shabta
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Most folks are reporting they hear more bass. But Sorrodje said he didn't hear the S as more bassy at all despite what he'd read here or there or despite the lolilol individual curves provided by Sennheiser with each S. bmichels reported he and 2 other head-fiers had not heard any real improvement between the 800 and the S and that it was disappointing. The serial no. on my 800 is 34XXX. I purchased it new December 2014 and must say the bass is quite good on many recordings but rather soft on others. Some songs on the same cd have slamming bass while other songs have quite a bit less. Truelies said he believes Sennheiser keeps improving the 800 and that high (serial) number 800's are basically using the same model as the S. (I can't speak to that). Perhaps my model 800 is one of those that reaches 5dB instead of 3dB. I don't know. I'll probably eventually buy an S. But until then, on days when I need to hear "louder" bass on every track, I'll put the 650's on, kick back and jam.
The only difference between Sorrodje and me is that on some tracks I said the bass sounded slightly more extended. Since he didn't hear those particular tracks, has a different, possibly less resolving amp, two different pairs of headphones, there are any number of explanations for this extremely small difference in reports. In terms of bass quantity, we seem to say exactly the same thing.
As far as other reported differences, i don't think there is much to conclude. Sennheiser is pretty opaque about their measurement methodology and if the methodology has been the same through the entire run of headphones. I can say that when others have independently measured pairs HD800 headphones and compared; they measured pretty much the same, old vs. new etc. So much so, that differences should be inaudible. (This was true even when the Senn supplied graphs were a bit different). Some people still claim they hear differences, but independent measurements, so far has not corroborated those alleged differences. It is still possible that there is significant model variation that is somewhat rare. Perhaps if measurements were taken on some other HD800s where people heard differences, those differences would be independently confirmed. But AFAIK that has not happened yet.
The bass on the HD800 is quite good. The bass on the S hits a little harder, and that is consistent so far with everyone who has heard the S, except for possibly bmichel ( who didn't say anything about the Bass). Perhaps he could elaborate more on whether they in fact heard no difference or if it was that the difference between the two headphones was smaller than hoped. It wasn't clear from what he wrote. Hope this makes things a bit less cloudy.
Anyway, it sounds like you have some good cans to listen to!