[mark2410]

Ortofon e-Q8 Review

 

Thanks to Musica Acoustics for the loaner.

 

TLDR?  Try here http://www.head-fi.org/t/789802/ortofon-e-q8-review-by-mark2410#post_12126733

 

 

 

First Impressions:  Oooo pretty box.  Personally the silvered is a little too much but my word is it visually attention grabbing.  Then the inner box, I get the impression it should have jewellery in it.  Actually it does.  The e-Q8’s are clearly meant to be as much looked at as they are listened to.  Holy crap look at the things, they do look lovely.  Shinny enough to be attention stealing but silver so it has that air of monochromatic simplicity.  I have always loved a bare metal finish, granted I prefer a brushed finish but still.   They are lookers.  Even that cable, with a woven cover, it feels sumptuous to the touch.  Every single aspect about the e-Q8 says, I am a premium quality object.

 

In the ears and they remind me of the e-Q7 from back in the day.  Middy, somewhat lovely, gently smooth.  Still it feels like there a hint of something it’s holding back.  Also, hmm lows they seem to sweep away rather soon. 

 

 

 

Source: FiiO E7/E9 combo, Hisoundaudio Studio V 3^rd Anv., HiFiMAN HM-650, 1G Ipod Shuffle, Nexus 5 and Graham Slee Solo Ultra Linear.

 

 

 

Lows:  My first impressions hold true.  Acoustically where I’m mentally leaping to is to the SE420’s.  These are ever so polite.  For many musical stylings that’s just fine.  I find that soft and gentle lows the likes of which you’d find in Nora Jones’s tracks or in soft forms of Jazz.  Slow classical pieces too are extremely amenable to the bass here.  Susan Wong sounds so achingly good.  Soft, drawn out, a sense of every note languidly yet lightly lingering on the ear.  The bass is just the softest of companions.  Its depth is rather good for a BA but it’s just soooooooooooo polite.  It’s actually too polite.  I find I’m having to force myself to play anything fast or aggressive.  I don’t want to.  It’s like trying to take a Bentley round a race track, it doesn’t matter how well it may or may not perform, it just feels inappropriate.  I just can’t do it.  No seriously, I can’t.  Every time I went out of my way to pull up something fast and punchy, every time I ended up drifting back to slow and welcoming stuff.

 

Depth is nice for a BA, smoothly and gently declining away.  It is rather full and broad sounding for a BA too, much more dynamic like in that regard.  However it’s just so polite and well behaved it can’t convince me that it can roar.  It’s never dominant even where the bass ought to and it never punches with any hint of violence.  It’s very pleasant bass but for much music it’s just too darn polite.

 

 

 

Mids:  Here is where they shine.  The 7 before them did too and from what I’ve read, so to do the 5.  I’m a firm believer that most of what you want in music in in the mid-range, most obviously it’s where human vocals live.  Its where are ears are most finely tuned and it’s what our brains are configured to pay attention to.  It’s the bit you need to get right in my opinion, of course I’m a bit of a “mid-head” but hey.  The 8 is sumptuously elegant.  It’s so effortless in its presentation, so relaxed and serene.  Slapping on some “The Beautiful South” and the vocals are just wonderful.  So relaxed and melodic, they just ebb and flow with not the faintest hint of effort.  They are ever so lovely on the ear.

 

However, they do have a bit of an upper mid peak so at times things can become a little over energetic.  Once or twice it got very close to a sibilant ear stabbing.  These on the whole are very much focused on the mids, they are energy abundant in the vocals and while they haven’t the cleanest guitar twangs they have soooooo much energy.  Feed them crappy vocals that scream and you won’t have a good time with them.

