Ok i get It now, me too and i had tried the bifrost 2/64 and gone to the cyan 2 hoping to be settled but in my case i found out that the Frerot with Pow 1 enanches all the traits that i love of the stealth with the genre i listen, i think that the r2r Is not my thing.
I suspect I might be the same way because to me there is such a thing as "too smooth".
That's exactly what I wanted to hear.
I literally can’t wait till my MJ3 arrives, but to touch up on the dac stuff, the reason i like the Bifrost is because it sits somewhere between d/s and r2r, it’s really Schiits multibit approach that does it atleast for me, so as far as upgrades, I’d say it’s the yggy for me, or even the gungnir 2 thats been confirmed by Schiit, r2r was always too loose and lush for me (atleast from the stuff I’ve heard) and d/s was always too tight and lifeless for me.Had the bifrost 2/64 the cyan 2 If you like the bifrost signature Is the next upgrade for sure.
In my case the sinergy with the stealth was off as i explaind in the cyan 2 discussion, i'm not into hqplayer ecc and the cyan 2 closed the soundstage for me having the sound signature in front row and a lot of depth giving me a tunnel effect, but with the se or other hp like zmf i bet the cyan 2 Will pair great in my opinion.
In my case once i'll have the refund i'll get back the merason Frerot really loved that dac shouldn't have sold It but as i was saying you try and find out the signature you like for the music you listen, Is One of the beautiful aspects of this hobby at the end of the day you ears and your usage Is what matters. Considering all this the fact that i'm settled on the Mjolnir 3 speakes volumes on how good of an amp It is for me.
What R2R DACs were too loose and lush?
I am experimenting with I2S now because why not really just overdo it and aim for a DDC? Which is only really possible because DAPs exist and are so useful and awesome.speaking from the things I’ve heard, the ares and hifiman serenade (both r2r), even the ru7. To be a bit more specific they all shared the same traits to me, different levels Ofcorse, but they were all full, smooth, and just too soft for me. I do get the r2r hype though, i get it, voices do sound more true to life. I get a really easy laid back listen with them, but the music as a whole just doesn’t do it for me. it’s like r2r lives in the mids and mids only, like the hd600 series. Their good at what their good at you know, atleast from my experience.
I have a hard time telling apart my Airist R2R and my Bifrost 2/64 unless I am comparing them back to back with a switch box. You must have pretty good ears!
Back in 2019, I had Airist R2R and Gungnir MB and it was pretty easy to tell them apart. Bass was stronger and mids were more natural out of Gungnir and felt more plasticky out of Airist in direct comparison.
Yes I agree completely. Comparing components over the years, I find quickie A/B is for discerning frequency response differences (this one is brighter, etc.) But the full essence (true timbre, space, alive dynamics and presentation) shows over hours and days of listening to and enjoying (or not) music.
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