[bcowen]

I guess it could be a cat. Finnegan under a ghost name, perhaps?

Nah. I think Finnegan knows the difference between 'evoked' and 'evolved' even after hitting the bottle of Buffalo Trace.

 

[Lou Erickson]

Let's discuss manuals:

1. I know if we get rid of them, someone's gonna complain about us being cheap/assholes/etc. Understood.
2. However, if we get rid of them, we're right there with $3500 products (Cintiq) with no manuals and with massively complex apps and other stupid stuff with no manuals.
3. Most manuals are about 10% useful information and 90% scolding (looking at tools especially).
4. Manuals are almost always somewhat wrong.

So: manuals? Pro? Con? Indifferent?

Edit: I linked Tyler to this, so he'll definitely read your opinions.

Edit2: also, for the high school debate team champions, don't try to shift this to plastic bags and other crap in the box. We get it. We've been trying to eliminate plastic bags. Nothing is good enough so far. You get to choose between weirdo semi-plastic molded stuff to hold the non-bagged product in place, and bags. Some things (Tyrs) require foam, period. Magnis and Midgards and stuff like that have been moved to, or are being moved to, all-recycled cardboard. We beat FedEx to this, FWIW.

In the last week my first Schiit products have arrived - I'm happily listening to them now. I was glad they had the manual in the box because I didn't immediately get the meaning of all the tiny grey-on-black glyphs over the mode switches, or what the single, unlabelled button Modius was for. Now that I know, it'll be fine, but they were a mystery to start!

Manuals in the box made that a trivial thing. Having to download them would have been okay, but annoying. Considering the size of your manuals, I'd say that a "get your manual here" QR code would be almost as annoying to manage as the actual paper things.

If they are on-line, please do make sure they have nice stable URLs that don't change and don't go away the moment a product is not for sale. I know I tend to keep things a long, long time.

Edited to add: I wouldn't think about going off onto a tangent about how much other stuff was in the boxes. I was impressed with the packaging and how thoughtfully made and recyclable it is. Modi + was purely folded cardboard, and the larger ones mostly cardboard. Nothing glued together so you can't easily recycle it. I was impressed and could tell someone had put some thought into it, and I appreciated that.

 

[Ripper2860]

Nah. I think Finnegan knows the difference between 'evoked' and 'evolved' even after hitting the bottle of Buffalo Trace.

And he would never say a Class D amplifier would perform the same general function. Tom would turn him out if he ever did.

 

[valiant66]

My apologies. I will do better.

In loosely related news, just purchased some new light fixtures for the new house.

Inspiring!
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[Ripper2860]

Inspiring!
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Agreed. Michelangelo would be jealous, IMHO.

 

[Adam Balm]

And heat... The heat sinks are exposed on the bottom for a reason (convection). What a maroon.

maroon, ha

 

[Oveja Negra]

My apologies. I will do better.

In loosely related news, just purchased some new light fixtures for the new house.

Those are weird piercings. But to each her own

 

[docBliny]

maroon, ha

Yeah, they're totally Rouge One.

 

[ArmchairPhilosopher]

My apologies. I will do better.

In loosely related news, just purchased some new light fixtures for the new house.

Those would pair well with the boob lights I have all over my place…

 

[Topo47]

In the last week my first Schiit products have arrived - I'm happily listening to them now. I was glad they had the manual in the box because I didn't immediately get the meaning of all the tiny grey-on-black glyphs over the mode switches, or what the single, unlabelled button Modius was for. Now that I know, it'll be fine, but they were a mystery to start!

Manuals in the box made that a trivial thing. Having to download them would have been okay, but annoying. Considering the size of your manuals, I'd say that a "get your manual here" QR code would be almost as annoying to manage as the actual paper things.

If they are on-line, please do make sure they have nice stable URLs that don't change and don't go away the moment a product is not for sale. I know I tend to keep things a long, long time.

Edited to add: I wouldn't think about going off onto a tangent about how much other stuff was in the boxes. I was impressed with the packaging and how thoughtfully made and recyclable it is. Modi + was purely folded cardboard, and the larger ones mostly cardboard. Nothing glued together so you can't easily recycle it. I was impressed and could tell someone had put some thought into it, and I appreciated that.

yeh i'd hate to see the loss of paper manuals in the box. short functional to the point. Was just being nostalgic the other hour about how much I enjoyed Listener Magazine...i still hoard nearly a complete set. Someday I'd like to frame all the Schiit Manuals and hang them on the wall

 

[Topo47]

currently listening to Zappa Yellow Shark, a CD I have not listened to for twenty+ years...not bad...good actually.
this link works? love this Beefheart tape

 

[33na3rd]

I'm not much bigger at 13x13x8. It does open to an identical sized room , with some 3 ft walls sticking out (first reflection point?)
I'm pleased with how things are sounding so far. I was wondering if folks had any suggestions for room treatments.

https://www.gikacoustics.com/?gad_s...MIp5TbgsDUhAMVRhitBh1qjQ41EAAYASAAEgL1TvD_BwE

These folks have some interesting products, and will be happy to give some suggestions.

 

[cgb3]

Mjolnir 2 is highly revered many want one.

Jot 2 is amazing as well.

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The older younger people that learned that what they thought would be online forever isn't and learned to save both the manual from the box and their own PDF copy.



ftfy.

PDF is the great savior of the written word.

Save a PDF manual to my computer, and transfer it to my tablet.

Out of copyright books, the same.

I'm an "older" person, but I love PDF.

 

[Ripper2860]

https://www.gikacoustics.com/?gad_s...MIp5TbgsDUhAMVRhitBh1qjQ41EAAYASAAEgL1TvD_BwE

These folks have some interesting products, and will be happy to give some suggestions.

Definitely more elegant and with professional support to boot.

 

[michael2v]

I've been thinking about the safety deposit box idea, but hadn't considered full on cloud backup. Seems a little more expensive, but also, I haven't gone to the bank in years...

Cloud is a nice idea until you actually need to restore an entire 10TB volume in relatively short order (remote upload speeds are usually the limiting factor, sometimes as little as 1GB/hour). Some services like Backblaze can send you a physical restore drive upon request, but their state SLA for that is something like "several days per TB" to prepare. Of course if you're not under time constraints, it's a great option.