia 2022 with my desktop setup (a bit bright / piercing at times for me, even with a good tube amp).

Many thanks

 

[yrstruly]

Does anyone have any thoughts on what wireless (preferably ANC) headphones would be best for someone who likes the ZMF sound signature, particularly the Atrium and Auteur?

I tried the B&O H100 but it sounded a bit unnatural to me with real instruments (violin, piano etc) compared with my much cheaper but wired travel headphones (ETA Mini C).

I am leaning towards the Bathys but I wasn’t a huge fan of the Utopia 2022 with my desktop setup (a bit bright / piercing at times for me, even with a good tube amp).

Many thanks

Agree the H100 has unnatural timbre and frankly this is common to most wireless headphones it seems. PX8 is probably the most ZMF-like in tuning but I still wouldn’t say it’s natural sounding. Give the Bathys a go and maybe try the Noble Fokus Apollo too.

 

[Ilomaenkimi]

I've had Airpods max and H95 among others.
Both "ok".
But Edifier Stax Spirit S3 is in it's own levels.
There's no ANC though. But that sound...
And price.

 

[Gerry Grigore]

I had Airpods Max and PX8 before. Now I have Noble FoKus Apollo, which are way above.

 

[bronco1015]

Does anyone have any thoughts on what wireless (preferably ANC) headphones would be best for someone who likes the ZMF sound signature, particularly the Atrium and Auteur?

I tried the B&O H100 but it sounded a bit unnatural to me with real instruments (violin, piano etc) compared with my much cheaper but wired travel headphones (ETA Mini C).

I am leaning towards the Bathys but I wasn’t a huge fan of the Utopia 2022 with my desktop setup (a bit bright / piercing at times for me, even with a good tube amp).

Many thanks

It's been a while since i heard the atrium, i am a big fan.
Haven't picked it up yet.
I think the Stax Spirit S5 would be a good comparison. not on the same level but to me Atrium has a unique sound and is hard to compare to other headphones. The Spirit S5 to my ears has that same kind of clarity and enjoyable listen

 

[Rat Tomago]

That is true if you pay for the extended warranty. Base warranty is 3 years for them and it's also a $1550 product.

I'm pretty new to head-fi but why is it fair game to have a company rep making statements about the competition? To me it just degrades the objectivity of the discussion to have a lot of back-and-forth with a company rep. Not to mention the criticism of the H100 being very expensive. I would suggest just letting the product speak for itself and leave the quarreling to the forum members.

 

[Noble Audio]

I'm pretty new to head-fi but why is it fair game to have a company rep making statements about the competition? To me it just degrades the objectivity of the discussion to have a lot of back-and-forth with a company rep. Not to mention the criticism of the H100 being very expensive. I would suggest just letting the product speak for itself and leave the quarreling to the forum members.

This has already been addressed by me many times over, and an apology already issued a long time ago. We are staying out of posting about products.

 

[Maukey]

Can we please move on from the attacks and critiques against the Noble rep. He reached out to me a while ago with an apology for what he considers a mistake. He's also apologized in this thread more than once. He assured me that it was not his intention to put down other manufacturers. He has permission from me to answer questions about his product as I'm not able to monitor the thread 24/7. B&O, Dali, and any other manufacturer who's product is mentioned in this thread has the same permission/freedom, as well as forum members like Angelom and mainguy who have a similar experience to myself when it comes to experiencing multiple wireless anc headphones. One of the many reasons I started this comparison thread was to encourage peaceful, open minded, non fanboyish discussion of many great wireless anc headphones. It would be nice if we could get back to that.