Scanner with Document Feeder

Sep 3, 2008 at 2:55 PM Post #16 of 23
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Oooo. I like that feature. I really didn't like that you couldn't pause or add onto a scan being started with the S510. Does Canon's software allow different PDF's to be easily combined into a single PDF file at a later time easily?


You'd need Acrobat to combine PDFs. The Canon software just pops up a dialog after completing scanning a batch, asking you if you want to continue or not. If you continue, it appends the next batch to the existing document, otherwise it closes it. It's not a general purpose PDF merge utility.

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BTW, I'm using a PC, just FYI.


Canon's software does not support the Mac, nor are there any 3rd party alternatives. Otherwise, I'd still be using a Canon document scanner.

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Originally Posted by Edwood /img/forum/go_quote.gif
One thing I noticed that the FI-6130 is that it has a manual override for the double feed detection so that you can use carrier sheets and scan papers with a sticky note or label on them. Does the Canon DR-2510C have such a feature?


I don't know, I don't have any first-hand experience with either. If my fi-5120C broke, I would get the fi-6130 simply because I have no alternative on the Mac - ScanTango does not support any non-Fujitsu document scanner. I think the Canon paper guides are better because they guide the paper from 3 sides, not 2. Their feed mechanism also feels more reliable in a way I can't quantify. Then again, I have not seen the fi-6130's supposedly redesigned paper feed mechanism.

In oddball cases, I just resort to my Epson flatbed scanner. I'd rather not get glue or staples in the innards of my expensive document scanner where they can literally gum up the works or scratch something.
 
Sep 3, 2008 at 3:50 PM Post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by majid /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I don't know, I don't have any first-hand experience with either. If my fi-5120C broke, I would get the fi-6130 simply because I have no alternative on the Mac - ScanTango does not support any non-Fujitsu document scanner. I think the Canon paper guides are better because they guide the paper from 3 sides, not 2. Their feed mechanism also feels more reliable in a way I can't quantify. Then again, I have not seen the fi-6130's supposedly redesigned paper feed mechanism.



This is what they say about the FI-6130's feed mechanism.

"Engineered with one of the most advanced
paper separation features in their class, the fi-6130
and fi-6230 are the first workgroup scanners equipped
with reversing roller technology*, resulting in exceptional
feeding reliability for an even wider variety of document
weights. Furthermore, the automatic document feeder
(ADF), capable of scanning document up to 10 feet
long, is also robust enough to feed up to three hard
cards continuously or an embossed card up to 1.4
mm in thickness."

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In oddball cases, I just resort to my Epson flatbed scanner. I'd rather not get glue or staples in the innards of my expensive document scanner where they can literally gum up the works or scratch something.


I do have an old Canon flat bed scanner, it's one of those early USB bus powered thin scanners, very noisy and very slow. But it still works.

-Ed
 
Sep 4, 2008 at 3:37 AM Post #18 of 23
The Fujistu FI-6130 comes with a piece of software called Kofax VRS (Virtual ReScan) Professional. Does it really make that big a difference in scan quality?
VirtualReScan

They make it sound like all document scanners make copies like an old fashioned black and white xerox copier.

The regular scanning from others like Canon DR-2510 makes decent scans on it's own, right?

-Ed
 
Sep 6, 2008 at 1:43 AM Post #19 of 23
This advice has been extremely useful. I think I am going to target the Canon DR-2010C. I'm going to skip the fujitsu S510. Thank you both for steering me clear of that headache. If and when I get the canon, I'll post my experiences here. Thanks again
 
Sep 6, 2008 at 4:57 AM Post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by Edwood /img/forum/go_quote.gif
This is what they say about the FI-6130's feed mechanism.


They can claim anything they want. I'll believe it when I see a knowledgeable (i.e. not NewEgg or Amazon) review by a third party. Unfortunately, such reviews are hard to find because it is a relatively expensive business product. Computer magazines like Byte, Macworld or PC Mag used to fill that role, but they are now little more than advertising vectors too craven to pan their advertisers' products.

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Originally Posted by Edwood /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The Fujistu FI-6130 comes with a piece of software called Kofax VRS (Virtual ReScan) Professional. Does it really make that big a difference in scan quality?
VirtualReScan

They make it sound like all document scanners make copies like an old fashioned black and white xerox copier.

The regular scanning from others like Canon DR-2510 makes decent scans on it's own, right?



It's fairly high-end scanning software, like ScanTango. One appealing characteristic of it is that if you change your settings, you don't need to rescan everything because it kept the scanner raw data in memory. I am not sure how it deals with resolution changes where you bump up the resolution. It is better than the basic Canon scanning utility, specially for high volume production environments like clerical processing. For home use, it's overkill.

In all likelihood the DR-2010C and DR-2510C share the same contact image scanner element (the same technology Canon later parlayed into a commanding lead in DSLR CMOS sensors) and thus the same image quality, the only difference is speed and ultrasonic double-feed detection.
 
Sep 6, 2008 at 5:14 AM Post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by majid /img/forum/go_quote.gif
In all likelihood the DR-2010C and DR-2510C share the same contact image scanner element (the same technology Canon later parlayed into a commanding lead in DSLR CMOS sensors) and thus the same image quality, the only difference is speed and ultrasonic double-feed detection.


Sounds like the DR-2010C was pretty solid to begin with, so the DR-2510C is only an improvement.

Yeah, I don't think the added speed and software is really worth the extra price for the Fujitsu FI-6310.

Plus, I'll have both Canon flatbed and Document scanner side by side.

I just submitted an RMA with Newegg, the restock fee is like $61. Ouch.
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-Ed
 
Sep 9, 2008 at 9:18 PM Post #22 of 23
Before I packed up the Fujitsu S510 for return, I scanned a few color pages from a catalog. I used a highlighter on some of the text too. It scanned perfectly. Kofax VRS (Virtual ReScan) Professional is a total waste of money. Not worth it, not even a little bit. It might have been handy back with low quality black and white scanners, but today the full color CCD and CMOS sensors work perfectly.

I guess I'll be saving my pennies for the Canon DR-2510 then.

-Ed
 
Nov 29, 2008 at 9:26 PM Post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by majid /img/forum/go_quote.gif

The only way to avoid double-feeding is to use a scanner with ultrasonic double-feed detection like the Fujitsu fi-6130 ($860) or the Canon DR-2510C ($630). The latter is the slightly faster bigger brother of the DR-2010C. Some online stores mistakenly claim the DR-2010C has ultrasonic double-feed detection, but only the DR-2510C does. Scanners with ultrasonic double-feed detection are usually designed with a better paper path than entry-level consumer-grade scanners. It used to be a very high-end feature not available in workgroup scanners until a couple years ago, only in $3000+ production scanners.

If you can at all afford it, I would strongly recommend getting a scanner with that feature, otherwise you would have to scan sheet by sheet, which completely defeats the purpose of a document scanner.



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