 

 

 

Highs:  Once you get away from the mid / transition zone your fine.  Their more soft, slightly diffuse nature starts to come back out and you get a more pleasing picture.  Nicely detailed but very subtle about it, think a 1080p image that’s been filmed with a slight soft focus filter.  Lots detail but the finest imperfections are softly diffused to give you a more pleasing picture.  Treble detail is in there, however it’s not edged.  It isn’t cleanly demarcated so you have to pay attention.  It’s a very easy on the ear sound that still retains a good level of treble.  It does trail away at the upper end but its not really what it called subdued.  The treble quantity level is pretty much in line with the bass.

 

They also share a similar flavour to the bass in that they are highly competent but a little restrained, reticent and hesitant to dazzle.  They just won’t explode in a shower of crystal shards no matter what I did with them.  They are nice, polite, capable, accurate and detailed.  Still I find them being a little bland.

 

N.B. The 8’s are wildly sensitive so if you feed them a signal that has hiss, it will hiss like a bag of snakes and throw in every pop and crackle you can imagine too.

 

 

 

Soundstage:  Nice, for a BA its huge sounding.  I don’t see any talk on the box of it being one of their so called “moving armatures” but I’d bet that’s what inside.  It’s a halfway between dynamic and BA so it’s not surprising it sounds far larger than normal BA things are.  It’s a full and encompassing sound scape.  It doesn’t feel like its audio being injected into your brain, its more full, more natural feeling.  It’s all highly integrated but instrument separation is so so.

 

 

 

Comfort:  Absolutely fine.  However they do have a wide bore tip so you may not want to try and wear too deeply.

 

 

 

Fit:  They do look a little bit frakenbolts but wearing up and over my ears they just fine.  Down they stick out a bit much and the angle meant they forever feeling pulled upon by the cable.  So wear up and problem solved.

 

 

 

Aesthetics:  They are beautiful to behold.  Though they make me want to fish out the set of white Sony Hybrid tips a have somewhere.  Pretty pretty stuff.

 

 

 

Microphonics:  I don’t think I had them on worn down long enough to notice.  Up I can’t say I noticed anything either.

 

 

 

Amped/Unamped:  Oh there would seem to be much debate over this.  The consensus would seem to be that they require something that can dish out power at stupidly low impedance levels.  Only then will they be their best.  I have found them to be somewhat of a pain in this regard.  They are weirdly variable with minimal predictability as to what will drive them well and what will make them a bit nasally.  So do they need power?  The simple is answer is yes, boat loads, sorta, well maybe or maybe not.  There seemed to be little obvious outward reasoning to their paring.

 

Oh and if you think the solution is to add an Ety impedance adapter, think again.  I tried and it made them extremely nasally sounding.

 

 

 

Isolation:  They being armatures are rather sealed and thus they isolate well.  Easily enough for most typical use cases.  For dealing with traffic, the general public etc etc are all good.  Probably good enough for the Tube or flights too.  Oh and my standard warning,  please do look where you’re going least you become a roadkill statistic for you will not hear traffic using these.

 

 

 

Build Quality:  Everything about these say “premium” and that includes their build quality.  Containing things such a pure silver driver coil you wouldn’t really expect anything less would you.  The look premium and the certainly feel premium.

 

 

 

Accessories:  The standard really, a bunch of tips and cleaning tool. There is a little case thingy but I’m not wild about it.  For one it’s twice the size it needs to be.  Aside from a more practical case though there isn’t anything more I’d particularly want.

 

 

 

Value:  Are these “good value?”  Well, no.  Neither Japan nor Denmark are places known for spitting out “value” products.  They both are associated with precision, quality, objects of beauty that should be treasured as little pieces of technological art.  None of these ideas feed into the notion of what we would term “value.”  Coming in at US$320 they are not cheap objects but they are lovely, just be aware same of that fees is going to their looks and materials (silver) used in their construction.

 

N.B. Musica Acoustics seem to be selling there considerably more cheaply than the US$425 I found elsewhere.

