HPiper
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What a great jazz guitar player.
Miles is a really interesting character (musically, and otherwise as well, I understand). Most musicians go through an early development stage, where they "find" their sound, then play variations of that the rest of their career. A few, like Miles, continue to change and grow their entire careers (Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Duke Ellington, Coleman Hawkins are others who have "periods"). In Miles' case, he went from bebop to give "birth" to cool jazz, then explores modal music, starts to get more "free" and abstract with the 60's band, then goes electric in the late 60's/70's, starting "fusion" (though Miles' version was knotty, not easy listening). I first tried to learn about jazz my first year on college, tried "Miles Smiles", put it away, and didn't actually learn to like jazz until my last year, when I took a course on jazz history (Chuck Israels, a great bassist, gave the course, though I didn't realize it was a big deal at the time. He had to be out for a short time, had Lee Konitz substitute for him). The course started my life long passion for jazz. I thing there is a real benefit to hearing jazz in a linear, time line sort of way, getting a sense of how the music got from blues and ragtime to where it is now (though one doesn't HAVE to do that way, of course, may be too much like homework for some). Similarly, Miles makes sense when you listen to him that way. And, you may just NOT like the later, more abstract/thorny places Miles went, but, hearing how he got there, you may (as I did).
Sorry for going on so long.
(I once posted a basic jazz library, think it was on the Discovery Thread. I'll look for it, or redo it, one of these days. A good "class" for jazz history, which seemed as the "textbook" in my college class, is " The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz", with checking out, and I think still available from the Smithsonian).
Gotta catch my breath...
I am a very recent new Jazz fan, and just discovered and really appreciate this thread! Some artists who have stoked my interest are: Ray Brown, Ahmad Jamal, Keith Jarrett, Oscar Peterson and Gene Harris. Love these guys and just about any album by them is a winner!
I am a very recent new Jazz fan, and just discovered and really appreciate this thread! Some artists who have stoked my interest are: Ray Brown, Ahmad Jamal, Keith Jarrett, Oscar Peterson and Gene Harris. Love these guys and just about any album by them is a winner!
If you like Ray Brown, listen to The Three (w/Joe Sample & Shelly Manne) originally on Eastwind records. Wore a hole through that album. I recently found a digital extended version that had two cuts of each song...nice!
Yearnin' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx8pLFmNwn8
On Green Dolphin Street - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO4jE9LmEqo
Funky Blues - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A-lzn7Y3Rw
Miles is a really interesting character (musically, and otherwise as well, I understand). Most musicians go through an early development stage, where they "find" their sound, then play variations of that the rest of their career. A few, like Miles, continue to change and grow their entire careers (Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Duke Ellington, Coleman Hawkins are others who have "periods"). In Miles' case, he went from bebop to give "birth" to cool jazz, then explores modal music, starts to get more "free" and abstract with the 60's band, then goes electric in the late 60's/70's, starting "fusion" (though Miles' version was knotty, not easy listening). I first tried to learn about jazz my first year on college, tried "Miles Smiles", put it away, and didn't actually learn to like jazz until my last year, when I took a course on jazz history (Chuck Israels, a great bassist, gave the course, though I didn't realize it was a big deal at the time. He had to be out for a short time, had Lee Konitz substitute for him). The course started my life long passion for jazz. I thing there is a real benefit to hearing jazz in a linear, time line sort of way, getting a sense of how the music got from blues and ragtime to where it is now (though one doesn't HAVE to do that way, of course, may be too much like homework for some). Similarly, Miles makes sense when you listen to him that way. And, you may just NOT like the later, more abstract/thorny places Miles went, but, hearing how he got there, you may (as I did).
Sorry for going on so long.
(I once posted a basic jazz library, think it was on the Discovery Thread. I'll look for it, or redo it, one of these days. A good "class" for jazz history, which seemed as the "textbook" in my college class, is " The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz", with checking out, and I think still available from the Smithsonian).
Gotta catch my breath...
I frequent these boards (but haven't posted since I joined..a lot has changed!), and was just coming here to create my own Jazz help thread when I saw this..
I'm in a similar position I think. I've recently been getting into some Jazz/Rock fusion (?) stuff like Nucleus' Elastic Rock, which has been a sweet listen. Between that end of the scale and full blown jazzual experiences like Bitches Brew I don't really have much experience, I'm afraid.
I'd love to know more about what's in between artists like Norah Jones and Miles Davis or Sun Ra.
Anyway, sorry I couldn't offer you any knowledge..but I guess it's all about hearing new & exciting things, so I'll put down some random tracks I dig and hope you do too
Awesome album- got me listening to Soft Machine, too.
You'll definitely recognise this if you didn't know it already. I'd love to get into more like this.
My favourite track from this album
Just three randoms I can remember at the moment! I guess if you're into less rock, more I don't know..hiphoppy vibes I would check out RJD2 (Ghostwriter), and guys like Bonobo, Quantic, Mr Scruff, Karriem Riggins.
Really not sure what genre this next one fits into, but it's still an absolute fave of mine.
Sorry for all the links!
Edit: woah, missed your post about The Cinematic Orchestra. How did you find it? Love that record..Ninja Tune is one of the best labels out there.
Miles is a really interesting character (musically, and otherwise as well, I understand). Most musicians go through an early development stage, where they "find" their sound, then play variations of that the rest of their career. A few, like Miles, continue to change and grow their entire careers (Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Duke Ellington, Coleman Hawkins are others who have "periods"). In Miles' case, he went from bebop to give "birth" to cool jazz, then explores modal music, starts to get more "free" and abstract with the 60's band, then goes electric in the late 60's/70's, starting "fusion" (though Miles' version was knotty, not easy listening). I first tried to learn about jazz my first year on college, tried "Miles Smiles", put it away, and didn't actually learn to like jazz until my last year, when I took a course on jazz history (Chuck Israels, a great bassist, gave the course, though I didn't realize it was a big deal at the time. He had to be out for a short time, had Lee Konitz substitute for him). The course started my life long passion for jazz. I thing there is a real benefit to hearing jazz in a linear, time line sort of way, getting a sense of how the music got from blues and ragtime to where it is now (though one doesn't HAVE to do that way, of course, may be too much like homework for some). Similarly, Miles makes sense when you listen to him that way. And, you may just NOT like the later, more abstract/thorny places Miles went, but, hearing how he got there, you may (as I did).
Sorry for going on so long.
(I once posted a basic jazz library, think it was on the Discovery Thread. I'll look for it, or redo it, one of these days. A good "class" for jazz history, which seemed as the "textbook" in my college class, is " The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz", with checking out, and I think still available from the Smithsonian).
Gotta catch my breath...