Should i get the ATH-M50x?
Apr 17, 2020 at 10:16 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

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Hellos, i'm new here. I have a lovely old pair of ATH-ES750. I loved their sound and look and for my taste the only other headphone comparable to me at the time was sony's MDR-100AAP(yep i compared it with over-ears).
Now in saying that i now want to move on to music production. Will my current headphones suffice and do okay in that department or am i better off getting me the well known ATH-M50x?

Note: i have never tried listening in to them before and due to the current pandemic i'd rather not right now.
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 10:34 AM Post #4 of 13
Hellos, i'm new here. I have a lovely old pair of ATH-ES750. I loved their sound and look and for my taste the only other headphone comparable to me at the time was sony's MDR-100AAP(yep i compared it with over-ears).
Now in saying that i now want to move on to music production. Will my current headphones suffice and do okay in that department or am i better off getting me the well known ATH-M50x?

Note: i have never tried listening in to them before and due to the current pandemic i'd rather not right now.

The Audiotehnica M50X has boosted bass compared to the M40X, so most folks prefer the M40X for music production/mixing purposes. The M40X to me is pretty balanced and more suited for mixing purposes IMHO, and that is what I actually use them for. I find the M50X too bassy for accurate mixing, but YMMV.

A lot of my band mates swear by the Sony MDR 7506 for mixing purposes, it has been around for decades. Haven't tried it but it looks to have a bit of a boosted mids/treble from the graphs, so it is not exactly neutral.
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 10:39 AM Post #5 of 13
The Audiotehnica M50X has boosted bass compared to the M40X, so most folks prefer the M40X for music production/mixing purposes. The M40X to me is pretty balanced and more suited for mixing purposes IMHO, and that is what I actually use them for. I find the M50X too bassy for accurate mixing, but YMMV.

A lot of my band mates swear by the Sony MDR 7506 for mixing purposes, it has been around for decades. Haven't tried it but it looks to have a bit of a boosted mids/treble from the graphs, so it is not exactly neutral.
7506 was a nasty heaphone with too emphasized upper frequencies.

I really have no idea what is required for mixing, but these M50X, 40X, thr 7506 are what I consoder DJ headphones. They are so crappy sounding that you can use them for 'monitoring' not listening.

Are headphones enjoyed by audiophiles not meet mixing requirements? Studio speakers are what's commonly used.
 
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Apr 18, 2020 at 10:41 AM Post #6 of 13
7506 was a nasty heaphone with too emphasized upper frequencies.

I really have no idea what is required for mixing, but these M50X, 40X, thr 7506 are what I consoder DJ headphones. They are so crappy sounding that you can use them for -monitoring' not listening.

Agreed I would never use the Audiotechnica M40X for casual music listening, but it fares well for monitoring and mixing purposes.
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 10:52 AM Post #8 of 13
Why is that?

For one it is closed back and has above average isolation for live mixing. And it has swivel cups, so that is pretty convenient for DJs/soundmen who wanna hear from one ear and rotate the cups to do so, using the other ear to listen to the house mix.

While it is not exactly neutral, the M40X is pretty balanced and personally I don't want too coloured frequencies in the bass/mids/treble for live monitoring/mixing. I think the M40X's midrange isn't that bad for the price, and midrange is rather important for live audio elements eg vocals, guitars, so this is one area I look at for music production.

But YMMV as always.
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 10:55 AM Post #9 of 13
I purchased a pair of Sony 7506 headphones in 1991 for music production with my humble 4 track cassette recording studio. Also I had a pair of ATH-M50s given to me a couple years ago. I don’t remember what the Sony 7506 headphones sounded like? Though I do know what the M50s sound like.

I’m more into IEMs now and feel you get a better value with IEMs. But that’s just me. It’s hard to be objective in this hobby sometimes. And to tell you the truth I’m not an expert in full-size headphones in this price range. Not to complicate matters but it’s always important what your going to use along with the headphone.

