[Brickstone]

Hi,
 
Hi community! I would like to get your honest opinion about my three (3) option for Hifi or Studio Monitor / Speaker.
 
Presonus Eris 4.5 - $235
Audioengine A5+ - $405
JBL LSR305 - $420
 
All of this I can get locally here in PH and I just convert the price to USD for general reference. My instinct want me to purchase Eris 4.5 as it is close to the SQ of JBL LSR305 except for a wider sound stage and clear mids.
 
I am planning to plug this speaker on my Audioengine D1 DAC/AMP via RCA.
 
Hope you can help me decide, thank you very much.
 
Best Regards,
 
 
Paulo Angelo Remoroza

 

[amigomatt]

I use Yamaha HS80M.  They have a newer version out now but I bet you could get a used pair of HS80M and I think they are phenominal for the price.  Sorry, I can't compare with the products you listed but at the time, I found the Yamahas to be far and above better than other that I tried in the price range, which included KRK, Tannoy and  a few others.

 

[Darien]

  Hi,
 
Hi community! I would like to get your honest opinion about my three (3) option for Hifi or Studio Monitor / Speaker.
 
Presonus Eris 4.5 - $235
Audioengine A5+ - $405
JBL LSR305 - $420
 
All of this I can get locally here in PH and I just convert the price to USD for general reference. My instinct want me to purchase Eris 4.5 as it is close to the SQ of JBL LSR305 except for a wider sound stage and clear mids.
 
I am planning to plug this speaker on my Audioengine D1 DAC/AMP via RCA.
 
Hope you can help me decide, thank you very much.
 
Best Regards,
 
 
Paulo Angelo Remoroza

Please don't put lsr305 in the same group as audioengine the Lsr305s are arguably the best studio monitors on the planet! and who is charging you 420$?? you can get a pair off amazon for like $260. Get them. Are you listing the PH price in dollars? is there amazon in your country? how much do they charge? screw buying local, if you can get it for half the price online - do it! Even with international shipping it would probably still be a lot cheaper than 420$. I love amazon, support amazon!! kill all other stores!! make everything amazon!!! DRONES!!! 

 

[ProtegeManiac]

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and who is charging you 420$??

 

Local distributor, who also distributes other pro gear like Ibanez

 

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Are you listing the PH price in dollars? is there amazon in your country? how much do they charge? 

 

He already wrote that.

 

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All of this I can get locally here in PH and I just convert the price to USD for general reference.

 

 

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you can get a pair off amazon for like $260. Get them. Are you listing the PH price in dollars? is there amazon in your country? how much do they charge? screw buying local, if you can get it for half the price online - do it! Even with international shipping it would probably still be a lot cheaper than 420$.

 

Shipping can be about $100, so that takes the price up to $360. You have to understand that not all people live in a Free Trade Zone and not all socialist policies always means "yeeeeeey free tuition fees whoohoo I even get an allowance as long as I'm college!!!" like Europe, because sometimes it's more like "WE HATE THE WTO!!! THEY KILL LOCAL INDUSTRIES!!! *rocks and Molotov cocktails slam into US Embassy building" (government needs to get the "free" tuition money somewhere, right? look up Freidrich Hayek's Road to Serfdom for further reading). Add Customs fees, which can be up to 100% on all items above $15, because there's a clause in the rules that basically can be phrased as "Customs Agents have all the right to call bullsh*t on your price quote and personal use clause." Basically, they can claim they don't believe you are not reselling the product professionally because one unit isn't enough proof of that (and in this case, they might come in two separate boxes, screw what "stereo" means), and they can call BS on your receipts because "hey, how do we know that isn't fake or whatever, freaking liars."

 

There's one guy here who ordered a bunch of locally rare but otherwise cheap capacitors, total was over $25. They charged him 100% import tax because they are of "retail/reselling quantity," ie, there were like twenty caps in the baggie. Screw logic over how many a single amp would use. Then there was that time that an amp was shipped back to China, but instead of repairing it they sent a new one, and Customs was charging import taxes because it wasn't even the same serial number as the one that was in the shipping receipt.

