Jesus Christ that's huge, I don't know how to scale it down, sorry
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Radiohead: Vinyl vs CD Comparisons ??
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Wow, those Body Snatchers waveforms are ridiculous! I had no idea it was that bad. Thanks for finding that -- it is illuminating.
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Haha, very true... I should keep this to headphone only complaints!
Originally Posted by rederanged /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yep, right on. By the way, this is a headphone forum, right? If you're getting acoustic feedback to your TT through your cans, I think you might have them just a little too loud. |
Haha, very true... I should keep this to headphone only complaints!
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I'm not sure that spl causes too much of a problem with vinyl replay: given most home set-ups. It's the ground borne stuff that's the problem.
There will be experts that can help me out on this, but the wavelength of bass isn't going to do much to a stylus that is running extremely high energy at a much much higher frequency: distortion is more likely to be arm resonance, tracking and a whole load of other things that drive the vinyl fan to utter distraction late a night. (things like scratches on Oscar's Night Train!)(gr)
I think most systems will struggle to get feedback directly from the speakers to the stylus..
However, low waveforms excite the room, and this will travel back through some system supports (use a low pass filter like the townshend supports and keep your speakers away from walls).
I could be talking utter rubbish though..
I would say of OK computer vinyl (mine was bought roughly when it came out on 180g) that some passages will test your system and encourage you to spend a fortune sorting it out.
There will be experts that can help me out on this, but the wavelength of bass isn't going to do much to a stylus that is running extremely high energy at a much much higher frequency: distortion is more likely to be arm resonance, tracking and a whole load of other things that drive the vinyl fan to utter distraction late a night. (things like scratches on Oscar's Night Train!)(gr)
I think most systems will struggle to get feedback directly from the speakers to the stylus..
However, low waveforms excite the room, and this will travel back through some system supports (use a low pass filter like the townshend supports and keep your speakers away from walls).
I could be talking utter rubbish though..
I would say of OK computer vinyl (mine was bought roughly when it came out on 180g) that some passages will test your system and encourage you to spend a fortune sorting it out.
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I bought Kid A on 10"vinyl - it sounds really warm - better than CD.
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Thanks for the idea. I can't listen to the real thing so I'll just fake it. Im pretty sure its not even close to the real thing but it does sound little different I think. I haven't heard much of them on my new IEMs though since I burned myself out before the show I went to in August so I have backed off listening for a while.
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....except perhaps on the bends, but I'm not sure if a better version of that exists. It sounds like a made-for-radio CD, unfortunately. OK computer's CD is good. Not great but fine. I agree that there is a small amount of sibilance and overall it's a bit compressed in the un-airy sense, but only in comparison with the vinyl which is epic, with great art I may add. Would that all CDs were as well mastered. The vinyl is better but not drastically so. Kid A and Amnesiac are wonderful on CD.
I have always thought Radiohead albums were reasonably well recorded and mastered on CD. I do not hear the dynamic range compression and clipping problems that are typical of the loudness war. |
....except perhaps on the bends, but I'm not sure if a better version of that exists. It sounds like a made-for-radio CD, unfortunately. OK computer's CD is good. Not great but fine. I agree that there is a small amount of sibilance and overall it's a bit compressed in the un-airy sense, but only in comparison with the vinyl which is epic, with great art I may add. Would that all CDs were as well mastered. The vinyl is better but not drastically so. Kid A and Amnesiac are wonderful on CD.
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I don't have a LP player but I do have the O.K computer vinyl ripped to FLAC for my Foobar2000 24-bit at around 3500kpbs quality. I play it with a tube preamp, Adcom power amp, and DIY speakers, and also NOS DAC, tube headamp and AKG k701 setup and it sounds amazing!! Great soundstage with this setup. Feels like your sitting in their studio!
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I sure hope there's a difference, considering I bought four of their albums on vinyl
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The bonus CD of In Rainbows sounds pretty damned awful.
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I know this is a little off-topic, but does it bother anyone else that when Radiohead played on the Grammys, it was just Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood on lead guitar, along with a high school drum band.
The performance was excellent, the drums and horns were really well done, but if I were the rest of the members I'd be really pissed off.
Unless they are breaking up, or there were scheduling conflicts, this, to me, was a serious letdown. They are an integral part of what makes Radiohead so great.
The performance was excellent, the drums and horns were really well done, but if I were the rest of the members I'd be really pissed off.
Unless they are breaking up, or there were scheduling conflicts, this, to me, was a serious letdown. They are an integral part of what makes Radiohead so great.
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I doubt Phil, Ed, or Colin cared much, especially if there was nothing to do as per the arrangement (which wasn't done by RH). They probably didn't even want to do the Grammies. Maybe they were home hard at work on LP8. *hopes* This article teases me so badly.
Originally Posted by immtbiker /img/forum/go_quote.gif I know this is a little off-topic, but does it bother anyone else that when Radiohead played on the Grammys, it was just Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood on lead guitar, along with a high school drum band. The performance was excellent, the drums and horns were really well done, but if I were the rest of the members I'd be really pissed off. Unless they are breaking up, or there were scheduling conflicts, this, to me, was a serious letdown. They are an integral part of what makes Radiohead so great. |
I doubt Phil, Ed, or Colin cared much, especially if there was nothing to do as per the arrangement (which wasn't done by RH). They probably didn't even want to do the Grammies. Maybe they were home hard at work on LP8. *hopes* This article teases me so badly.
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Thom and Jonny have performed together numerous times. The others guys don't mind.
Originally Posted by immtbiker /img/forum/go_quote.gif I know this is a little off-topic, but does it bother anyone else that when Radiohead played on the Grammys, it was just Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood on lead guitar, along with a high school drum band. The performance was excellent, the drums and horns were really well done, but if I were the rest of the members I'd be really pissed off. Unless they are breaking up, or there were scheduling conflicts, this, to me, was a serious letdown. They are an integral part of what makes Radiohead so great. |
Thom and Jonny have performed together numerous times. The others guys don't mind.
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I know they are the antithesis of commercialism, but the Grammys and SNL.
That's baseball's equivalent to being "in the show".
I know everybody performed on SNL, it was just part of the example.
That's baseball's equivalent to being "in the show".
I know everybody performed on SNL, it was just part of the example.
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Wow - very interesting dynamic range comparisons here!
BombayTheIndian, I looked into the same files and though your graphs above paint a very grim picture of the music, when you zoom into the wave you'll notice the clipping isn't quite as bad as it seems. Still a significant amount of clipping going on though!
BombayTheIndian, I looked into the same files and though your graphs above paint a very grim picture of the music, when you zoom into the wave you'll notice the clipping isn't quite as bad as it seems. Still a significant amount of clipping going on though!
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