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Originally Posted by derek8555
I don't understand why creative keep making similar products, first there was that media center thingy, then ZV, now ZVW...They all look the same to me in a way... And to be honest, everything is getting slimmer now and Creative is adding thickness to ZVM... unbelievable.
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If you've never owned one, I would appreciate if you stay out of this and not voice a negative opinion on a product you've never even seen, felt, tried, or owned. There's differences between looking at specs and actually using it. I use my Zen Vision 30GB everyday and it's not cumbersome or heavy, it feels substantial yes, but that gives me a higher sense of build quality and fit and finish then the "mickey mouse" feeling I got off the 5G Ipod. Once I get the money this will definitely be on my to buy list.
On a side note, The Duke Of Eli, please stop this thread crapping please, if you don't like Creative that's fine, but please stop criticizing their products. As an Ipod lover, you're speaking from a biased point of view. If you want to complain about it why don't you make a thread about it, if not please refrain from posting more comments like "22.1 mm?? That's insane!!", or "If you want something tha that big, just bite the bullet and buy a PVP". I'm not sure if you were aware, of if you personally classify a PVP as something something other than a player designed to play video however, the Zen Vision W
IS a PVP. You don't like it when people prod about the Ipod so please don't do it yourself.
If you feel the need to post, at least get your facts together please. We are not on "bordering on the release of perpendicular HD's", Toshiba lauched the F41 with a 1.8" 40GB perpendicular over a year ago on August 16th, 2005.
Second, why do you feel that perpendicular technology will increase a player's strength so much? Sure with a perp. drive you can fit an 80gb disk into a player but so what? HD size is continually increasing, and HD's will always be getting bigger as new technology is developed.
Third, overpriced? The
30GBArchos AV500, which you so often praise, sells for $450, for ten dollars more you can purchase the
60GB Creative Zen Vision.
Fourth, 4.5 hours of battery life is the time rated for constant video playback, the Ipod, with a screen almost half the size of the Zen Vision w, is only rated at 2 hours, and that rating was not conservative by any means, two hours is if you're lucky. I know, I had one. For audio playback, it's rated only an hour less with the standard battery, than the smaller screened Ipod 30Gb Ipod, and if they release a large capacity battery like they did with the Vision 30GB, battery life doubles. Compared to the smaller screened AV500, video playback battery life is the same, with a two hour difference between audio playback.
Fifth, "I'm sure it'll be acceptable, but not line-out acceptable". Are you just fooling or what? The Creative Players, with the exception of the first gen Micro which had some hiss problems, are touted for some of the best sound quality in the portable audio world. On top of the 97db SNR, the player sounds fantastic, both out of the headphone out and the
line-out, yes it does include a built-in line-out if you weren't aware. In fact, in the past, Creative's players were noted that the
only thing they could do right, was sound really good.
Lastly, "but at that size and the higher weight you might as well bite the bullet and get a PVP", as I have said before unless you classify a PVP as somethign that was not deisgned to be a play videos portably, the Zen Vision W is indeed a portable video player.
