[Review] Tralucent Audio: Ref 1
Aug 16, 2014 at 9:23 PM Post #16 of 40
Haha I like how you omitted the first word of Kendricks song to please the Head-fi gods... (One of my favourite songs FYI, nice taste brah)
TBH, Im curious how an IEM can have such a bass emphasis and be so detailed in the mids and highs, guess I have to hear these IEMs eventually
 
Aug 16, 2014 at 9:36 PM Post #17 of 40
 
  interesting review!

 
  Nice review Eke, looking forward to your further comparisons. The photos are outstanding as well.

 
 
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Haha I like how you omitted the first word of Kendricks song to please the Head-fi gods... (One of my favourite songs FYI, nice taste brah)
TBH, Im curious how an IEM can have such a bass emphasis and be so detailed in the mids and highs, guess I have to hear these IEMs eventually

 
The whole album is awesome! If you like that track, I think you'll really like Kanye West's last two solo albums (My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Yeezus).
 
The fact that it manages to do that is the beauty of a hybrid design. I'm sure they'll make it down under soon enough!
 
Aug 16, 2014 at 9:43 PM Post #18 of 40
That would be great mate, I know a few trusted Aussie reviewers that would definitely be interested in these!

I absolutely love those two Kanye albums, especially MBDTF. In fact one of the few albums I actually bought. Yeezus gets a little silly and pretentious at times, but still is excellent. Definitely not an audiophile album though lol

Have a listen to Clams Casino if you dig spacious, well produced instrumental hip hop... Probably the best beats in the industry atm imo
 
Aug 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM Post #19 of 40
That would be great mate, I know a few trusted Aussie reviewers that would definitely be interested in these!

I absolutely love those two Kanye albums, especially MBDTF. In fact one of the few albums I actually bought. Yeezus gets a little silly and pretentious at times, but still is excellent. Definitely not an audiophile album though lol

Have a listen to Clams Casino if you dig spacious, well produced instrumental hip hop... Probably the best beats in the industry atm imo

 
It's a shame that his albums aren't considered audiophile. The level of production and mastering on his tracks is awe inspiring.
 
I'll give it a listen, and may use a track for the comparison stuff. Thanks for the rec.
 
Aug 16, 2014 at 10:13 PM Post #20 of 40
'I'm God' :) Next level stuff

Id consider MBDTF to fall under the classical definition of an audiophile album but... Yeezus on the other hand is certainly unique in production haha, Ill give you that. :wink:
 
Aug 17, 2014 at 6:01 AM Post #21 of 40
   
It's a shame that his albums aren't considered audiophile. The level of production and mastering on his tracks is awe inspiring.
 
I'll give it a listen, and may use a track for the comparison stuff. Thanks for the rec.

Are you serious? Whilst I agree that Kanye is a good producer, the mastering on his CDs is awful. Like most modern hip hop, it is highly compressed and fatiguing to listen to for long periods of time. I can understand this is an artistic decision and I like a lot of his music but it is about as far away from audiophile as you can get. All IMO of course.
 
Aug 18, 2014 at 2:33 PM Post #22 of 40
Best REF review yet. I could never get a bead on the phone's sig reading other reviews. I'll be meeting up with a friend later on today to hear the REF1. He tells me to prepare to be underwhelmed coming from the LAB I lol
 
Aug 19, 2014 at 11:58 PM Post #24 of 40
Best REF review yet. I could never get a bead on the phone's sig reading other reviews. I'll be meeting up with a friend later on today to hear the REF1. He tells me to prepare to be underwhelmed coming from the LAB I lol


We missed you today id! I was there and was looking forward to meeting you! Comparing it to the lab 1 definitely made it felt underwhelming unfortunately.

I agree mostly with eke. Bass i felt was too overpowering and a little bloated at times even, while mids lacked a bit of overall focus. I did find the treble quite nice and inoffensive despite still having presence though.

think im more of a fan of the 1p2 than ref1
 
Aug 20, 2014 at 1:50 AM Post #25 of 40
Yeah, I'm bummed about missing out! I had a couple of cool toys for you guys to check out too, and of course I was ever so curious as to what the REF1 sounded like. In truth, I was always skeptical of the REF, it's just that the draw of the proprietary tech and fancy schmancy wiring had me hopeful that something of a true leap in SQ could actually be possible. Kinda ironic that the most organic sounding phone I'd ever heard would come from two BAs in a titanium shell (that's right. Not dynamic drivers. And not wooden housings). But hey, like my ol' buddy Soundfreaq used to say: "nothing means ****." It all boils down to implementation and tuning in the end.
 