 

When I received the Fiio X1 review unit from the person who went ahead of us, DHL in India wouldn't accept it declared as having $0.00 value, despite the "Not For Sale" etched on the metal. When it arrived here the package was opened, they probably went through the internet, charged DHL  $50 for the assumed $100 item, and DHL claims they can't get a refund from Customs and the only recourse is to ship it back to India and they try to get a reimbursement from the previous reviewer who shipped it. Note that there is a print out of a letter from Fiio that it is a review unit, so even if Customs didn't scrutinize the actual item to see the etching, there's still another clue about it.

 

There was one other time that I left my University windbreaker in California, and my Dad shipped it to me since USPS shipping was slow but still cheaper than me getting another one. I received it here and Customs tried to charge me, they cited the "we call BS" clause on my new item story because it looked new and we just snipped off the tags, to which I yelled with all the frustration I could muster, "IS THERE AN ATENEO (Athens) DE MANILA UNIVERSITY...IN screw**G ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA?!?!" I whipped out my phone to call a friend's brother's frat brother in the Ombudsman's office and they let me walk out with my windbreaker before anybody answered.

Oh and there was also that time that my Mom sent me a package of Christmas cards, since it'll be cheaper to send twenty then I can dish them out during ______mas Eve and ______mas Day luncheon (taboo on Head-Fi but I suppose saying these will take place in December isn't) than if they sent them individually, and Customs tried to argue that they were of "retail quantity" since there were twenty. I had my camera on my neck running, and then I opened one and read my brother's hilarious and unflattering message to my obese cousin; then I opened another one and read my brother's message to me asking about my cat; and then another one from my Dad to my Aunt. It took three envelopes for them to get the message that there's just no damn way I'd resell any of those considering that they already have personalized messages added to the generic greetings.

 

Oh, and then at some point I had to get a cable from LunaShops to replace the one that came with my VS3DS, so I marched in there with my cam running. I signed and it was done. I thought they recognized my face and didn't want to screw with me anymore, but then I remembered that a new Customs commissioner appointed by the President was really doing a clean up job. Until he was implicated in a legislative pork barrel scam that involved ghost recipients of tax money, so he resigned so his work can't be impeded (if you ask me the point precisely was to impede his work), and until today none of the charges against him have any real case moving against him.

 

So, well, lucky you, you live in a Free Trade Zone far away from socialists. Congratulations. Even if he used a cargo forwarding service, he'd still spend at least $60 on shipping a heavy and bulky item, plus the flat rate import tax, and then if anything goes wrong with the unit, there's no cargo backwarding service that works the same way, so he'd have to spend $100+ shipping it back, unless he can find a technician who can work on it. Which is either pay the eye-gouging charges by the distro on an item that wasn't theirs, or find a tech who can somehow work on it even if he can't exactly find the schematics online.

 

Customs is so bad here that rich people cough up 100% total of all taxes levied on Porsche 911s, while some politicians control provincial ports and provincial LTO (ie DMV) offices, so what they do is smuggle some of their cars from the US declared at totally BS prices and then use them here since they apparently didn't get enough money from the bogus pork barrel recipients to pay taxes on legit 911s.

 

When I bought my Meier Cantate.2 from a Head-Fi member in Tazmania what I did was ship it to California, considering it might arrive while I'm on the other side of the Pacific anyway. Cost the same from Aussie postal service, but no taxes when it arrived in the US. Then I just put it in my luggage when I flew back, and my lock was broken but TSA put in a letter that they opened it because I used the wrong, non-TSA lock. And then airport thefts became a thing here (and even in the US), and I dodged a bullet there. Oh, wait, there was that "bullet scam" that was uncovered a few months ago in the Manila airport where security personnel kept "finding" bullets in bags.
 

 

[Brickstone]

ProtegeManiac is correct and by the way the cheapest pair I can find in Amazon for JBL  LSR305 is around $299 (Shipping + Duties and Taxes are not yet included). Shipping usually cost $115 + Duties and taxes that will range from $50 - $150 depends on appraisal of the customer agent.
 