 

 

 

Conclusion:  These are curious little things.  I find myself pleasantly enjoying them, they are a rather pleasantly lovely earphone to listen to.  That is their blessing and their curse.  Blessing in that they are so pleasant to listen to.  I could happily listen away for hours and have no issues or complaints.  However after listening for hours I can’t say I ever heard anything from them and thought “Wow!!!” these are amazing.  They aren’t amazing, they are pleasantly lovely.  Is it a curse to be thought casually beautiful? It just can’t capture my attention.

 

 

 

They are good, it’s just so not thrilling or exciting.  Mildly beautiful, it may be but I can’t help feeling they’re holding back.  I don’t know if that’s because I haven’t found the right pairing for it or its just it’s serene, chilled out nature.  It is very nice in every way but there is always a but.  I like the e-Q8 it’s a really lovely thing but I just can’t love it or indeed have any strong feelings about it.

 

 

 

So should you buy it?  Well flat out you can get better sound but, they do offer you a beautiful package.  They look exceedingly good and they feel quite wonderful.  That they point out the driver coil is pure silver, you are getting a top quality product.  Everything about it says quality in every conceivable form.  Still it’s just not exciting or attention grabbing and I need a little hint of that, I need to feel something toward it and I don’t.  Everything here is competently capable and pleasantly lovely. 

 

[mark2410]

Ortofon e-Q8 Quick Review

 

Thanks to Musica Acoustics for the loaner.

 

Brief:  The Danish/Japanese Premium Earphone.

 

Price US$320 currently.

 

Specifications:  Speaker type: Balanced Armature - Pure Silver Coil Drum, Frequency response:10～20,000Hz, Sensitivity: 20mW, Impedance: 12Ω, Weight: 11.5g, Cable: 1.2m, straight 3.5mm plug (Ф3.5mm)

 

Accessories: 3 pairs of silicone ear tips (S/M/L), 1 pair of Comply foam tips, 4 replacement filters, 2 replacement filter rings, filter replacement tool.

 

Build Quality:  Everything you’d expect from something still made in Japan.

 

Isolation:  Slightly on the lesser side for a BA but that still blows away pretty much every dynamic.  You could happily use this out and about and even for Tube commutes or flights.  However do remember that means you won’t hear traffic, so do look where you are going.

 

Comfort/Fit:  They are rather long so they do stick out a bit.  Given their wide bore too means you can’t shove them in deep either.  However so long as you opt to wear them up then your fine.  Worn down the angle makes them feel pulled at constantly, so I’d say don’t wear them down.

 

Aesthetics:  There is no way around the fact these are lookers.  Granted that’s becoming increasingly a common trait but still, these can take a great photo.  I mean I can’t envisage anyone looking at these and not liking them.

 

Sound:  Rather lovely.  Rather lovely, somewhat beautiful, passably wonderful etc etc.  I condemn thee with faint praise.  The e-Q8 is a very lovely sounding IEM but I find it’s just a too polite and tame.  It’s not like I demand excitement but these just feel out of place trying to thump out a baseline or dealing with bouncy pop.  It’s never an unpleasant thing to listen to but it just never managed to capture my attention no matter how I tried to make it happen.  They are serenely pleasant at all times.  They can be a little over energetic in the upper mids at times, veering towards a little shouty but that’s as close to offensive they ever managed.  The bass is nice but so polite, restrained, clean of course and with good depth for a BA but…. it refused to ever dominate.  Even at times where I pushed the issue it just wouldn’t do it.  The mids you see, they are where the e-Q8 like to be and they do vocals very well, maybe a little polite and flavourless but they are highly detailed.  They also are highly accurate.  Then the highs, like the bass they are pretty well extended for a BA, still they have a certain politeness to them.  They can’t explode in a shower of broken glass even when you push them do so.  They will have a go but it always lacks something in being convincing. 

 

It’s a most pleasantly lovely earphone to relax to, thrilling beast it is not.

 

Value:  Musica Acoustica seems to be highly under cutting others at having them for US$320, that seems a more reasonable price, their normal US$400 to me is too much.  I know they have a pure silver driver coil, so super premium materials but its acoustic abilities are just too polite for me.  It’s beautiful yes but I just couldn’t find the love for it.

