noob's eggos arrive!

Apr 3, 2003 at 4:12 AM Post #31 of 51
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Originally posted by stan23
Trust me on this one, the D66 DOES_NOT have subwoofer like bass. As a matter of fact, the bass on the D66 is a bit lacking... I think the ER6/ER4 has a lot more bass. The eggos are good, but has a bit of a tinny sound.


e-bay had one pair a few days ago. I don't know how the D66 sound compares to the D77, but I imagine it's similar, though a little less crisp.

Does anyone have technical info on the D66 diaphragm?
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 6:51 AM Post #34 of 51
1. The bass on my Eggos isn't great - but adequate and gets better with age...er... burn-in.
2. The midrange and highs are detailed and very pleasing.
3. They sound great without an amp but really come alive (especially the bass) with an amp.
4. They look great.
5. The cups are made of some textured plastic that feels great.
6. They are light and comfortable - I forget at time I have them on.
7. The earcups do get a bit warm after a while.
8. I love them!
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 9:57 AM Post #35 of 51
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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti
ALL the eggos are eggos, silly!

D11, D33, D55, D77

D22, D66


Yeah, i'm making fun of your always saying the D66 IS NOT the D77
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, and considering you have no D66, and the thread is about D66, no welcome!
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Apr 3, 2003 at 2:27 PM Post #36 of 51
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Originally posted by myself, aka me
Yeah, i'm making fun of your always saying the D66 IS NOT the D77
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, and considering you have no D66, and the thread is about D66, no welcome!
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I don't know about the tech specs on the D-66, and have started a thread to ask if anyone has them.
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 2:38 PM Post #38 of 51
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Originally posted by erikzen
Here's my take on the Eggos: it's not that the bass is lacking in these phones, it's that the highs are so pronounced. I think this gives the perception of a lack of bass. However, I also think that the d66 are missing something in the low-midrange. Some music seems to have a boxy, almost hollow characteristic. I've found this particularly noticeable on lower male vocals. I've also noticed that some snare drums lack depth. The d66 provide very clear sound with a defined soundstage. Their refined sound is not always appropriate with all music, especially full tilt rock.

While the PX200s don't come close to the clarity and soundstage that the D66 provide, their warmer sonic signature is sometimes more fun to listen to. They are also much more convenient for portable use.


The D-77's that I own are very straightforward, yet incredibly refined. I notice no glaring weaknesses, but then I don't blast my ears until they bleed.
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 3:26 PM Post #39 of 51
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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti
The D-77's that I own are very straightforward, yet incredibly refined. I notice no glaring weaknesses, but then I don't blast my ears until they bleed.


Are you implying that I do and hence the reason for the upfront highs? No, I'm very careful about not playing my headphones too loud. Too much damage already from years of playing in a rock band. I think one of the reason that I might find the D66 a bit lacking is the fact that I don't play them very loud. Of course D66 and D77 are two different animals.

Peace
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Apr 3, 2003 at 3:30 PM Post #40 of 51
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Originally posted by erikzen
Are you implying that I do and hence the reason for the upfront highs? No, I'm very careful about not playing my headphones too loud. Too much damage already from years of playing in a rock band. I think one of the reason that I might find the D66 a bit lacking is the fact that I don't play them very loud. Of course D66 and D77 are two different animals.

Peace
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No, but "lack of bass" to one person might be just right to another. I am extremely impressed with the entire spectrum from the D-77, from VERY deep bass, to gorgeous mids to incedibly detailed highs. How do the D-66 and D-77 differ? Have you listened to both?
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 3:45 PM Post #41 of 51
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Originally posted by erikzen
Are you implying that I do and hence the reason for the upfront highs? No, I'm very careful about not playing my headphones too loud. Too much damage already from years of playing in a rock band. I think one of the reason that I might find the D66 a bit lacking is the fact that I don't play them very loud. Of course D66 and D77 are two different animals.

Peace
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Another point to keep in mind is the Fletcher-Munson effect. The ear is PROPORTIONALLY less sensitive to bass, (and somewhat to high treble) at lower SPL's. Therefore, when you crank it up, the bass seems to "come alive".
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 4:16 PM Post #42 of 51
I think you [edit: and erikzen] have hit the nail on the head. I listen to my D66s at lower volumes and find them lacking in bass. When I turn them up, the bass does seem more full, but preserving my hearing is more important to me.
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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti
Another point to keep in mind is the Fletcher-Munson effect. The ear is PROPORTIONALLY less sensitive to bass, (and somewhat to high treble) at lower SPL's. Therefore, when you crank it up, the bass seems to "come alive".


 
Apr 3, 2003 at 4:18 PM Post #43 of 51
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Originally posted by Steve999
I think you've hit the nail on the head. I listen to my D66s at lower volumes and find them lacking in bass. When I turn them up, the bass does seem more full, but preserving my hearing is more important to me.
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Of course, thisoccurs with any listening situation. That's why some players come with "bass boost" features, which should of course be used then only when listening at low levels, right?
 
Apr 3, 2003 at 4:28 PM Post #44 of 51
I think the portable bass boosts are more often used as very sloppy EQ, with mass appeal, for cheapo headphones. But I do tend to prefer headphones that sound good to me, with no EQ, at moderate volumes.

Sennheiser makes a point of stating in their standard manual (comes with the HD580) that their headphones sound good at low to moderate volumes as well as at high volumes... maybe that accounts for what some people perceive as "laid back," and maybe that's why I like the HD497s and even moreso the HD580s so much.
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The loudness controls on component receivers, OTOH, are often more well-tailored to compensate for low listening levels, IMHO.
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Originally posted by Mike Scarpitti
Of course, thisoccurs with any listening situation. That's why some players come with "bass boost" features, which should of course be used then only when listening at low levels, right?


 
Apr 3, 2003 at 4:30 PM Post #45 of 51
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Originally posted by Steve999
I think the portable bass boosts are more often used as very sloppy EQ, with mass appeal, for cheapo headphones. But I do tend to prefer headphones that sound good to me, wiht no EQ, at moderate volumes.

Sennheiser makes a point of stating in their standard manual (comes with the HD580) that their headphones sound good at low to moderate volumes as well as at high volumes... maybe that accounts for what some people perceive as "laid back," and maybe that's why I like the HD497s and even moreso the HD580s so much.
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The loudness conrtols on component receivers, OTOH, are often more well-tailored to compensate for low listening levels, IMHO.
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I never use the bass boost feature on my MZ-R3, because I usually listen at a fairly adequate volume, but of course for some people this might be too modest.
 

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