[scottymac]

I am looking to get a portable set of headphones, non IEM/earbud. I need something that is portable but yet still be able to hear outside sound, without it falling off all the time (stupid earbuds). I know I’ll use them during snowboarding this winter, so I’m going to be wearing a beanie over them. I listen to different kinds of music; from death metal to 90’s alt rock to droning ambient. These will be used with either my creative zen touch, or Ipod. Also, i will be using them unamped. That brings me to my first question, which one sounds better unamped? I’m not an audiophile (I’m returning a total bithead I received recently because I could barely tell the sound difference), but if there is a significant difference please let me know.

I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to the sennheiser px100 or the grado sr60. One big factor that comes to mind is the amount of leakage. Does anyone know which one leaks more sound? A comparison on the type of sound between the two headphones would be great. Does the px100 have more bass? Which one has more treble/clarity etc etc? I know that the sr60s are very popular headphones, and I’m willing to spend the extra $ for it. But the sennheiser px100 also have rave reviews. Thanks for any help!

 

[bubsdaddy]

I have the px100 and the sr-80 (close enough). The Grado leaks sound more and is much bigger. The Grado has a brighter (some would say too bright) sound with nice bass. The px100 is slightly warmer, great bass, smaller, easily transportable. but also leaks sound. For snowbaording I would choose the px100. You might consider the behind the neck versions - pmx100 or iGrado for wearing a hat.

 

[jinp6301]

youre describing the koss ksc75. fits perfectly behind the beanie, its pretty open and its the baby grado.

 

[scottymac]

bump, any other thoughts

 

[donunus]

SR60 hands down winner for comfort and sound! Looks too

 

[sonic_rage]

SR60 isnt much of a portable headphone though I prefer the SR60s sound over the PX100.

SR60 is a much brighter and detailed phone with less bass in comparison to the PX100. IMO the px100 has too much bass and its sound signature is too dark for my taste.

How about an iGrado?

 

[Thelonious Monk]

for wearing under a beanie, i'd definitely trust the px100 more. you're stone cold crazy if you are thinking about wearing sr60s while snowboarding lol, didnt work to well for me on a bike!

 

[vapman]

sr-60's would never fit under a beanie. i have both the px100 and the sr60. the sr60 has no isolation whatsoever, and they'd be a terrible idea for using while boarding. i always use my px100's as my mobile headphones. i've word them under my beanies, they're nice. ksc75's are great too, i'm going to pick myself up a pair soon. it all comes down to whether you like the ksc75 or px100 more.

 

[scottymac]

do they both leak the same amount of sound? i would think the grados would leak more because they are "open" by definition but maybe i'm wrong?

edit: nevermind. i was too lazy and forgot to read the first reply

 

[zumaro]

So I also have had both headphones and will confirm that the PX100s have better bass, and the Grados brighter treble, and just generally more definition and clout. However the Grados leak much more sound and are barely portable because of their bulky size and ridiculously long and thick cord. I would not think they are nearly as robust as the Senns either if they are being used outdoors in a sporting context.

Considering your use for them, the PX100s are well suited and are fine sounding phones. I didn't miss the Grados at all when I sold them and was only left with the Senns for portable use. The Senns are smaller, more portable, more robust, and will fit under a beanie. Even better get the sports style PMX100s like I currently use, so that I can also wear a cap more easily.

 

[Zorander]

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Originally Posted by zumaro /img/forum/go_quote.gif So I also have had both headphones and will confirm that the PX100s have better bass, and the Grados brighter treble, and just generally more definition and clout. However the Grados leak much more sound and are barely portable because of their bulky size and ridiculously long and thick cord. I would not think they are nearly as robust as the Senns either if they are being used outdoors in a sporting context. Considering your use for them, the PX100s are well suited and are fine sounding phones. I didn't miss the Grados at all when I sold them and was only left with the Senns for portable use. The Senns are smaller, more portable, more robust, and will fit under a beanie. Even better get the sports style PMX100s like I currently use, so that I can also wear a cap more easily.

My recommendation for the PX-100 as well.

 

[powerpentium100]

Check out the koss ksc75.

Cheaper than the Senn's. Note that the Koss' are a clip on type style. If it was up to me I'd get the Koss, but I didn't like the Senn's.

 

[Snacks]

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Originally Posted by zumaro /img/forum/go_quote.gif So I also have had both headphones and will confirm that the PX100s have better bass, and the Grados brighter treble, and just generally more definition and clout. However the Grados leak much more sound and are barely portable because of their bulky size and ridiculously long and thick cord. I would not think they are nearly as robust as the Senns either if they are being used outdoors in a sporting context. Considering your use for them, the PX100s are well suited and are fine sounding phones. I didn't miss the Grados at all when I sold them and was only left with the Senns for portable use. The Senns are smaller, more portable, more robust, and will fit under a beanie. Even better get the sports style PMX100s like I currently use, so that I can also wear a cap more easily.

^^^This sums up my thoughts as well, on this one, PX100's by a mile!

 

[Andrea]

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