Optimal Mp3 Bitrate
Jun 24, 2006 at 5:24 AM Post #16 of 49
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Originally Posted by iSleipnir
Honestly I only use mp3's for portable use and between 192-256 in a portable environment I can't tel the difference. There's just too much outside noise and distractions for me to notice or care. In my home though, it's another story.


I concur. I use mp3s on the go and .flac at home on my K 701s.
 
Jun 24, 2006 at 6:03 AM Post #17 of 49
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For home use though why not just rip to Lossless or WAV? I record to WAV for all my music at home, hd space is really cheap right now.


Hard drive space is cheap, but that doesn't mean you need to waste it. CPU power is cheap, meaning it takes only a little bit of extra effort to get a file nearly 50% the size, and 100% of the quality of the original WAV.
 
Jun 24, 2006 at 12:09 PM Post #18 of 49
As lossy format, I use for

CDs --> MP3 (CBR) 192kbps --> 320kbps (depending on which type source and end use)[size=xx-small] [size < 8MB - < 12MB)][/size]

Vinyls --> WMA (Pro) 24-bit/96kHz/256-440kbps (CBR) [size=xx-small][size < 10MB - < 17MB][/size] or WMA (Pro) Quality 98 24-bit/96kHz (VBR) [size=xx-small][size < 11MB][/size] for ripping, and same as for CDs (for compatibility reasons when needed).

Size test file used for comparison were a 24-bit/96 kHz wave file for WMA (~172MB) and 16-bit/44.1 kHz wave file for MP3 (~53MB). Both files gives ~same sizes for MP3.

jiitee
 
Jun 24, 2006 at 2:25 PM Post #19 of 49
-V 2 is transparent for me.
At levels below this I am sometimes able to pick the lossy one in an ABX test.
 
Jun 24, 2006 at 2:52 PM Post #20 of 49
On my PC, I have all of my albums ripped at 192KBPS with Lame 3.93. On my new Zen Sleek Photo, I am ripping everything at 320KBPS with Lame 3.93. I thought the player would support WMA Lossless, but it doesn't. 320 sounds very good with my setup though, so I am happy.
 
Jun 24, 2006 at 3:25 PM Post #21 of 49
I use FLAC for home, and 192kbps LAME MP3's for on the move. 128kbps would probably suffice on my portable, but I go for 192kbps just for peace of mind. It takes ages to convert all my music into MP3's from FLACs so peace of mind is good.
 
Jun 26, 2006 at 6:52 PM Post #23 of 49
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Originally Posted by Xyrium
Just in case....


...then I would recommend lossless for you. MP3 320CBR files are much larger but sound no different from a good VBR bitrate (0, 1 or 2).
 
Jun 26, 2006 at 7:38 PM Post #24 of 49
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Originally Posted by lordgibbness
...then I would recommend lossless for you. MP3 320CBR files are much larger but sound no different from a good VBR bitrate (0, 1 or 2).


It's interesting that you mention this. as I downloaded a FLAC encoder last night. I plan to try it out tonight or tomorrow, compare the output quality and size to my Lame encoded stuff, and possibly move to that format for archiving.
 
Jun 28, 2006 at 9:55 PM Post #25 of 49
Using EAC, a Flac encoded file was 22MB, while the 320kbps Lame MP3 was only 8MB. So, I guess I'll continue to use Lame since at age 36, my hearing is only being reduced to a frequency range of 500Hz-15kHz probably, with a sensitivity of about -65dB.
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Jun 28, 2006 at 10:33 PM Post #26 of 49
When I rip music from my own CDs, I use EAC + Lame with "V 0 --vbr-new" compression. I really can't tell any difference between it and the original CD. 192kbps also sounds good to me, and the majority of my "acquired" music comes in this bitrate.
 
Jun 29, 2006 at 7:41 PM Post #27 of 49
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Originally Posted by Xyrium
Using EAC, a Flac encoded file was 22MB, while the 320kbps Lame MP3 was only 8MB. So, I guess I'll continue to use Lame since at age 36, my hearing is only being reduced to a frequency range of 500Hz-15kHz probably, with a sensitivity of about -65dB.
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The best top-of-the-range LAME setting I would suggest is "-V 0 --vbr-new" as quality wise it is on a par with CBR320, but will save you a reasonable amount of space.
 
Jun 29, 2006 at 9:40 PM Post #29 of 49
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is there any way to determine what codec and/or what presets a certain MP3 was ripped using?


That information will sometimes be the ID3 tag, but I rarely see it.
 

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