(PICS ADDED) - My RX7 is in the workshop...

Mar 31, 2007 at 4:48 AM Post #46 of 63
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Originally Posted by Chops /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Funny guy.

Face it, if you can't handle 700hp, then you certainly can't handle 620hp either, chief.

Hmm.. I smeel something, and it's not coming from this end.



What you are saying is not true for all situations. 80hp can make all the difference in the world when it comes to tuning, because you have a lot more room to mess with the powerband. If the mercedes was tuned for maximum power then it is more likely the powerband will be lumpy/laggy and then the power will come on all at once. If they tune it for 620 instead they might be able to make the power come on lower and more gradually so it could be the difference between difficult to control and relatively easy.

sleestack I give you props for having the money/will to buy an expensive mercedes and then tune it to 700hp thats awesome, but don't get arrogant and call the s2000 just an ultratorqueless honda (lol ****y is censored). I hate Hondas/Acuras too but the s2000 is special you will know if you drive it, it is an extremely focused drivers car that can put a big smile on a true car enthusiasts face that your mercedes or any mercedes for that matter could only dream of doing (except the Mclaren SLR of course).
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 4:58 AM Post #47 of 63
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Originally Posted by Chops /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Hmm.. I smeel something, and it's not coming from this end.


You sure about that?
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Mar 31, 2007 at 5:01 AM Post #48 of 63
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Originally Posted by kg21 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
sleestack I give you props for having the money/will to buy an expensive mercedes and then tune it to 700hp thats awesome, but don't get arrogant and call the s2000 just an ultratorqueless honda (lol ****y is censored). I hate Hondas/Acuras too but the s2000 is special you will know if you drive it, it is an extremely focused drivers car that can put a big smile on a true car enthusiasts face that your mercedes or any mercedes for that matter could only dream of doing (except the Mclaren SLR of course).


I have driven the car. It is somewhat torqueless... that's just the truth. Nevertheless, it is a pleasure to drive and fast when you wind it out. Definitely a true sports car. I love all sorts of cars, including the OP's tricked RX7, but I'm not into sports cars as much as I am GTs b/c most of my driving is done on highways. Mercedes are generally boring... even the SLR. The CLK GTR is much more fun for a sports car enthusiast. I'd love to go the Wmcmanus route and get something like an Atom for the track, but I just don't have the time these days.
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 5:39 AM Post #51 of 63
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Originally Posted by uzziah /img/forum/go_quote.gif
LAST PIC KILLED MY BUZZ
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His buzz gives him superior aerodynamics. That's commitment.

Kroolism... drive your car to the National if you are going. Headphones for 2 days? I think some car-fi would make for a nice break.
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 6:39 AM Post #52 of 63
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Originally Posted by Sleestack /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I have driven the car. It is somewhat torqueless... that's just the truth. Nevertheless, it is a pleasure to drive and fast when you wind it out. Definitely a true sports car. I love all sorts of cars, including the OP's tricked RX7, but I'm not into sports cars as much as I am GTs b/c most of my driving is done on highways. Mercedes are generally boring... even the SLR. The CLK GTR is much more fun for a sports car enthusiast. I'd love to go the Wmcmanus route and get something like an Atom for the track, but I just don't have the time these days.


ic i misunderstood you I thought you meant it sucked and had no torque, sorry about that. I feel bad that the s2000 is generally grouped with the other Hondas and therefore ricers. And ricers do indeed like it too, for different reasons than it's driving dynamics
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. I hope someday I can provide feedback on the other cars you mentioned after I drive them if my financial situation allows.

Back on topic, the rx7 definitely looks nice although the wheels are a bit flashy for my tastes. I almost got a black FC rx7 for the equivalent of 450 dollars (he wanted a part I had for his car straight up) seeing pictures/threads like this about them kind of made me wish I had done it although it wasn't in the best condition even for 450.
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 9:09 AM Post #53 of 63
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The rims on your vert looks a bit like the Work Meister S1's in this pic.

What size are your rims, tires, and offsets? What suspension? Nice S5 vert. blah blah blah you know the rest of the usual props.
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Originally Posted by rb67 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
No pics of the engine?
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Rims are only 17", but they look good on a car that small. Any bigger and they are just impractical.

