Nirmalanow
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I just got a Nexus 10 tablet for my birthday and was having a lot of fun with it, especially after discovering the Neutron music player app and also Noozxoide Eizo Rewire Pro which is an app that works in the background to provide digital signal processing. The two together sounded better that I could have ever hoped for even just with my Hifiman REOs coming straight out of the Nexus 10. Sounded even better if I fed my RSA predator and MarkL modded D5000 headphones off of the Nexus.
Then I read the glowing review of the new Jplay software for windows on 6moons: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/jplay/1.html where Paul Candy gave the software a blue moon award. So I borrowed my wife's laptop (my computer still uses XP which does not work with Jplay) and downloaded the free trial of Jplay and took it out for a spin with my Hifiman 801 serving as the USB DACand still feeding the predator and modded D5000s. Wow! What a natural and organic and detailed sound. Everything just felt right, and the music flowed so smoothly and fluidly. It definitely sounded better than the same FLAC files played on the SD card inside the 801, which is not a bad sound at all. Jplay's website is here: http://jplay.eu/
But the real surprise came when I went back to the Nexus 10. It sounded almost as good...I mean if you had to put a number on it, I would say 95% as good. So here is a $400 tablet playing with two free apps, and it comes damn close to a 100 euro program running on a full laptop feeding a $800 external DAC. When both were fed into the Predator and then the D5000s, the sound was so similar it was remarkable. The only words for the slight difference I can come up with is that somehow the instruments sounded a little more natural with the Jplay setup. But the difference was extremely slight.
Both setups have lots of ways to tweak the sound. The Jplay has a wide range of settings, and I mostly listened using the Hibernate mode of the mini-player that Jplay offers (you can also use it as a plug-in for Foobar, iTunes, and JRiver music players). This is the mode that according to Paul Candy is the ultimate in SQ. And again it sounded fabulous, and yet the Nexus was keeping up with it. The Noozxoide android app has an even wider range of settings that you can play with, and I found I liked almost all of the effects this digital processor offers, especially when used in moderation. And you can also vary the sound day to day if you want a little variety. I am not sure what each of the features of this app really do technically, but the effect is quite noticeable and yet at the same time natural and easy to listen to. I have used a lot of other digital sound effect programs and while it was always interesting and kind of stimulating, they quickly wore themselves out and were fatiguing to listen to long term. But there is no problem living with the Noozxoide effects for hours at a time, and they bring the music on the Nexus 10 alive in ways that are hard to live without.
I would definitely recommend checking out either of these programs depending on whether you are using Windows or Android. But the real surprise for me was how good the Noozxoide/Neutron combo is when compared to an arguably better hardware setup. The DAC in the hifiman is clearly much better than the one in the Nexus tablet, but the convenience of using a small tablet means I will be sticking with the Nexus, and adding the two free apps means I do not have to give up anything meaningful in SQ. The mini-player of the Jplay software is pretty limited, and while you can use Foobar, etc. for more convenience, Paul Candy says there is a slight but noticeable reduction in SQ when using Jplay as a plug-in to the other music players.
One thing I did not do was try the Jplay software on Windows 8 which according to Paul Candy and others on the Jplay forum adds another level of refinement to the sound compared to Windows 7. I also am hoping that someday Google adds external USB DAC support to Android so that I can try feeding my 801 with the Nexus tablet. Always something else to try! In the meantime, the Nexus with free apps is actually better sounding than using my Hifiman 801 as a stand alone source, again when both are feeding the Predator and D5000s.
(If you are using Android or thinking of using Android someday, you can help prod Google to add USB DAC support by voting by starring the following issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614&sort=-stars&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars)
Correction: The Neutron Music Player is not a free app. it costs $4.99. I was using the free trial version and forgot that it was just a trial.
Then I read the glowing review of the new Jplay software for windows on 6moons: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/jplay/1.html where Paul Candy gave the software a blue moon award. So I borrowed my wife's laptop (my computer still uses XP which does not work with Jplay) and downloaded the free trial of Jplay and took it out for a spin with my Hifiman 801 serving as the USB DACand still feeding the predator and modded D5000s. Wow! What a natural and organic and detailed sound. Everything just felt right, and the music flowed so smoothly and fluidly. It definitely sounded better than the same FLAC files played on the SD card inside the 801, which is not a bad sound at all. Jplay's website is here: http://jplay.eu/
But the real surprise came when I went back to the Nexus 10. It sounded almost as good...I mean if you had to put a number on it, I would say 95% as good. So here is a $400 tablet playing with two free apps, and it comes damn close to a 100 euro program running on a full laptop feeding a $800 external DAC. When both were fed into the Predator and then the D5000s, the sound was so similar it was remarkable. The only words for the slight difference I can come up with is that somehow the instruments sounded a little more natural with the Jplay setup. But the difference was extremely slight.
Both setups have lots of ways to tweak the sound. The Jplay has a wide range of settings, and I mostly listened using the Hibernate mode of the mini-player that Jplay offers (you can also use it as a plug-in for Foobar, iTunes, and JRiver music players). This is the mode that according to Paul Candy is the ultimate in SQ. And again it sounded fabulous, and yet the Nexus was keeping up with it. The Noozxoide android app has an even wider range of settings that you can play with, and I found I liked almost all of the effects this digital processor offers, especially when used in moderation. And you can also vary the sound day to day if you want a little variety. I am not sure what each of the features of this app really do technically, but the effect is quite noticeable and yet at the same time natural and easy to listen to. I have used a lot of other digital sound effect programs and while it was always interesting and kind of stimulating, they quickly wore themselves out and were fatiguing to listen to long term. But there is no problem living with the Noozxoide effects for hours at a time, and they bring the music on the Nexus 10 alive in ways that are hard to live without.
I would definitely recommend checking out either of these programs depending on whether you are using Windows or Android. But the real surprise for me was how good the Noozxoide/Neutron combo is when compared to an arguably better hardware setup. The DAC in the hifiman is clearly much better than the one in the Nexus tablet, but the convenience of using a small tablet means I will be sticking with the Nexus, and adding the two free apps means I do not have to give up anything meaningful in SQ. The mini-player of the Jplay software is pretty limited, and while you can use Foobar, etc. for more convenience, Paul Candy says there is a slight but noticeable reduction in SQ when using Jplay as a plug-in to the other music players.
One thing I did not do was try the Jplay software on Windows 8 which according to Paul Candy and others on the Jplay forum adds another level of refinement to the sound compared to Windows 7. I also am hoping that someday Google adds external USB DAC support to Android so that I can try feeding my 801 with the Nexus tablet. Always something else to try! In the meantime, the Nexus with free apps is actually better sounding than using my Hifiman 801 as a stand alone source, again when both are feeding the Predator and D5000s.
(If you are using Android or thinking of using Android someday, you can help prod Google to add USB DAC support by voting by starring the following issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614&sort=-stars&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars)
Correction: The Neutron Music Player is not a free app. it costs $4.99. I was using the free trial version and forgot that it was just a trial.