[robrob]

Robinette Box with Only 4-Pin XLR Output

This adapter will work with single-ended and balanced output speaker amplifiers.

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[robrob]

Robinette Box with Only TRS Output

This type of adapter is only for amplifiers that have their negative speaker terminals tied together (common ground).

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

Are these boxes available to purchase somewhere or does someone have one for sale?

 

[robrob]

No, they're pretty much for DIY'ers.

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

Gotcha, well I appreciate the easy to figure layouts. I should be able to rig one up and see how it goes.

No, they're pretty much for DIY'ers.

Anyone ever try them with Class D amps?

 

[BigAud]

Rob,
I appreciate the work that went onto your Box, and may build one.
I have a couple questions which I will split into two posts.
 
I tried several L-Pad calculators for loudspeakers found on the internet, and all agreed: for 8 ohms and 12 dB attenuation the resistors should be 6 ohms and 2.68 ohms, not 6 and 2. I upped the headphone impedance in your calculator to 1000000 ohms, to simulate an open, (no headphone connected). I changed the amp impedance a lot, up and down. In all cases I got only small changes. No or small changes are good. But the results for R3 being different is puzzling.
 
So I am wondering, how did you arrive at your L-Pad calculations?
I suspect there is more going on here than meets the eye.
 
 
I do realize that speakers and headphones usually have a reactive component and being “in the ballpark” is often fine. However when tuning my speaker crossover, padding my tweeter to match the midrange, I found 0.1 ohm of difference, out of about 1.5 ohms, made the sound “snap” into focus (like focusing a camera lens). It was startling. This could not be calculated easily: it was found by trial and error. (The amp then was a Yamaha SS receiver of good quality, not tubes, but this "focus" persisted with any amp I used.)
 
BigAud

 

[BigAud]

Rob,
Have you compared the sound of your L-Pad network to a simple series resistor, for use with a stable solid state amp?
I am currently using a (upgraded) vintage 50 watt per channel SS receiver and its circuit goes from speaker out, through a 470 ohm resistor for each channel, to the headphone jack.
 
I am wondering if I would get any improvement by getting fancy, i.e., building a box, or at least an L-Pad?
 
 
BigAud
 
PS. Love your “People for the Ethical Treatment of Plants” Web page. Reminds me an email I wrote some years ago calling for “Plants Rights”.

 

[murphythecat]

how could I also implement a volume pot?

 

[3ggerhappy]

@robrob can you please advise, I have purchased a Hifiman Susvara and would like to build your box just the 4pin balanced one. The amp is a primaluna dialogue premium HP tube amp. Now I have saw your comment in your site about the HE-6 that the box could go without the r2 resistor, will it work with the susvara? Can you please suggest a resistor based on the Susvara and my tube amp. Output impedance is 2.2 @ 8ohms from what i could get in here https://www.stereophile.com/content/primaluna-dialogue-premium-hp-integrated-amplifier-measurements. Amp is rated 70Watts. Susvara is 60ohm 83db. Thanks and sorry for digging this up again.