Peculiar “phase problem” with CEC HD 53 R headphone amp
Jan 23, 2007 at 10:25 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 6

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Dear Colleagues,

I need the help of an electronics expert.

I own a CEC HD 53 R headphone amp, which has two independent amplification sections, each with plugs and volume control (but common inputs)
Due to a slight hearing imbalance, I would like to operate this amp so that the two amp section each supply the left or right channel respectively and hence I can use it to adjust the balance.

I prepared a suitable Y-connector with the appropriate plugs and common socket (according to my checks, it should be OK)

Actually, the whole device works [size=x-small]nearly[/size] as intended---
EXCEPT: The two channels are “out of phase” (as you would experience with reversed speaker cables)
This is quite puzzling, as I would expect that both amp sections are identical, with a common earth and equal L + R output polarity ?
rolleyes.gif

Any idea, why this is apparently NOT the case ?

I checked both the chinch, as well as the XLR inputs, using a test CD that has “In phase” and “out-of-phase” test signals.

Thanks for your suggestion of how I could fix this problem – if at all--!!

Best regards

Urs
 
Jan 23, 2007 at 11:26 AM Post #2 of 6
it's pretty odd they chose to use a opposite polarity on the sections, but since your amp has xlr inputs, a common xlr phase-inverter adapter on one input should do the trick.
 
Jan 23, 2007 at 12:36 PM Post #3 of 6
Thanks Dorder,

interessting approach !
I'll try that, to fix the problem on the input side

Urs
 
Jan 23, 2007 at 12:41 PM Post #4 of 6
Quote:

Originally Posted by urs /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Dear Colleagues,

I need the help of an electronics expert.

I own a CEC HD 53 R headphone amp, which has two independent amplification sections, each with plugs and volume control (but common inputs)
Due to a slight hearing imbalance, I would like to operate this amp so that the two amp section each supply the left or right channel respectively and hence I can use it to adjust the balance.

I prepared a suitable Y-connector with the appropriate plugs and common socket (according to my checks, it should be OK)

Actually, the whole device works [size=x-small]nearly[/size] as intended---
EXCEPT: The two channels are “out of phase” (as you would experience with reversed speaker cables)
This is quite puzzling, as I would expect that both amp sections are identical, with a common earth and equal L + R output polarity ?
rolleyes.gif

Any idea, why this is apparently NOT the case ?

I checked both the chinch, as well as the XLR inputs, using a test CD that has “In phase” and “out-of-phase” test signals.

Thanks for your suggestion of how I could fix this problem – if at all--!!

Best regards

Urs



Just reverse the polarity at input or output, to see if this solve your problem first, I do not think is an out of phase issue, it is very unlikely they use different phase in both channels, have you checked your cables, and your headphones??? There could be a problem in any other place as well...
 
Jan 23, 2007 at 3:01 PM Post #5 of 6
To "reverse phases", what I'm worried about is, that I've got to connect "earth" of one amp output to "positive signal " of the other
confused.gif

(of course, it would be easier, if my HP had balanced wiring - but alas - it's standard 3-string cable, with common earth)

Urs
 
Jan 23, 2007 at 3:18 PM Post #6 of 6
Quote:

Originally Posted by urs /img/forum/go_quote.gif
To "reverse phases", what I'm worried about is, that I've got to connect "earth" of one amp output to "positive signal " of the other
confused.gif

(of course, it would be easier, if my HP had balanced wiring - but alas - it's standard 3-string cable, with common earth)

Urs



Reverse the polarity in the input then, it will be easier...
 

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