Review: KGSS and Stax Omega II

May 30, 2004 at 1:05 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 146

davidmiya

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[size=large]Review: KGSS and Stax Omega II's[/size]
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I've been cycling through my headphones and amps quite quickly during the past few months. In fact, in the past year, I've transitioned from Meta42, to PPA, to Stealth, and finally to this. It's been a long journey, one that I know is far from over. It's been a number of weeks since I purchased an upgraded KGSS and a Stax Omega II from a fellow Head-fier. Since that time, I've been able to try a good deal of my favorite CD's with it. Quite to my delight, I did receive the Meridian 588 in the mail a few days before the Stax, so I believe I do have a source worthy of this setup.

But before I begin, allow me to explain how I got to this point. Well, after trying out the PPA (no diamond bufferS), I was severely dissapointed by it's performance with the HD600 (with Cardas). I sold that and switched to the Stealth/HD650/Silver Dragon combo. For a time, I was satisfied by this combo because it was so dynamic and really brought out the nuance in the music without sounding grainy. Well, something still irked me. It was the weak bass and somewhat sterile presentation. Yes, the Stealth is awsome as a preamp (and I tried it as such). However, the only problem is that I NEVER use my speakers!!! So, I think that it's best capability (as a preamp) was totally wasted. So, since I was curious about electrostatics, I listened to Vertigo's Omega II's and figured I might as well give them a try.

The setup I used:

Power: Monster Power HTS-5100 SS
Interconnects: Cardas Neutral Reference
Power Cords: Absolute Power Cords
Source: Meridian 588
Amplifer: KGSS (upgraded by zzz)
Headphones: Stax Omega II

Music:
The Gladiator Soundtrack
Spirited Away Soundtrack
The Best of Yanni
The Ultimate Kenny G
Norah Jones "Come Away"
Tchaikovsky 1812 Overature
Arnold Overatures
Josh Groban "Closer"
The Best of Whitney Houston
The Best of Itzahk Perlman


All the stuff that people usually skip anyway:
The Omega II headphones come in a nice case that I will probably never use again. But, it is attractive nonetheless. The phones themselves don't look very expensive, but not bad looking (in comparison to Grados). The champaigned-colored mesh is a nice addition and adds to the classy look. the gunmetal-colored exterior is just as handsome and gives you the feeling that these phones are something special. The ribbon cord is a bit heavy and somewhat microphonic. For those who complain about microphonic, I have a few words of advice "STOP MOVING AROUND!!" I'm not kidding, you can easily overcome any and all microphonics this way.

As for the amp, the amp itself was built by antness. However, it was later sent to zzz (by another head-fi member) for upgrades. As a result of the modifications made on the amp by zzz, this thing runs HOT. And by hot, it get hotter than 100 degrees in less than 30 minutes of listening. I was advised not to keep it on for more than 4 hours or risk overheating. Though, despite the low heat tolerences, this amp is much better than the SRM-717 that I heard at Vertigo's place. If you're a Stax owner and still have the Stax driver, do yourself a favor and upgrade to the KGSS.

The sound:
Many have erroneously compared the Omega II's to the Ety ER-4S. First of all, the only thing that these two phones share is that ability to resolve low-level detail (if you even call this a similarity). They share absolutely nothing in terms of sound signature, or ever transducer type for that matter. Now that we have that notion dispelled, I can begin my review.


The Midrange:
The first thing that jumps out at me is that beautiful, lucious, full, and incredibly smooth midrange. Though, surprisingly, the midrange does not jump out like you might expect it would. Instead, it remains perfectly in balance with the rest of the spectrum to yield a satisfying performance that allows you concentrate on the "music" rather than a particular part of the sonic spectrum. Vocals on the Omega II's are truly the best I've ever heard, even better than on the Stealth/HD650. Norah Jones's voice is just so clear and shows no signs of strain or tension. Some words that come to mind are "efforless" and "graceful." Unlike many dynamic designs, I can heard ZERO grain. It's as if the singer is sitting right on my lap.

The Soundstaging:
The soundstaging is something that needs getting used to. The "front-to-back" soundstaging is excellent and protrays multiple layers of instruments and sounds. The depth is amazing in the sense that it feels like the room extends forwards and backward about 20 feet. As for the sides, there is ZERO soundstage. The instruments are extremely compressed and seem to be coming from some spot about 6 inches away from the drivers. However, I must note that I never get the feeling that the sound is coming from the drivers themselves, which is a good thing in my book.

The Treble:
The treble is "okay" by most standards. It doesn't jump out at me as being overpowering or underpowered. It feels balanced with the rest of the spectrum. I must comment that the treble doesn't have as much sizzle and impact as with the Stealth/HD650 setup, but instead, focuses on bringing out the graceful qualities of the treble. The treble "energy" is somewhat lacking though. The "energy" in treble is something that audiophiles have spent a long time trying to define but never really find the right words. Well, I haven't figured out how to say this, so I'll just say that the treble fails to "excite" me.

