Oppo HA-1, is a tiny bit of ~60 Hz hum normal?
Jun 21, 2014 at 12:09 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 7

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Hi,
 
I have an Oppo HA-1 and am approaching the end of the 30 day return
policy.  I'm happy with the product but do hear a very low amplitude hum
which seems to be around 60 Hz.
 
It is a very low amplitude.  So much so that the noise floor of any music
file I've played is above the hum.  Is it normal for a class A amplifier to
exhibit just a little bit of power supply hum or do I have a problem? 
 
Thanks
 
Jun 21, 2014 at 6:17 PM Post #3 of 7

  Hi,
 
I have an Oppo HA-1 and am approaching the end of the 30 day return
policy.  I'm happy with the product but do hear a very low amplitude hum
which seems to be around 60 Hz.
 
It is a very low amplitude.  So much so that the noise floor of any music
file I've played is above the hum.  Is it normal for a class A amplifier to
exhibit just a little bit of power supply hum or do I have a problem? 
 
Thanks

The HA-1 is dead quiet, 
usually hum is caused by a "ground Loop" where in something is not properly grounded with regards to everything else in the "system."    Without knowing your setup its hard to give opinion.  Is this with normal volume or high volume mode?
 
Jun 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM Post #4 of 7
Hello again,
 
The hum is present even when the system consists solely of the HA-1,
a headphone plugged into the 1/4 inch jack, and the 120V AC power
cord plugged into a power source.  I did try various power receptacles
throughout the house and turning off appliances, lights, ceiling fans,
air conditioners, etc.  Also tried various power conditioning strips. 
Some which are audiophile specific.  Though, unfortunately, none
are designed to alleviate any DC bias that might be present in the
AC source. 
 
With no input cables connected, switching through the various input
sources, both analog and digital, all produce identically the same hum. 
The level of the hum does not depend on the input source, the volume
setting, or the normal/high gain setting.  Only Mute and power down
stops the hum.  In fact, Mute is the perfect way to AB it.
 
Again, it is very low level.  Even the noise floor of most recordings
are  decibels above, thus rendering it transparent.  But with the rarest
of exceptions, I can only hear it when the music stops (or no source
at all when testing).  Even silent passages within a playback of a
music file produce noise that masks the hum.  That last sentence is
not always true, just generally true.  There are some silent passages
in which I can hear the hum, though rare and barely perceptible.
 
My problem is that I'm within only a couple of days of the 30 day
return policy ending.  Perhaps statements like the following are
misleading and setting the wrong expectation in my mind.  The
following is from a review at hometheaterhifi.com. 
 
"I could only detect absolute silence, when music was not playing
(in between music tracks) with the HA-1."
 
There are only three logical possibilities.  1) The reviewer is
exaggerating.  2) The reviewer has lost some of his auditory
acuity.  3) I have a bad HA-1 and need to return it quickly. 
 
What I was hoping with this thread was to have a few HA-1
owners provide their first hand observations.  I want to know
if my HA-1 is bad or normal.  If normal, I can happily live with it. 
 
Perhaps shielding and isolating class A amplifiers, in particular,
is difficult.  I'm pretty certain that what I'm hearing is 60 Hz
EMI leaking into one or more stages of the amplifier section. 
The question is really about how much leakage is within the
design and manufacturing tolerance. 
 
Thanks
 
Jun 22, 2014 at 4:00 PM Post #5 of 7
I've been playing with Audacity and think I've nailed the sound signature. 
It is the superposition of predominately a 60 Hz sine wave plus odd 
ordered harmonics of that same 60 Hz base tone added (180, 300 and
420 Hz sine waves).  The amplitudes of the added odd order harmonics
follows one side of a bell curve, diminishing rapidly from the amplitude
of the 60 Hz sine wave.  I also threw in just a dash of Brownian noise. 
Bang on. 
 
Jul 9, 2014 at 2:06 AM Post #6 of 7
Hi,
 
Just following up to close off this thread.  A few weeks ago I contacted Oppo
support.  They were very helpful and assured me that they would help remedy,
whether refund or service. 
 
One of the very first things they asked was the impedance and sensitivity of the
headphones that I was using.  I didn't know but searched for the specifications of
my Pioneer SE-305's.  What I found is a 4 to 16 Ohm impedance with sensitivities
ranging somewhere between 106 to 112 dB/mV. 
 
I ordered a HiFiMan HE-560 with Blue Dragon balanced cable from Moon Audio. 
It came in today and I'm happy to report that the HA-1 with HE-560 is dead silent
when not playing music.  Listening to a lossless binaural recording of a Cowboy
Junkies performance at present and my uneducated ears are most impressed. 
 
I think that the ultra high sensitivity of my old SE-305's and perhaps their low non-
conformant ~8 Ohm impedance brought the noise floor of the HA-1 up such that it
was on the edge of noticeability.  The substantially lower sensitivity of the HE-560
drops the noise floor way below my ability to detect, even with  the HA-1 gain
moved from "normal" to "high". 
 
I'm very happy with the combo and am impressed by both the integrity and
diagnostic acumen of the Oppo support team.  Thank you to both Oppo and the
good folks of Head-Fi. 
 
Sincerely
Feathers
 

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