You must understand that guys that I already taken account the chances of getting items abroad, but considering this factor over the extra charges and the convince of having a local warranty is already a big factor (This means I will not have to send the item back for the retails to check if the unit is really faulty and at the same time shipped the new item back to me).
 
I also check the Yamahas and it is considerably good to have them, but the price is very stiff costing me $385 on a single monitor speaker for HS8.
 
 

  Please don't put lsr305 in the same group as audioengine the Lsr305s are arguably the best studio monitors on the planet! and who is charging you 420$?? you can get a pair off amazon for like $260. Get them. Are you listing the PH price in dollars? is there amazon in your country? how much do they charge? screw buying local, if you can get it for half the price online - do it! Even with international shipping it would probably still be a lot cheaper than 420$. I love amazon, support amazon!! kill all other stores!! make everything amazon!!! DRONES!!! 

No one is telling A5+ is on the same level as LSR305 in term of performance and price point. I just state what are my final choices are.
 
So again with humble respect to everyone please help me decide which of the three (3) is the best choice.

 

[Darien]

  ProtegeManiac is correct and by the way the cheapest pair I can find in Amazon for JBL  LSR305 is around $299 (Shipping + Duties and Taxes are not yet included). Shipping usually cost $115 + Duties and taxes that will range from $50 - $150 depends on appraisal of the customer agent.
 
You must understand that guys that I already taken account the chances of getting items abroad, but considering this factor over the extra charges and the convince of having a local warranty is already a big factor (This means I will not have to send the item back for the retails to check if the unit is really faulty and at the same time shipped the new item back to me).
 
I also check the Yamahas and it is considerably good to have them, but the price is very stiff costing me $385 on a single monitor speaker for HS8.
 
 
No one is telling A5+ is on the same level as LSR305 in term of performance and price point. I just state what are my final choices are.
 
So again with humble respect to everyone please help me decide which of the three (3) is the best choice.

get the lsr305 - it probably is better that you buy them locally since it's about the same with tax/international shipping and you can have that local warranty in case something goes wrong. 

 

[PurpleAngel]

  ProtegeManiac is correct and by the way the cheapest pair I can find in Amazon for JBL  LSR305 is around $299 (Shipping + Duties and Taxes are not yet included). Shipping usually cost $115 + Duties and taxes that will range from $50 - $150 depends on appraisal of the customer agent.
 
You must understand that guys that I already taken account the chances of getting items abroad, but considering this factor over the extra charges and the convince of having a local warranty is already a big factor (This means I will not have to send the item back for the retails to check if the unit is really faulty and at the same time shipped the new item back to me).
 
I also check the Yamahas and it is considerably good to have them, but the price is very stiff costing me $385 on a single monitor speaker for HS8.
 
 
No one is telling A5+ is on the same level as LSR305 in term of performance and price point. I just state what are my final choices are.
 
So again with humble respect to everyone please help me decide which of the three (3) is the best choice.

 
The Audioengine is overpriced for the audio quality it provides.
With the Audioengine your paying extra for feature that chances are you would not need or want.

 

[Brickstone]

   
The Audioengine is overpriced for the audio quality it provides.
With the Audioengine your paying extra for feature that chances are you would not need or want.

 Nice to hear from you again PurpleAngel, so what will be your choice if you are me. Base on Price, Asthetics, Sound Quality & Overall Perfomance.
 
By the way I love how Presonus design the product, since I have some kids of mine who will be playing on the same room with my monitors and those brats (^_^) love to poke the the center piece of the speakers on every room in the house. ^_^ 

 

[Brickstone]

  get the lsr305 - it probably is better that you buy them locally since it's about the same with tax/international shipping and you can have that local warranty in case something goes wrong. 

Yeah, thanks bro for your answer. ​

 

[haiu2323]

I have a pair of LSR305s and love them. I got them for $230/pair in the US and that was probably the best deal I have ever got. They are so accurate and you can't beat them at that price. Throw in an 8-inch (sub $150) and you have yourself a kick ass 2.1 setup.
 
I feel your pain on the import taxes and shipping charges though. Good luck hunting!