Yea, sorry I don't have any more info or photos of the engine. I haven't got it back from the workshop yet. We're still waiting on the bloody flywheel.

I'll post more when I get the car back.
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 9:18 AM Post #54 of 63
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Originally Posted by arnesto /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Those girls are super hot, are they professional models or just the girl next door?


They are professionals. We just did my car for fun. Here's a high-key shot from the studio (though I think they are a half stop underexposed):

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Mar 31, 2007 at 9:24 AM Post #55 of 63
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Originally Posted by milkpowder /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Attractive girls + nice camera = model photographer! I think we've figured out what KrooLism does for a living
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It's always been a side gig, but I'm doing it full time now.
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Originally Posted by kramer5150 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Nice!!

Post your dyno results when your shop gets it all dialed in.

Those rotary mills are beasts... the ONLY engine banned from 24 hour LeMans series.

Is that a turbo? My younger cousin had that era (1990 I think) but a turbo and that thing was a beast. He went to cal poly~10 years ago and was in an RX7 club. He was friends with Adam Saruwatari (SP?).... or so he said, I dont know about that, but I wouldn't have any reason to doubt him
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He was always tweeking boost with these little bleeder valves and messing with different air fuel mixtures.

he eventually totalled it autocrossing
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... spun out into a barrier of some sort and twisted the frame.



Yea man. Turbo. They never made turbo verts with a manual transmission which is why when i get my car back, she'll be a real rare car indeed.

I'll definitely post some dyno specs. I don't think she'll be much to show off. I would estimate some 100 hp at the wheels? Still, it's all power to weight ratio and for a car which is only 1.1 tonnes, that is quite powerful.

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Originally Posted by Sleestack /img/forum/go_quote.gif
His buzz gives him superior aerodynamics. That's commitment.

Kroolism... drive your car to the National if you are going. Headphones for 2 days? I think some car-fi would make for a nice break.



Bloody oath. I love driving through the hills with the wind running through my head! lol

My car can't be at the national meet. It would involve driving through the Pacific Ocean and I don't think she'll like that very much.
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Mar 31, 2007 at 4:12 PM Post #56 of 63
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Originally Posted by Sleestack /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Yeah, that's it. You obviously know nothing about tuning if you can't understand why 80hp would make a difference on a MB that was built as a daily driver GT. Do you know the specs on the pulley that was being used and how much rotation and boost it was creating? Do you know anything about the difficulty of working with MB ECUs?

Before you make any more dumb assumptions, realize that I have been at Willowsprings raceway and Buttonwillow on numerous occasions driving all sorts of race cars, including the F40 and the inferior F50. I'm in the market for a Maranello and happen to own several MBs because of family tradition.

Say what you must, but you're the one talking about a "friend" with a fast car and using the ultra-torque-less Honda as your avatar.



That's not the case at all, and I apologise for last night. It just got me going when you said the whole "ignorance" part. There's absolutely no need for that at all.

I happen to quite a bit about cars, tuning them with turbos, superchargers, NOS, alcohol, programming and tuning the aftermarket stand-alone engine management, adjusting shift points, tweaking the suspension, etc, etc. Been there and done that.

The reason I said it could be the car setup is that I know for a fact that the smallest tweak in negative camber in the rear, a small adjustment to the front and rear suspension, tire pressure, or moving to a slightly softer rubber compound can make all the difference in a car and its ability to put the power to the ground. Maybe even a slight increase in tire size (if possible with clearances). I don't know what you've done to the suspension, or if it's still bone stock. Who knows, there's a bunch of people out there that ONLY do engine mods and never touch the suspension. Then they wonder why they're getting nowhere fast.

And the reason I said it could be the driver is because I have no clue about your background and/or driving skills. At least I didn't until one of your last posts. Again, some people build up one hell of a car (or have one built for them) and have no earthly clue as to how to handle the darn thing. Heck, some people shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel of a Yugo!

