New 24/192 dac from china-nice!
Apr 16, 2006 at 4:10 AM Post #1,096 of 1,341
AD823 has a very nice detail and airy
OPA627 is warm and has more bass
i currently run opa627 in sides and ad823 in center

the opa627 is more musical/lively when biased to class A(5-10mA)
solder a resistor from -Vs(pin4) to output(pin6)
resister values
1.5kohm 10mA(for risk takers)
1.8kohm 8.3mA
2.2kohm 6.8mA

also try 2 TDK ferrites(more detailed bass)
one on the power supply cables to the clock and the dac
one on the power supply cables from the transformer to the regulator

replace the dac output wires with 7N OCC copper wires
improves the sound stage/detail/warmer/fatter

dac.jpg
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 5:05 AM Post #1,098 of 1,341
looks like u removed your XLR's and associated cables?..


also looks like u got some new rca-outs too?

what else did you do?


Im going to try some pure silver wire instead of the 7n occ (from homegrown audio)
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 7:42 AM Post #1,099 of 1,341
yupe that's all ...

unplugging the headamp opened up the soundstage

unplugging the xlr slightly less noise

the rest is just the standard psu and clock upgrade
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 8:03 AM Post #1,100 of 1,341
Quote:

Originally Posted by jenhwa
AD823 has a very nice detail and airy
OPA627 is warm and has more bass
i currently run opa627 in sides and ad823 in center

the opa627 is more musical/lively when biased to class A(5-10mA)
solder a resistor from -Vs(pin4) to output(pin6)
resister values
1.5kohm 10mA(for risk takers)
1.8kohm 8.3mA
2.2kohm 6.8mA

also try 2 TDK ferrites(more detailed bass)
one on the power supply cables to the clock and the dac
one on the power supply cables from the transformer to the regulator

replace the dac output wires with 7N OCC copper wires
improves the sound stage/detail/warmer/fatter

dac.jpg




huge thanks jenhwa!

Im going to follow your lead and keep tweaking. I will try the 823's.
I was wondering if anyone had the 627 in Class A mode. I thought that you needed the metal can version for this for heat reasons?
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 8:43 AM Post #1,101 of 1,341
For biasing the 627 into Class A, are your sure its pin 4 to 6? or is it pin 4 to 7?
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 8:55 AM Post #1,102 of 1,341
Quote:

Originally Posted by jenhwa
AD823 has a very nice detail and airy
OPA627 is warm and has more bass
i currently run opa627 in sides and ad823 in center

the opa627 is more musical/lively when biased to class A(5-10mA)
solder a resistor from -Vs(pin4) to output(pin6)
resister values
1.5kohm 10mA(for risk takers)
1.8kohm 8.3mA
2.2kohm 6.8mA

also try 2 TDK ferrites(more detailed bass)
one on the power supply cables to the clock and the dac
one on the power supply cables from the transformer to the regulator

replace the dac output wires with 7N OCC copper wires
improves the sound stage/detail/warmer/fatter

dac.jpg






how did you get such thick wire soldered to the bottom of the pcb???

and not get it to pop off?

did you use a glob of soldeR?

or do u have it hooked up some other way? (like where the white socketed part is on top)

I notice the stock rca are gone and looks like 2 wire for each rca (1 ground 1 live on each)?

is this correct?

also looks like you pulled some other socketed parts off and just directly solder the wire?
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 11:10 AM Post #1,103 of 1,341
for bias to class A, pin 4 to pin 6, tried and tested

the wire i used is solid core, i desoldered the white connector,

plugged the wire through the pcb and soldered them

the default wire eddie used really sux, this should be the first tweak.

solid core wire is fast and has no skin effect, it took 2 days to burn in.
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 12:56 PM Post #1,105 of 1,341
skin effect is the reason solid core cables sound better then multistrand ones of the same material

the signal experiences some loss everytime it jumps from strand to strand

but solid core wire is not exactly plyable and a real pain to work with.

well if you want to nitpick, my bad, the correct wording is to reduce skin effect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ15k
What is the deal with the skin effect? How does it degrade sound?
and if there is no skin effect what s the point of using
"solid core" since only the surface of the metal would be useful?



 
Apr 16, 2006 at 1:01 PM Post #1,106 of 1,341
I have to agree that the wire btween DAC PCB and RCA sucks
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I used Canare as a replacement and like the sound more. RCA jacks suck even deeper. Finds some with good quality to replace them.
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 5:26 PM Post #1,109 of 1,341
Anyone know a good spot for some cheap blackgates? hehe..

Also which ones would be the most important to replace on the unit?


i know they have to be 2200uf 25v, could the 25v be higher like 63v or something ? or is this not possible?


http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?&han...&N=0&crc=false

would any of the Vishay in the above link be good?

what type of capacitor is needed for the main blue board, power board?

do we need Radial Electrolytic Capacitor's?
 
Apr 16, 2006 at 6:16 PM Post #1,110 of 1,341
I had also planned on changing the wire out.My choice was going to be small silver ribbon cable.If i can find any?

If you are not using the xlr and headamp i would unplug it.I also unplugged the front light.Opamp AD 712 JN i have had some great results with.Very clean high resolution.

As for bias to class A,this is interesting,but do remember before you guys go soldering there are no more 1.2--1.3 boards Available so be carefull.
 

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