The Bass:
The bass was the biggest letdown for me. The bass on the SRM-717 was truly horrible being flabby and overpowering. The bass on this KGSS is much tighter and more accurate, but nowhere near the bass of ANY other dynamic phone I've tried, including the Etymotic ER-4P. See, many Stax lovers say that the bass goes just at deep or deeper than some dynamics phones. I do agree that the bass goes deep. But, the bass on electrostatics simply does not attain the compression levels that dynamic phones can produce. I don't care how if they come out new improvements to the electrostatic membrane, it's just out of the capability of electrostatics to reproduce lifelike bass. To illustrate my point, I will look to the 1812 Overature/. As many of you audiophiles know, this is one of the best CD's to demonstrate the bass capabilities of a soundsystem. When I put on this CD, the attack of the cannons "almost" felt realistic, but the decay was horrible. In essence, I felt the initial compression, but the energy dissapeared soon after.

I'm a firm believer that the excitement in music comes from two places: the treble and the bass. The treble is "passable" with the Omegas. The bass, however, is complete lacking and unsatisfactory by all accounts. If you're die-hard Stax owner and think that there's something wrong with my hearing, I give you permission to promptly close this window and never visit this thread again.

But there are many other good things:
The ambiance and decay on these things is awsome. It seems like piano notes sustain forever. Also guitar plucks come alive and seems to drift off into nothing. As I said earlier, the ability of these phones to resolve low-level detail is second to none. This definitely where the Omegas shine.

Some other minor complaints:
This is totally my personal preference, but feel that the Omega's presention is a bit too laid back for me. I used to think that the Sennheisers were laid back. And it's true, they are quite lack back. However, the HD650's are much more upfront and really added a lot of excitement to the sound. IMO, the HD650's got the energy just right. However, it feels like the Omegas push the listening back a few more rows than the HD650, just enough to detract from the energy and excitement. In fact, I oftentimes find myself almost falling asleep because of this presentation. Is this presentation bad? Maybe, maybe not. It depends what you like. Though, I like to be sitting a few rows back from the front row. The Omegas have me a few rows past the middle currently.

Wrapup:
the KGSS/Omega II combo is definitely a system worth investing into if you have the money and don't mind the electrostatic bass sound. The detail and midrange are to die for. However, for those hardcore rockers, don't go near this setup or you will be seriously disspointed. Am I a hardcore rocker? No, but I like to have bass energy in my music.

My rating: A-
 
May 30, 2004 at 1:10 AM Post #2 of 146
Good review...thanks. Have you been lucky enough to sample any other electrostatic cans to which you might compare this?
 
May 30, 2004 at 1:16 AM Post #3 of 146
Nice layout and organization. I like your review style its very clear and personal. I have never heard these and likely never will but I enjoyed this review anyway. GOOD JOB!
 
May 30, 2004 at 1:19 AM Post #4 of 146
Great review!
Some points. I heard the bozebuttons insane rig with the Omega II (Meitner SACD/DAC--> KGSS --> OII) and was fairly unimpressed as compared to either the Orpheus (in the same rig) or the R10 in my rig. I agree that the bass was lacking and overall it sounded very tame. Almost as bad as an HD600. The orpheus although electrostatic was far more intereseting and gripping to listen to with far more control and a much richer sound. I wouldn't call teh OII neutral because I think that neutrality is a very positive quality. IMHO (extremely humble!) the OII sounds boring. Even with the KGSS. I disagree with the A- rating and given its price, only rate it at a B-. If it had been the price of a Baby Orph. maybe even a B or a B+. My idea of an A+ is the R10.
In a ranking of titans
1. R10
2. HE-90
3. PS-1
4. K1000
5. HP-1000
6. RS-1
7. Baby orph.
8. HD-580
9. HD-650
10. Omega II

I dislike the HD600s and cannot rank the SR-325s because I am biased towards them being an owner.
 
May 30, 2004 at 1:49 AM Post #5 of 146
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As a result of an oversized toroidal transformer, this thing runs HOT. And by hot, it get hotter than 100 degrees in less than 30 minutes of listening. I was advised not to keep it on for more than 4 hours or risk overheating.


David, It sounds like the power supply isn't properly heatsinked. You should be able to run a solid state headphone amp all the time. The KGSS does dissipate a ton of wattage as heat, however you should't have to worry about overheating. That isn't normal.

Nice review. The Omega is nowhere near a perfect headphone however it is my favorite behind the HE-90. Electrostatic headphones take a bit of extra work to get right, and I am still working on perfecting my system.

