Okay, I just can't help myself. I've calmed down and it looks like we can actually have a positive discussion here, so I will at least continue posting here because I feel that this discussion can benefit Head Fi, which was my intention throughout all of this. Firstly, I'll say this: when I made that video I was very upset, and I probably could have explained my points better than I did. I've delisted the video because it's run its course and won't add anything more to the discussion. I'm glad to see that this thread has not been locked like I was originally told it would be simply from the mention of crowdfunding. I think that as billybob_jcv pointed out, a discussion about bias in the audio industry is an interesting topic at least worth discussing. So putting aside all the drama, I'm glad that this is happening.
I do not think that the decision to moderate my comments about crowdfunding were part of some larger conspiracy on the part of the moderators to protect the sponsors. In all these discussion about bias, as I stated in the original post, I DO NOT think that there is any intentional bias on the part of ANY reviewer or moderator.
I was upset by the moderation decisions because the decisions was based on curbing a direct solicitation for crowdfunding. I did not feel I was making that direct solicitation, and I offered repeatedly to edit the post so that it was clearly NOT a direct solicitation. I thought to block a general discussion about crowdfunding and how it could work for reviewers was unreasonable, because many other crowdfunding campaigns DO get talked about on Head Fi, and I was trying to propose it as an alternative model which we don't even know the feasibility of.
So I interpreted the decision as having two possible rationales. The first rationale being that I was being a scammer or a spammer myself, which I find a little depressing because I feel like I have contributed enough here that that is demonstrably not true. On that basis I would not be able to continue posting here anyway, since if I write a review I would have to disclose that I obtained it through crowdfunding, and if mentioning crowdfunding in any way is somehow a direct solicitation then obviously I could not continue.
The second rationale is simply that the moderators did not see the merit of my proposal, and since they didn't see any merit at all they thought it simply wasn't worth discussing given the potential (but unsubstantiated) prospect of spam and scammers. But while I acknowledge Jude has a right to moderate in any way he likes, to me I feel this is an overreach because that is an arbitrary decision to curtail discussion in the name of some bogeyman.
All this aside.
On the point of bias, I have said again and again, the bias I am talking about is not the kind of bias where reviewers are consciously doing dodgy deals with manufacturers.
The bias I am talking about is a systemic bias. It's a question of whether the system, over time, produces effects which lead to overall MORE positive reviews, and whether or not this pollutes the shared pool of information available for consumers.
The only person who seems to really grasp what I am trying to say here is Norway, so I'll repeat some of his words:
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Yes, each reviewer brings his own biases, but what a_recording brings up is a systemic bias. It is structural by nature and probably works in most if not all professional reviews. Individual biases come in different variations, whereas this structural bias is likely to be extremely strong and will probably dominate the review more so than individual biases. As a reader you can also eliminate a person's individual biases by (1) noting them and interpret their content in that light or (2) stop reading their content.
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Also, there is the bias of social bonds. I don't know about you gatekeepers, such as Jude, Tyll, Hifiguy, ... But I have the impression that you guys have personal relationships with some of the manufacturers and retailers (maybe strictly professional, but on an ongoing basis). It's probably unavoidable in a niche of a niche, but then again, it introduces biases. I think most people who aren't psychopaths would find it hard to say something that might work against a good (professional or personal) social relationship.
The essence of what a_recording tries to do, is to eliminate this coupling with reviewer, manufacturer and retailer, because it does create biases.
The principles I gather are the right to discuss potential structural (unconscious and conscious) biases and how they might color the perception of professional reviewers with the current review model on this platform, as this is the biggest community and where the elimination of such biases might be to the best of the community at large. By not allowing for such discussions the intention can not be to do what is best for the community.
I agree with this. Just because we have a lot of personal biases, does not mean we should not talk about or try to avoid the biases introduced under status quo. We should work to eliminate the most dominating ones, and I agree with a_recording that the structural biases are the most dominating of all, because it affects everyone who operates within the current model, which is pretty much every professional audio reviewer out there.
The most valid comparison is Pharmaceutical companies. It has been demonstrated in studies that Pharamceutical companies giving out little pens and notepads and trinkets and taking Doctor's out to dinner and having meetings etc. etc., have
a subconscious effect on the prescribing habits of Doctors. This is not an intentional bias that you can control for. I'll repeat this quote again:
Dana coauthored a 2003 article in JAMA outlining the social science research that indicates that the former drug representatives and other critics are missing the point. The problem is not unethical behavior but rather an unconscious, self-serving bias that distorts the judgments of doctors and anybody else who is offered a gift, he said. Experiments show that most people are unaware that they constantly use this bias and have little control over it. So when physicians say they don’t think gifts influence them, they may well be telling the truth as they see it.
We place doctors in the highest positions of esteem and trust, and we expect the highest standard of ethical behaviour from them, yet even in this industry there is systemic bias introduced by a model where Pharmaceutical companies have direct contact with doctors, and doctors are taking the step to eliminate this systemic bias not by trying
really hard to not be biased, or telling patients to 'judge for yourself!' if they are biased or not, but by eliminating contact with manufacturers and therefore eliminating the SOURCE of the systemic bias.
No one in this thread has been able to demonstrate that reviewers are not similarly subconsciously biased by the relationships they have established with manufacturers.
No one has really pointed out why what is true for doctors, is not true for reviewers. No one has really pointed out why what is true for doctors is not true for moderators or administrators.
Now we can argue whether or not this even matters, because Doctors can kill people with bad treatment and headphone reviewers (hopefully) can't kill people with bad recommendations. But I don't think that the argument that 'this doesn't really matter' is really a satisfying reason why we shouldn't work towards a better system - not necessarily crowdfunding, but ANY of the other alternatives discussed in this thread.
At the very least, Head Fi as a community should be insisting that in any case of receiving a review unit the review unit MUST be disclosed and the basis of how that unit was received MUST be disclosed. This is in the rules, but it hardly seems to be demanded by the community, and consequently is never flagged for the moderators to look into.
I don't think the standards I am talking about are anything special. They are standards for all kinds of different journalism, from normal reporting to
gadget blogs.