[Gjoel]

Darn you Massdrop.
Have been trying HD650 twice. Maybe 3 times is a charm.
Can't resist at that price point.

 

[Pedro Oliveira]

I wouldn't call them flat. Maybe with a high end amp, but through all the gear I tested with them, I felt the treble response was lacking. I imagine it appears with the right gear. I settled on the hd600's because I am a drummer and wanted to hear the cymbal clearly when listening to jazz: It wasn't present enough with the 650's. However the sound of the 650's are pretty magical and addictive. Just couldn't justify keeping both. It's an age old conversation. Hd650 vs 600. Depends on what you want to hear/feel. I like more detail (and bass) so I have hd600's with a cardas cable. Very happy with the results. Although I feel the 650's are not so accurate, they sure made me feel good when I listened to them. They seem to tap into the intangibility factor of all this for sure. Now they are cheap enough to try both!

Hd600 more bass than 650?!?

 

[project86]

I own the HD600, and its capacity increases tremendously on better and better DACs and Amps. If the 650 is anything like it, I expect it'll scale well on TOTL gear.

 
 
This. 
 
HD6XX fits right in with this little $7k rig I threw together.
 

 

[raybone0566]

This. 

HD6XX fits right in with this little $7k rig I threw together.

Show off

 

[goldendarko]

It's not a $200 pair of headphones, it's a $400 pair you are getting for $200. And as Jude said in his preview, he felt it was under-priced even at $500.

The pricing of things is chaos and often unfathomable. Items tend to go for the price they'll sell at, nothing more. It's not a good metric for discerning quality. Personal experience and consulting the experience of unbiased third-parties will lead you on a straighter path.

I own the HD600, and its capacity increases tremendously on better and better DACs and Amps. If the 650 is anything like it, I expect it'll scale well on TOTL gear.

Right but the poster had asked for a reasonably priced DAC to pair with it. If you've got $13k to spend on an Amp/DAC then I doubt you are too worried about saving a hundred or so bucks on the headphone. But whatever, I just think it's a silly recommendation, if you've got that much to drop on the Amp/DAC then you might as well get a TOTL headphone like a Focal Utopia not a value phone like the HD650. 

 

[blasjw]

Show off

 
Since he's a top reviewer, he has the right to show off without any consequences or repercussions.   

 

[project86]

Just trying to keep the discussion interesting is all.... carry on!

 

[Robert777]

Just trying to keep the discussion interesting is all.... carry on!

Is that the Invicta? Nice. What is the rest, I recognise none?

 

[conquerator2]

Is that the Invicta? Nice. What is the rest, I recognise none?

One thing looks like a serious Pass Labs amp

 

[akg fanboy]

It's not a $200 pair of headphones, it's a $400 pair you are getting for $200. And as Jude said in his preview, he felt it was under-priced even at $500.

The pricing of things is chaos and often unfathomable. Items tend to go for the price they'll sell at, nothing more. It's not a good metric for discerning quality. Personal experience and consulting the experience of unbiased third-parties will lead you on a straighter path.

I own the HD600, and its capacity increases tremendously on better and better DACs and Amps. If the 650 is anything like it, I expect it'll scale well on TOTL gear.

By what standards is it underpriced? It is not underpriced at all. The hd650 is going for $340, not $400. Also if you want to use your logic in that manner, I can say that akg is offering a $500 headphone for only $200 (k7xx) which is an even greater bargain since the k712 used to go for $500.....

 

[RERO]

Sorry in advance if this offends someone... but I think $200 is just right considering it's a repaint of a tweak and repaint (650), of a repaint (600), of a rerelease (580 Jubilee), of the HD580.

 

[lenroot77]

Sorry in advance if this offends someone... but I think $200 is just right considering it's a repaint of a tweak and repaint (650), of a repaint (600), of a rerelease (580 Jubilee), of the HD580.

They have been basically making these for over 20 years can't cost them very much at this point.

 

[PinkyPowers]

By what standards is it underpriced? It is not underpriced at all. The hd650 is going for $340, not $400. Also if you want to use your logic in that manner, I can say that akg is offering a $500 headphone for only $200 (k7xx) which is an even greater bargain since the k712 used to go for $500.....

You're not making any sense. If you want an AKG, buy one. Who's stopping you?

 

[etoilebiscuit]

Eh. Is the 100$ add on dac for Jodie better than e10k or can I run e10k through Jodie?

 

[akg fanboy]

You're not making any sense. If you want an AKG, buy one. Who's stopping you?

I made an analogy using your same reasoning on why the hd6xx was underpriced. Sure you can believe the headphone is underpriced, but your reasoning behind it can be applied to any other headphone. I never implied I want to buy a k7xx nor had anyone preventing me from doing so.