finally a constructive and less combative conversation on this subject! what bothers me with the situation we have now is this gang of belligerent and highly influenced 'objectivists' and subjectivists who really in many cases have just drunk a different coolaid. Many objectivists have to rely on others to make and understand the measurements for them; does that really qualify as objectivity, or just another brand of subjectivity decided by a different metric? btw I consider myself somewhere in the middle, but anyone who has seen my posts over on diya or recognizes projects i'm working on in my profile should see there is definitely a strong objectivity.
Me, I like to achieve very high performance, I dont mind a bit of bling and use more expensive materials than the norm for better or worse. I like things to look good, have a certain exclusivity, perform well (possibly much better than needed and definitely costing more than needed) and last a long time. this is DIY BTW, only my headphones are not. Just about all of the designs In my current system, or under construction have been put through the looking glass of the audio precision system and top shelf agilent analyzers and measure better than the O2/ODAC, including the 16WPC and 250WPC (RMS) poweramps and the discrete class A dac IV stage. I'm building a few more simple discrete circuits by the likes of Mr Pass as well, who also swings both ways and either way has his eyes open.
I have no objection to feedback, or opamps, but I do not believe one can just throw them liberally and see what sticks, nor do I believe they are the answer to every problem.
I need to make a more considered reply tomorrow, perhaps I will edit, i'll see what replies happen in the meantime before I decide if it will make the conversation disjointed.
One thing I will say in reply to the above though: subjective reality/experience to the individual trumps everything, its only when the 'objective' back slapping comes into play that we have this construct called objective verification. In reality that data is also filtered through the lens of subjectivity, which creates quite the conundrum; it also seems lost on many objectivists.
It is in the hands of the individual to assign importance to each variable and decide how and what impacts on their own subjective disposition. I do not care for being told what is worthwhile for me to do with my spare time, or labelled a fool for spending more than the agreed upon amount deemed necessary to achieve the agreed upon level of audible satisfaction.