Still for me anyway getting some Chi-Fi IEM is just a more of a value purchase. Also it’s easer now days (for me) to have a night listening to something like the under $200 BGVP DM6 IEM than my M50s. Obviously I’m more into IEMs so take that with a grain of salt.

I do think the 7506s were better built than the M50s. For what they are the M50s are built really well. 10 years ago they were $70 and an even better bargain! IMO But it’s kind of amazing how both headphones in question here are so well made. I fully abused the 7506s and yet they lasted for years and years. Finally the plug failed. But going by memory the Sony 7506 had more of a treble midcentric sound. The M50s actually sound kind of strange now? They are very different than I remember the Sony 7506s being.......especially in regards to mid-range?

But not to sound snobby.....I really would avoid both. I like the Sennheiser suggestions here. Also if you had some heavy heavy amplification at hand something from AKG would still be a better alternative too?
 
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Apr 18, 2020 at 10:59 AM Post #10 of 13
Interesting responses. Thanks guys, yeah I opted to order the Sony MDR-7506 as that was the cheapest monitor type headphone with a good reputation. I have more specialized taste for even better headphones(such as the Sony CD900ST and the newer MDR-M1ST but times are rough and I probably shouldn't be spending too much on my first monitors. Haha I know these monitor types are "flat" and boring compared to some consumer and other specialist types xD
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 11:05 AM Post #11 of 13
I purchased a pair of Sony 7506 headphones in 1991 for music production with my humble 4 track cassette recording studio. Also I had a pair of ATH-M50s given to me a couple years ago. I don’t remember what the Sony 7506 headphones sounded like? Though I do know what the M50s sound like.

I’m more into IEMs now and feel you get a better value with IEMs. But that’s just me. It’s hard to be objective in this hobby sometimes. And to tell you the truth I’m not an expert in full-size headphones in this price range. Not to complicate matters but it’s always important what your going to use along with the headphone.

Still for me anyway getting some Chi-Fi IEM is just a more of a value purchase. Also it’s easer now days to have a night listening to something like the under $200 BGVP DM6 IEM than my M50s. Obviously I’m more into IEMs so take that with a grain of salt.

I do think the 7506s were better built than the M50s. For what they are the M50s are built really well. 10 years ago they were $70 and an even better bargain! IMO But it’s kind of amazing how both headphones in question here are so well made. I fully abused the 7506s and yet they lasted for years and years. Finally the plug failed. But going by memory the Sony 7506 had more of a treble midcentric sound. The M50s actually sound kind of strange now? They are very different than I remember the Sony 7506s being.......especially in regards to mid-range?

But not to sound snobby.....I really would avoid both. I like the Sennheiser suggestions here. Also if you had some heavy heavy amplification at hand something from AKG would still be a better alternative too?
Wow thanks, nice input. Yeah I got the SoundMAGIC E11C and I love it a lot, never buying cheap dollar earphones again. Only complaint is the left bud always pops out of my ear. Order some foam tips to hopefully fix that.
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 11:11 AM Post #12 of 13
Wow thanks, nice input. Yeah I got the SoundMAGIC E11C and I love it a lot, never buying cheap dollar earphones again. Only complaint is the left bud always pops out of my ear. Order some foam tips to hopefully fix that.


You’ll like the Sony 7506s! It’s hard for me to suggest them as so many headphones have come out since then. But again I’m no expert in that section of the market. The cord is the most memorable thing. The cord is like this big big giant thing than can stretch forever. It’s crazy I still remember the cord so well? All I had was the Sony 7506 for ever and ever. I had them from 91 till 98.

Tips for IEMs are everything. They affect everything.
 
Apr 18, 2020 at 12:55 PM Post #13 of 13
Yeah, it difficult for me to recommend in that range of pricing currently. At one time I've investigated that price range and tried out those DJ headphones, and I came out disgusted with 7506 and M40X. I know it sounds snobby, but that's my current opinions on them. I just think it's worth going for the dt770 instead if looking for a closed-back or at least the Sennheiser 58X from massdrop if looking for budget.
 
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