 

Pro’s:  Beautiful looking.  Beautiful sounding.  Super premium materials.

 

Con’s:  Achingly polite.  Never convincingly aggressive or wild.

 

[seanwee]

 

 

Specifications:  Speaker type: Balanced Armature - Pure Silver Coil Drum, Frequency response:10～20,000Hz, Sensitivity: 20mW, Impedance: 12Ω, Weight: 11.5g, Cable: 1.2m, straight 3.5mm plug (Ф3.5mm)

 

Why is the sensitivity so low? Typo?

 

[shigzeo]

Unless things have changed, the HiSound Studio hasn't the current to power these earphones, which is a major reason its bass may have been too polite. Driven by sources that can't sustain low notes at high current levels, the e-Q8 has NO bass at all. It was horrible out of two sources I used and wonderful out of a source with good current to low ohm loads.

 

[audionewbi]

Chord mojo owners should make it priority to listen to this, they pairing is 10/10 for me.

 

[shigzeo]

Chord mojo owners should make it priority to listen to this, they pairing is 10/10 for me.

Mojo has a perfect output. There's nothing like it. 

 

[nino9]

Chord mojo owners should make it priority to listen to this, they pairing is 10/10 for me.

 
Two days ago I listened two or three songs from Mojo using John Franks' iPhone, but using Grado GR10 (same driver manufacturer of eQ-8). John used Dita Truth, as Mojo has two headphone outputs. Really good sonic experience. 

 

[mark2410]

  Why is the sensitivity so low? Typo?

no idea, i literally copy pasted the specs so if it is a typo, its not my typo.
 
 

  Unless things have changed, the HiSound Studio hasn't the current to power these earphones, which is a major reason its bass may have been too polite. Driven by sources that can't sustain low notes at high current levels, the e-Q8 has NO bass at all. It was horrible out of two sources I used and wonderful out of a source with good current to low ohm loads.

 
i can get that but and the HM-650, and the 1G shuffle and the E9 and the Solo Ultra.  i accept its possible but after running through pretty much what ive got in the end i had to go with how i was hearing them.  plus its not like i hated them as was, they were just very polite about everything.

 

[seanwee]

  no idea, i literally copy pasted the specs so if it is a typo, its not my typo.

LOL it does say that on their site .http://www.musicaacoustics.com/#!product/prd1/2239121371/ortofon-e-q8
Shame on them for not properly checking the specs.
 
Anyways,i think they were trying to put 120dB/mW . Thats more realistic

 

[shigzeo]

  no idea, i literally copy pasted the specs so if it is a typo, its not my typo.
 
 
 
i can get that but and the HM-650, and the 1G shuffle and the E9 and the Solo Ultra.  i accept its possible but after running through pretty much what ive got in the end i had to go with how i was hearing them.  plus its not like i hated them as was, they were just very polite about everything.

Re: typos, it's pretty damn hard to nail ortofon spec as they have one of the worst web presences out there. Good work nonetheless. 

 

[mark2410]

  LOL it does say that on their site .http://www.musicaacoustics.com/#!product/prd1/2239121371/ortofon-e-q8
Shame on them for not properly checking the specs.
 
Anyways,i think they were trying to put 120dB/mW . Thats more realistic

 
well i wouldnt state that it must be Musica's mistake, Ortofon seem to hate the internet and i couldnt find their official site at all mention anything existing other than the e-Q5.

 
Re: typos, it's pretty damn hard to nail ortofon spec as they have one of the worst web presences out there. Good work nonetheless. 

yeah what is with that, i mean the have all their cartridge head stuff up online but earphones seem to hardly exist.  crazy really.

 

[puga74]

Chord mojo owners should make it priority to listen to this, they pairing is 10/10 for me.

 
I have the same setup, however after sometime I observed that the e-q8 hisses on the chord mojo when there is no song playing. Can you check if this is the same to you?