Just because someone is fortunate enough to be able to afford really nice cars with really nice modifications doesn't mean they know about cars. There's a guy in town here that I know quite well that's a multi-millionaire, has tons of cars (MB SLK, Bentley, Lambo, Ferrari, Astin Martin just to name a few) and he has no idea of the specs of those cars, or their capabilities. He just has them because he likes their looks. And as far as I know, they are all automatics! Go figure...

That's all I was saying in my original post. If you had rattled off some extra features of your modded MB and mentioned your driver skills, then I would have suggested or said other things. And like I said before, the whole "ignorance" thing just wasn't necessary at all, and now the "more dumb assumptions".

So I hope with that said, the dust will settle between us and we can go on with more pleasant conversations.
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 5:35 PM Post #58 of 63
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Originally Posted by Chops /img/forum/go_quote.gif
That's not the case at all, and I apologies for last night. It just got me going when you said the whole "ignorance" part. There's absolutely no need for that at all.

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The reason I said it could be the car setup is that I know for a fact that the smallest tweak in negative camber in the rear, a small adjustment to the front and rear suspension, tire pressure, or moving to a slightly softer rubber compound can make all the difference in a car and its ability to put the power to the ground. Maybe even a slight increase in tire size (if possible with clearances). I don't know what you've done to the suspension, or if it's still bone stock. Who knows, there's a bunch of people out there that ONLY do engine mods and never touch the suspension. Then they wonder why they're getting nowhere fast.

And the reason I said it could be the driver is because I have no clue about your background and/or driving skills. At least I didn't until one of your last posts. Again, some people build up one hell of a car (or have one built for them) and have no earthly clue as to how to handle the darn thing. Heck, some people shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel of a Yugo!

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That's all I was saying in my original post. If you had rattled off some extra features of your modded MB and mentioned your driver skills, then I would have suggested or said other things. And like I said before, the whole "ignorance" thing just wasn't necessary at all, and now the "more dumb assumptions".

So I hope with that said, the dust will settle between us and we can go on with more pleasant conversations.



Fair enough. Perhaps I read too much into your first post, but it didn't sound particularly friendly to me...

"Alright, so the car has 700hp at the moment. How is ONLY knocking off 80hp going to make any difference for drivability? I don't think the hp is the problem, but maybe how the car is setup, or it's the one behind the wheel not being able to control that power."

Let's not talk about the necessity of my "dumb assumptions" comment after your second post. In any case, not a big deal. Let's not derail the thread further. My apologies for misunderstanding your first post and turning the conversation into something unpleasant.

The tuning of my car has been done by experts. My tuners race in a few SCCA circuits and have entered cars in ALMS. Their company tunes MBs, BMWs and Ferraris and they are Ferrari race instructors. I asked them to turn a W208 CLK into a great GT that I could use to shoot around the local highways and occasionally take to Willowsprings for high speed track fun. I just liked the German muscle car look of the W208. That was 3 years ago. They took my car and tuned everything from the ground up, except my favorite BBS LMs. Many parts were custom designed and manufactured and handling, braking, etc. were considered just as important as the engine. The last few months have been spent dialing the car in. I considered being as cool as Krool and going manual on the tranny, but it just wasn't what I wanted in a GT highway cruiser. They did make significant changes to the slushbox to improve shift times. A few shots and a picture from before this project began:

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Mar 31, 2007 at 5:58 PM Post #59 of 63
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Originally Posted by KrooLism /img/forum/go_quote.gif
My car can't be at the national meet. It would involve driving through the
Pacific Ocean and I don't think she'll like that very much.
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Send it to Jesse James and he will make her a boat car. I have always liked RX7s. The head engineer on my car built a famous tuner RX7 using the last generation RX7. It was just sick in both power and handling.
 
Mar 31, 2007 at 11:56 PM Post #60 of 63
Yes, and an RX-7 was 3rd in a recent Tsukuba time attack race, against heavily tuned Skylines and Evolutions. Interestingly, it was the only RWD car in the top ranks.

For more info on the RX-7, try RX-7: Mazda's Rotary Engine Sports Car by Brian Long, published by Veloce Publishing. It's a truly fantastic read with great pictures, if a bit pricey.

Thanks for throwing us dawgs a bone.
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