roach7
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Just bought a used unit but how do I tell it's really making any improvements to the USB signal? Thx
It does nothing to the sound. There is no sound passing through it. You are getting a digital signal of data through usp and it either gets to the Dac or it doesnt. There is no was a usb cable or something like this can do anything for the sound unless you have a bad ground and it somehow fixes it. Then it would just have an effect on distortion and noise from the ground.Music sounded fine before just thought it might sound even better with this type of product. It's fairly inexpensive so I figured why not give it a try...
People that dont understand how it works or someone with faulty equipment.Thanks for the clarification! So who's the target audience of such product?
lol, i guess i belong to the first categoryPeople that dont understand how it works or someone with faulty equipment.
There is no sound until the dac gets the data and converts it. Either it gets there or it doesn't. There is no way to change the sound after it leaves the computer and before it gets to the dac.i thought the purpose of this device is to clean the signal from a possibly noisy usb port and output a cleaner signal to my dac. or maybe my ears is just not sensitive enough to pick up any difference.
From what I can tell Wyrd could be useful if you are using a bus-powered synchronous USB DAC on a circuit with audible jitter and/or power/ground loop issues.i thought the purpose of this device is to clean the signal from a possibly noisy usb port and output a cleaner signal to my dac. or maybe my ears is just not sensitive enough to pick up any difference.
Thank you for such in-depth interesting read!From what I can tell Wyrd could be useful if you are using a bus-powered synchronous USB DAC on a circuit with audible jitter and/or power/ground loop issues.
AFAIK, if you are having USB issues worth fixing you will most likely notice it. There are various technical imperfections that can arise in USB Audio but which tend not to be audible except in extreme/outlier cases. Of course you can make an entire hobby out of chasing technical perfection, though in that case you probably wouldn't be on USB anyway.
If you want to know more, this blog post is instructive- http://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/08/musings-demo-why-bits-are-bits-lets-not.html
From what I can tell Wyrd could be useful if you are using a bus-powered synchronous USB DAC on a circuit with audible jitter and/or power/ground loop issues.
I agree with that, was trying to find a reason it could have actually done anything. If yiu have a ground look fix it or buy better made gear. Don't buy something like the wyrd.I don't think there's ever been a piece of home audio gear sold that had audible jitter. Jitter is a hoodoo designed to get audiophiles to pay extra for sound they can't hear.
Ground loops can be solved by tracking down the source of the problem and running a wire from the problematic component to earth. You don't need expensive electronics for that.