PW Audio Cables Discussion Thread

[ONRX]

A quick comparison between 1960s, 1950s and FT?

 

[kitsura]

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/pw-audio-1900-cables.23490/reviews

https://twister6.com/2021/11/15/pwaudio-first-time/

TL;DR the 1950s is the most neutral sounding of the lot.

 

[drftr]

A quick comparison between 1960s, 1950s and FT?

I did at some point, but long story short and from the top of my head:

1960s neutral-bright, more perceived details.
1950s analog, better note weight, more bodied.
FTS neutral-bright, better note weight, more dynamic, more perceived details.

FTS would have been my preference except that I'm a sucker for the more analog timbre of 1950s.

The shielded versions clean up the sounds, make them more detailed, better staging, better details, more 3D, slightly less warm, and more dynamic.

FWIW...

drftr

 

[phiemon]

I did at some point, but long story short and from the top of my head:

1960s neutral-bright, more perceived details.
1950s analog, better note weight, more bodied.
FTS neutral-bright, better note weight, more dynamic, more perceived details.

FTS would have been my preference except that I'm a sucker for the more analog timbre of 1950s.

The shielded versions clean up the sounds, make them more detailed, better staging, better details, more 3D, slightly less warm, and more dynamic.

FWIW...

drftr

I think it's the other way around as far as 1960s and 1950s are concerned: 1960s is analog etc.... isn't it?!

 

[eugn]

I recently sold my 1960. I also have the FT and the rare Metropolis ft50s. I can say that the 1960 and FT have a similar presentation - analog, lush, with a good amount of air, sparkling yet comfortable highs. The FT feels slightly "thicker" than the 1960. I wouldn’t overpay for the FT and would go for the 1960 if possible.
Metropolis, on the other hand, is on a whole different level, offering a completely opposite, clean, and spacious presentation. A highly successful experiment by PWA utilizing a gold and silver alloy.

 

[phiemon]

I recently sold my 1960. I also have the FT and the rare Metropolis ft50s. I can say that the 1960 and FT have a similar presentation - analog, lush, with a good amount of air, sparkling yet comfortable highs. The FT feels slightly "thicker" than the 1960. I wouldn’t overpay for the FT and would go for the 1960 if possible.
Metropolis, on the other hand, is on a whole different level, offering a completely opposite, clean, and spacious presentation. A highly successful experiment by PWA utilizing a gold and silver alloy.

I remember FT having recessed mids. But Traillii's 1960s SE is exactly the opposite. Again, Traillii's 1960s is supposed to be slightly different compared to the normal 1960s. In short, I would rather buy Traillii's stock.

 

[Progisus]

I recently sold my 1960. I also have the FT and the rare Metropolis ft50s. I can say that the 1960 and FT have a similar presentation - analog, lush, with a good amount of air, sparkling yet comfortable highs. The FT feels slightly "thicker" than the 1960. I wouldn’t overpay for the FT and would go for the 1960 if possible.
Metropolis, on the other hand, is on a whole different level, offering a completely opposite, clean, and spacious presentation. A highly successful experiment by PWA utilizing a gold and silver alloy.

I would agree with your description of the 1960 and FT as I have both. 1960 is on my Forte and FT is on my Odin.

 

[drftr]

I think it's the other way around as far as 1960s and 1950s are concerned: 1960s is analog etc.... isn't it?!

Not for me. See below.

I would agree with your description of the 1960 and FT as I have both. 1960 is on my Forte and FT is on my Odin.

Agreed. FT to me pretty much combines the main traits of 1960s and 1950s, and adopting the thicker warmer mids of the latter.

drftr

 

[ONRX]

I allways thought that 1950s is more analytic, 1960s more analog-like warm, and the First times being the thicker, warmer of those three.
I talked to Peter briefly, I asked for which was he thought it was the warmer, thicker and which tamed harshness and he answered me the First times.
About the price, FT could be cheaper for me than 1960s 4 wire and 1950s, so that could be a deal breaker.

 

[mungster]

I allways thought that 1950s is more analytic, 1960s more analog-like warm, and the First times being the thicker, warmer of those three.
I talked to Peter briefly, I asked for which was he thought it was the warmer, thicker and which tamed harshness and he answered me the First times.
About the price, FT could be cheaper for me than 1960s 4 wire and 1950s, so that could be a deal breaker.

You're 100% on point. FT is the most dynamic, thickest, fullest, detailed and most musical of them all. I sold all 1950/60 after getting FT. Some people may like the thinner, analytical, and less musical presentation, Than 1950/60 maybe more suited for them. If peter the owner/creator said same thing there shouldn't be any debate on this.

 

[phiemon]

I allways thought that 1950s is more analytic, 1960s more analog-like warm, and the First times being the thicker, warmer of those three.
I talked to Peter briefly, I asked for which was he thought it was the warmer, thicker and which tamed harshness and he answered me the First times.
About the price, FT could be cheaper for me than 1960s 4 wire and 1950s, so that could be a deal breaker.

This is exactly what I was able to find out through my researches and asking to headfiers.

 

[drftr]

I allways thought that 1950s is more analytic, 1960s more analog-like warm

Not to my ears and those are the only ones I have.

EDIT: I looked up my notes to see whether my memory played tricks on me: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the...n-first-page-all-welcome.957426/post-17187785

drftr

 

[ONRX]

A little off topic, talking about the 1960s, 50s anf FT, but, anybody has compared the PW Deep of universe, Multiverse Mentor's stock cable with any of this? 1960s, 50s and First times are copper, the Deep of Universe is silver plated copper. Any owner of DOU?

 

[phiemon]

A little off topic, talking about the 1960s, 50s anf FT, but, anybody has compared the PW Deep of universe, Multiverse Mentor's stock cable with any of this? 1960s, 50s and First times are copper, the Deep of Universe is silver plated copper. Any owner of DOU?

In the Watercooler you definitely get fundy, the good man who liked you (@drftr) has tried them all. Do a “search” there.

 

[kitsura]

I wonder has anyone tried the new 1960s silver cable? It was released last year and seems quite rare.