One thing I recommend trying is to play music through the headphones for 2 plus hours and then listen. See if there is any change in the sound after that period. Since you keep your amp off when not listening maybe you aren't giving enough time to get it warmed up. Also, have you experimented with pad positions? Getting it exactly right is critical to getting good bass response. I know these things have been said before in other threads but can't stress their importance enough.

Kartik, those were my Omegas at the NY meet. They hadn't been used in a few weeks so there was no charge on the diaghragm. If you heard them before they warmed up then you heard a different headphone. The O2 after it warms up sounds remarkably different. OT--why do you rate the Senn 580's over the 650's?
 
May 30, 2004 at 1:49 AM Post #6 of 146
Excellent review. You didnt hold back any punches and thats something I like.

What is a PLUS about the Omega-2 is the speed. VERY fast with almost all music genres. Fantastic with Jazz and classical Instrumental music. Havent tried it with vocal.

I agree with most of your points.

KGSS & HEAT :-
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Why dont you try installing a small CPU fan inside and power it with a battery? I am sure you wont hear any "SONIC" difference and it could prolong the life of your hardware.

Cheers!
 
May 30, 2004 at 1:57 AM Post #7 of 146
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Originally Posted by Canman
Kartik, those were my Omegas at the NY meet. They hadn't been used in a few weeks so there was no charge on the diaghragm. If you heard them before they warmed up then you heard a different headphone. The O2 after it warms up sounds remarkably different. OT--why do you rate the Senn 580's over the 650's?


Sorry for the confusion about whose Omegas they were. Lan had told me that almost all the gear in that room belonged to Boz. so I assumed they were his. You point about warming them up is true, thanks to people constantly unplugging stuff from the ES amp. However I was pretty much hanging around the KGSS for the whole meet and tried to listen to these cans as much as I could between the hordes and these were my impressions. Still, a meet is but a brief romance.
OT (too) the 580s sounded much nicer out of the CARY SLP preamp than anything else from the Sennheiser HD lot (Orphs. excluded). It might have something to do with the fact that I heard the 580s with the Cary and the 650s with the Supra/ MPX3/ Maestro ZR and RKV.
 
May 30, 2004 at 2:37 AM Post #8 of 146
David,

It would appear you and I have very different ears. I tend to disagree with many points on the review. Most of which involve the "Excitement" of the Omega II. Admittedly, I have not spent alot of time with the KGSS, however, I have spent alot of time with the 007t. I feel the Omega II's are as exciting as the source material. That is, if you're listening to an energy-charged orchastra, they energy is passed to your ears. Adulterated by the fact that it's a recording. I feel the bass from the Omega II is more realistic than that of the HD580. In fact, I am listening to HD580's as I write this. The bass is different for sure, but I have listened to -alot- of live music, and the bass produced by the Omega II / 007t is much closer to what I hear in reality. As always, I respect that we have different ears, as my first comment had indicated. Summarising; I do not feel that the HD580/600/650 hold a candle to the Omega II's for realism. Perhaps you had made a mistake selling your HD650/Stealth setup.

Cheers!

Trevor
 
May 30, 2004 at 2:50 AM Post #9 of 146
Nice review, it's always good to get well stated opposing viewpoints about any piece of audio gear. It tends to make the picture complete and for that I thank you. just out of curiosity, how would you feel about the Omega II's if the only types of music you listened to were classical and jazz? Would this be a must buy?
 
May 30, 2004 at 3:02 AM Post #11 of 146
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Originally Posted by gpalmer
Nice review, it's always good to get well stated opposing viewpoints about any piece of audio gear. It tends to make the picture complete and for that I thank you. just out of curiosity, how would you feel about the Omega II's if the only types of music you listened to were classical and jazz? Would this be a must buy?


Surprisingly, these phones actually don't sound that good with classical. The PRaT just isn't there in the Omega's rendering of that genre of music. Though, if I only listened to jazz with no kickdrum, then I would buy this system without a doubt.
 
May 30, 2004 at 3:06 AM Post #12 of 146
Wow, what a well-balanced, well-addressed review for its length. Now I need to come over and try those headphones for myself!
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May 30, 2004 at 3:13 AM Post #13 of 146
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Originally Posted by davidmiya
Surprisingly, these phones actually don't sound that good with classical. The PRaT just isn't there in the Omega's rendering of that genre of music. Though, if I only listened to jazz with no kickdrum, then I would buy this system without a doubt.


Sounds like you need to meet Mr Ps-1.
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May 30, 2004 at 3:26 AM Post #15 of 146
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Originally Posted by KR...
It sounds like there is something seriously wrong with your amp, KGSS were meant to run 24/7 and some in fact do not even come with on/off switches. I would strongly suggest you have that checked out by someone else.


Just to clarify, antness just told me that the heat issues are due to a COMPLETE rework of the KGSS by zzz. So, technically, the stock amp should be able to run indefinitely. But the modified amp does not share the same tolerances...
 

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