Aug 22, 2014 at 6:55 PM Post #26 of 40
Added Ref 1 vs ASG-2.5 comparison to second post
 
 
 
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Tralucent Audio Ref 1 vs Aurisonics ASG-2.5
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Methods
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I've chosen a few songs that I feel will be good tests for both IEMs. I'll post the song, with impressions under each track. Note that the youtube versions linked are below the quality of the actual files used.
 
The ASG-2.5 is equipped with its stock cable and medium+ SureSeal tips, while the REF1 is equipped with the Tralucent Silver&Gold cable and large Ortofon tips. The ASG-2.5's bass port is only veeerryyy slightly open to let the driver breathe a bit.
 
The upstream components used are the Fiio X5 as a DAC, connected to the Tralucent T1 amplifier.
 
 
*Notes: My main ASG-2 has been out on loan for months, so I haven't listened to it in a while. This is good, since I've become de-adjusted to the Aurisonics house sound, and I'll come into the review with fresh ears for both IEMs.
 
 
 
 
 
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Tracks
 
 
 
 
 
Feist - Limit to Your Love
 
 

 
 
- Starting with the Ref, the very first thing that strikes me is the Ref's very wide stage. It's really quite impressive. Feist's voice is dead center, with the instruments panning out far to the left and right. However, further listening points to a slight lack of depth to the soundstage, and a greater dearth of forward projection. Feist's voice is obviously boosted above the mix, especially in the upper mids. I'm not really a fanof the tonality it gives to her voice and piano. That, combined with the less than 3D stage take away from the experience.
 
- Switching to the ASG-2.5, it almost sounds bass light in comparison. The 2.5's impact is tighter though, and more defined. The 2.5's soundstage is not as wide as the Ref, but it provides a more immersive experience by improving on soundstage depth and height. Furthermore, Feist's voice seems more "controlled" for lack of a better word. Her voice blends in more with the mix, while still retaining emphasis. The Ref, in comparison, seems to have coherency issues in that regard.
 
 
 
Drake - The Language (Explicit)
 
This is primarily a test for bass performance, which includes dynamics, texture, and control. Additionally, it's a test for how well an IEM can retain clarity in the mids and highs despite the fact that the song calls for very generous amounts of bass.
 

 
 
 
- Quantity wise, the Ref 1 has more raw impact and rumble than the ASG-2.5, but that's where the advantages end. The main bass theme is a few short impacts, with interspersing sub-bass quakes. Drakes voice is meant to dance above the mix, and the hi-hats dance over it all. The Ref 1 represents the impact and rumble well, but there just isn't that sense of nimbleness in the low end. The ASG-2.5 has seriously concentrated punch, and instantly transitions into the sub-bass portions with awesome texture. The 2.5's overall tonality is somewhat dry, so I imagine that helps a lot with revealing texture.
 
Another thing that's more of a flaw of the Ref 1 than it is a ASG-2.5 advantage is again the Ref 1's upper mid spike. It proves to be quite distracting in this song, as it takes Drake's voice and replaces it with a nasal-sounding surrogate. The ASG-2.5 sounds far more accurate in this regard, as it seems to naturally emphasize vocals without any unnatural spikes.
 
 
 
 
Versailles - Silent Knight
 
My absolute favorite song to test for driver speeeeeedddddd.
 
The track starts off relatively slowly, but s**t starts getting real at 3:01. Here, we begin to test for smearing of note attack. A slower driver will make the shredding of a guitar come off more like flutes, and will smear the raw impact of the rapid drum strikes.
 
*note that the youtube video isn't of particularly high quality, so I advise you to find a copy of the song if you can. It's a useful test track to have, and it sounds awesome.
 
