Possible purchase Beyerdynamic DT1170 Pro... a few questions

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I am considering the purchase of new Beyerdynamic HT1770 Pro headphones. Very good pricing! I most recently came from Audio Technica 50x to using for a few weeks the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80 ohm. Liked the DT770 Pro a LOT. In considering the DT1770s, there have been very mixed reviews on websites and YouTube. One reviewer on YouTube stated that he found the bass performance to be of a "one note" variety. A few other YouTube reviewers found the DT1770 VERY aggressive and so intense as to make him "feel like poking his eyes out"! The people who like theirs in user reviews seem mostly to love them. Definitely need a closed back headphone. Of course personal listening preferences enters into the picture here but if anyone who has had experience with or owns a DT1770 Pro could offer some comments, it would be GREATLY appreciated!

 

[bcaulf17]

If you like the DT 770 you’ll probably like the DT 1770.

You could also look into the new Drop.com version, which I own and don’t sound very aggressive at all. They sound great.

 

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If you like the DT 770 you’ll probably like the DT 1770.

You could also look into the new Drop.com version, which I own and don’t sound very aggressive at all. They sound great.

Thanks for the reply. I'll check out the Drop.com

 

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bcaulf17...

With my DT 770 pro 80s, I was using from my iphone 8plus, an Audioquest Dragonfly Red, connected to a FiiO A5 amplifier. Being only 32 ohms, is the DT177X Go still able to use the DFR and A5? I really enjoyed their pairing with the 770 Pro.

 

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bcaulf17...

With my DT 770 pro 80s, I was using from my iphone 8plus, an Audioquest Dragonfly Red, connected to a FiiO A5 amplifier. Being only 32 ohms, is the DT177X Go still able to use the DFR and A5? I really enjoyed their pairing with the 770 Pro.

Yes it should still work. I use mine with a Fiio Q1 MK II and they sound nice.

 

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Yes it should still work. I use mine with a Fiio Q1 MK II and they sound nice.

Thanks for the reply. Do you find the build quality of the DT177X to be in line with other Beyerdynamic offerings. Some user reviewers suggest that the bass response of the DT177X is less impacting/deep. Now that you've had yours for a while, are you satisfied with their bass and build quality? Thanks for the replies.

 

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Thanks for the reply. Do you find the build quality of the DT177X to be in line with other Beyerdynamic offerings. Some user reviewers suggest that the bass response of the DT177X is less impacting/deep. Now that you've had yours for a while, are you satisfied with their bass and build quality? Thanks for the replies.

I really like the mid bass. It’s slightly boosted, tight and textured. The sub-bass is not very strong on these that is true. But I’m using the velour pads. It might be better with the sheepskins that come with them. It’s not lacking but it’s definitely not a basshead headphone. The 1770 might actually have stronger bass but I haven’t heard it.

 

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Thanks again for the reply! Decisions, decisions! lol

 

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I really like the mid bass. It’s slightly boosted, tight and textured. The sub-bass is not very strong on these that is true. But I’m using the velour pads. It might be better with the sheepskins that come with them. It’s not lacking but it’s definitely not a basshead headphone. The 1770 might actually have stronger bass but I haven’t heard it.

bcaulf17... could you maybe comment on the below? Still waiting on my 177X to be delivered and am curious/concerned about them being a 32 ohm headphone. It was widely reported that the Beyer DT770 32 ohm had the less impacting bass and sound.

" So, what has all this got to do with Beyerdynamic DT 880 headphones? Simply this: For any given headphone amplifier or source, you want to use the highest impedance DT 880 that will still allow you to reach your desired listening level on the source you are using. Higher impedance headphones will give you a higher damping factor for a given amplifier. Using a lower impedance headphone than necessary means that your damping factor will be lower, and the resulting sound will be less “tight.” " Read more at https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones-page-2#c1o7rKUQWtHAiPjp.99 *The video, included on the page, is really good and speaks to the 32 ohm deficiencies. So, certainly being no expert, or really understanding all of this well, based on the above, it seems it could be argued that by Massdrop going with a 32 ohm headphone for "portability" and easy driving, it has also resulted in the diminished low end/sub bass headphone??

 

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bcaulf17... could you maybe comment on the below? Still waiting on my 177X to be delivered and am curious/concerned about them being a 32 ohm headphone. It was widely reported that the Beyer DT770 32 ohm had the less impacting bass and sound.

" So, what has all this got to do with Beyerdynamic DT 880 headphones? Simply this: For any given headphone amplifier or source, you want to use the highest impedance DT 880 that will still allow you to reach your desired listening level on the source you are using. Higher impedance headphones will give you a higher damping factor for a given amplifier. Using a lower impedance headphone than necessary means that your damping factor will be lower, and the resulting sound will be less “tight.” " Read more at https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones-page-2#c1o7rKUQWtHAiPjp.99 *The video, included on the page, is really good and speaks to the 32 ohm deficiencies. So, certainly being no expert, or really understanding all of this well, based on the above, it seems it could be argued that by Massdrop going with a 32 ohm headphone for "portability" and easy driving, it has also resulted in the diminished low end/sub bass headphone??

From what I understand, lower impedance headphones might sound just slightly less clean, tight or detailed. However, it seems more like a small difference, kind of like differences between amps.

I don’t find the 177X to be diminished in its bass response but it isn’t exactly a basshead headphone and the bass is more boosted in the midbass than sub-bass, but it all sounds tight and not loose. I didn’t expect much change over time but I think the bass has actually gotten stronger since I got them. I tested Lose Yourself To Dance in the first week I had them and the bass was a little on the softer side...I just tried the same song the other night and it sounded much stronger than I remembered. This is with velour pads too. So give them some time if you’re not impressed at first, try both pads if you want, and in the end if you don’t like them you don’t like them. But to me the excel in imaging, soundstage and even if they don’t have the heaviest bass it’s a great quality bass. Great mids, too.

 

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Thanks for yet another reply! Anxious for tomorrow to get here so I can actually take a listen! The "obsessive" speculation that I'm doing is pretty silly. lol

 

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Thanks for yet another reply! Anxious for tomorrow to get here so I can actually take a listen! The "obsessive" speculation that I'm doing is pretty silly. lol

It’s all good. I understand the excitement and also a little bit of reserved anxiety. I was super excited for mine as I had been waiting a while for a closed back upgrade from my H6 (which I’ve liked and enjoyed but never fully fell in love with their sound), but a bit reserved because my last experience with Beyer wasn’t good (actually owned the 770 32 ohm and found them way too unnatural and bright, sharp). I was happy to put these on and hear a warmer, more natural and effortless sound, a much smoother and calmer treble, and these so far have been a worthy upgrade for me. The 770 might sound a little more clear and crisp but at the same time they were hard for me to listen to. I hope you enjoy your pair, let me know what you think!

 

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I'm pretty sure I'll really like them! Your descriptions here and in posts have definitely helped to diminish my concerns. The 32 ohm issue was concerning but apparently not in the 177X. After having read about the lower impedance issues, I was equating the 32 ohm 177X then as being somehow less desirable. The 1770 being a 250 ohm headphone and both the 177X and the 1770 through Amazon being the same price has sure added to the uncertainty and second guessing. Will definitely be on the lookout for the FedEx truck tomorrow! lol Thanks again for your replies!