 

 
 
 
- The ASG-2.5 cuts through this song like a knife through butter, which is better than the previous revision was able to do. No problems here. Interestingly enough, the Ref 1 seems to more or less keep up as well, doing especially well with the speed of the double kickdrums. This seems at odds with how the bass performed with previous test tracks. I'm not sure how to explain this, other than guessing that the speed problems have more to do with the amount of bass it's been tuned to, rather than a general lack of speed an texture in the isobaric driver used. This song doesn't call for a LOT of bass, which would aid in assisting my theory.
 
 
 
Siebzehnter Auftritt (Papageno, Pamina, Monostatos) Monostatos: Ha, hab ich euch noch erwischt - Die Zauberflote (Rene Jacobs, Mozart).
 
 
Rene Jacobs' operas tend to be the most well produced and conducted that these ears have heard. Everything from the vocalists to the recording is impeccable. They provide great tests for dynamics, space, imaging, timbre and vocal accuracy.
 

 
 
- Again, the Ref 1 is impressively wide here, but the soundstage suffers a bit from GR07 syndrome, where it is takes on a more oblong shape instead of being completely in nature.
 
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In this piece, it is as if all the cues are packed into the extremes of the left and right blobs, messing with imaging overall. I really don't understand, since (I believe) the the housing and BA drivers are carried over from the very 3D 1plus2.
 
Additionally, when listening to this piece, I feel like vocal pitch and timbre are off somewhat. It almost seems like a side effect of the boosted upper mids, where the spike creates a relative dip that compromises lower midrange harmonics. 
 
In comparison, the ASG-2.5 has none of these miscues. Vocal clarity and transparency is better on the the ASG-2.5. Still, it is not without its flaws...I hear the ASG-2.5 as being slightly boosted in the lower mids, creating a sort of resonance there if you don't have a perfect seal. Overall though, I prefer the ASG-2.5 with this track for the improved imaging, timbre, and other audiophile words.
 
 
 
 
 
Hozier - Work Song
 
 
One of my ultimate tracks for ambiance. Vocals, atmosphere, soundstage, etc. It's all here. I love this song...enjoy :)
 

 
 
 
- When it comes to vocals and atmosphere, I've yet to hear better than the ASG-2, and the 2.5 surely continues in this tradition. In this track, the backing vocals reach through Cthulu-like depths of blackness to surround you. Hozier's voice then cuts through the depths to reach and grab you. The electric guitar and tambourine materialize out of the shadows, complimenting yet standing out from the mix. Essentially, this song is an experience with the ASG-2.5
 
 
Switching to the Ref 1 instantly removes the sense of immersion that the ASG-2.5 provides. The most notable difference is the relative  lack of black space, and the contrast between cues it provides. Where the ASG-2.5 presents the song like a well-mastered "audiophile" track, the Ref 1 sounds almost brick-walled in comparison. A lot of this comes from that damned upper mid spike, but the rest comes from the oblong shaped soundstage that just doesn't do justice to the track. Hozier's vocals also aren't quite done justice here. 
 
 
 
 
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I've really tried my best to transmit my thoughts from my ears to the keyboard without alteration. There are times when the Ref sounds simply great, but the overall tuning and soundstage are a but of a let down. The ASG-2.5 sounds more refined, more spacious due to its more developed soundstage, and overall more immersive to me. Clarity and transparency also seem to be better on the 2.5 due to the lack of dips and spikes that the Ref 1 has.
 
Thanks for reading.

 
Aug 22, 2014 at 8:05 PM Post #27 of 40
Awesome review Eke!!! I probably could have done a little better myself, but since you already did the review, no need for me to. Lolzzzzzz. Seriously, amazing review. I still think it's a toss up for me, still favoring my Ref1, but I am so happy with either IEM.
 
Aug 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM Post #28 of 40
Awesome review Eke!!! I probably could have done a little better myself, but since you already did the review, no need for me to. Lolzzzzzz. Seriously, amazing review. I still think it's a toss up for me, still favoring my Ref1, but I am so happy with either IEM.

 
 
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Working on the G2 vs G2.5 review right now. Hopefully it'll be up before the night is over.
 
Aug 22, 2014 at 9:39 PM Post #30 of 40
Great comparison Eke. Very interested in the 2.5 v. 2 review, but I can probably guess how they're different. It's too bad AS didn't send you a ASG-1+ for evaluation, a 14 mm tuned like Rockets is something I need to hear
 

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