Need albums similar to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Jan 25, 2006 at 9:57 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17

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Hi guys,

I was hoping you could offer suggestions for albums/artists in the same vein as Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?

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Jan 25, 2006 at 10:34 AM Post #2 of 17
This is an obvious suggestion, but have you checked out Wilco's preceding lp, Summerteeth?
 
Jan 25, 2006 at 10:43 AM Post #3 of 17
Not yet but you reminded me I should
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Any other suggestions perhaps?
 
Jan 25, 2006 at 4:48 PM Post #5 of 17
Wow, that's a wide open field. Ya got a minute? Depends somewhat on how faithful to that sound you want, but I'd assume you don't really need something that sounds just like it, since you already have it
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Anyway, YHF has kind of a distinctive sound since it mixes many pre-existing elements in ways that weren't often mixed at the time. Mercury Rev did something similar on their Deserter's Songs album a few years before YHF, but tapping into some of the Band's version of Americana to mix with some Neil Young heart & soul and the Beatles pop and Pink Floyd space and the noise elements of their early career. Similar to the Flaming Lips emergence into a true pop band on Clouds Taste Metallic and especially Soft Bulletin. Modest Mouse explored similar territory between inner and outer space on their excellent The Moon & Antarctica. And Issac Brock assembled some of my favorites in indie rock for the Ugly Casanova Sharpen Your Teeth project, including from Black Heart Procession whose last three or four albums are also excellent. And also a couple guys from Califone ...

But one that I'd recommend is Quicksand/Cradlesnakes by that same Califone. Amazing work. Probably my favorite of 2003. Some of that same type of fragmented imagery that Tweedy and his band used on YHF. And similarities in the music too, with electronic elements augmenting the acoustics. There was a label on the cover with a quote from the Chicago Tribune, "How the Flaming Lips might've interpreted Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music". Maybe, but The Flaming Lips have never come to my mind when listening to Califone, although more pop elements have been added on this release. They've also added a little more avant-garde jazz feel to this one, kind of like they're moving beyond that Rolling Stone's Exile On Main Street blueprint for dirty folk-blues. Not that they've abandoned their original blend of electronically textured folk-blues, they've added to and extended it in new directions, making for a more diverse album than their last one, the excellent Roomsound, although that one still remains my favorite.

The song "Michigan Girls" capsulizes much of the band's appeal for me. Outstanding guitar playing and song writing, with one of Tim Rutili's best vocals yet. He can really breathe life into what sometimes reads like a string of fractured images, "dry white scratches on a sunburnt shin, don't give it a name", giving it color and body, yet he still manages to keep the images loosely tethered with his vocal shadings. Not that he has that great a voice, but like most good blues singers, he does know how to use what he has. Superb song, especially when it hits the chorus, and the spacey percussion and piano sounds fill the background.

Here's what someone else said at the americana-uk.com site ... http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/?id=100159

Ripped bleeding from pop, country, avant-noise, art-rock and plain old folk music, “Quicksand/Cradlesnakes” reinforces Califone'’s position as the premier left of centre noise-niks with tunes, anywhere in the world. It’s their first to be licensed to Thrill Jockey, and comes not so long after the excellent news of Fruitbats signing to Subpop; whilst the endless comparisons aggravate Johnson and Rutili equally, they do come from some of the same places musically speaking, albeit Fruitbats being more pastoral of these cousins. More pertinently perhaps, for Modest Mouse / Ugly Casanova lovers, Rutili firmly eclipses Issac Brock’s startling talent, whilst veering even further from sanity. The key to the success of the whole project is an innate ability of knowing when to lay glittering melodies before the listener, and when to when to make a rhythmic but somewhat atonal statement of alienation from what has come before. There are segments on the fantastically titled “Horoscopic Amputation Honey” which recall the most precious moments of country-blues tinged 70’s American rock- real nuggets of pop heaven interspersed with feedback, fuzz and a mean lead guitar figure carefully picked out with clarity and space. “Michigan Girls” opens with an acoustic guitar, an elegant, restrained, folky vocal and a cello casting a calmness and spare beauty over proceedings; every now and again, there’s a Massarella-inspired percussive breakdown before the chiming momentum is restored. “Cat Eats Coyote” is a lunatic abstract workout which sounds like a nightmare from Rennie Sparks and Susan Young’s combined sub-conscious, their dreams interrupted by Sam Coombes’ sax player Stanley Zappa. And “Golden Ass” is a really neat pysch-blues indie rocker. “Quicksand/ Cradlesnakes” is a big step up- a cracking sophomore effort which combines increased accessibility with just the right amount of abstract weirdness; unlike some avant-rockers, Califone have a firm rooting in folk music, and never even hint at progressive rock, which is an enormous relief. Ugly Casnanove and Fruitbats fans should definitely apply, and so should anyone with an interest in intelligent, expressive American pop music with guts, melody and a deviant, wandering spirit. MP


EDIT: BTW, just checked and here's a nice review of Califone and Wilco together ... http://orient.bowdoin.edu/orient/arc...11-07/ae07.htm

And also at Amazon.com the editorial review of Quicksand make s mention of YHF at the end ...
Dustbowl country, haunting percussion improvisations, and rugged rock & roll are roughly hammered together on the fourth album from Califone. Salvaged from the ashes of Drag City’s supremely haunting blues travellers Red Red Meat, this shape-shifting group--built around the core duo of Ben Massarella and Tim Rutili--is a hard to pin down. "Your Golden Ass" is an inelegant, leathery garage drone that sounds like the Modern Lovers collectively overdosing in an alley on the Lower East Side. "Horoscopic Amputation Honey" rolls mandolin, cello, and sparse electronics into an offbeat, yet oddly hymnal campfire sing-along, while "Cat Eats Coyote" is an on-the-spot foray into junkyard percussion and ghostly sax. All these stylistic skips mean that Quicksand/Cradlesnakes feels like a contradictory mix of city savvy and rural roughness, extravagant technology and salvage-store poverty. Anyone that felt Wilco’s Yankee Hotel Foxtrot or Calexico’s Feast of Wire should have been more experimental will be well-served by this exploration of marginal Americana. --Louis Pattison
 
Jan 25, 2006 at 6:42 PM Post #6 of 17
Some already mentioned, but:

Califone
Hem
Whiskeytown/Ryan Adams
Sufjan Stevens
Gillian Welch
Bobby Bare Jr.
Clem Snide
Neko Case
Shelby Lynne
Steve Earle
M.Ward

... and Billy Bragg & Wilco's Mermaid Avenue CDs.

Wilco's Ghost should be first though.
 
Jan 25, 2006 at 9:31 PM Post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by blessingx
Wilco's Ghost should be first though.


Or Neil Young's Tonight's the Night ... or Bob Dylan's Blood on the Tracks ... or Buffalo Springfield or Gram Parsons or Velvet Underground or Pavement or Sonic Youth or Radiohead or even Revolver era Beatles and Slider era T-Rex ... it's really an album that covers so much territory
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Jan 25, 2006 at 11:32 PM Post #8 of 17
I think you should take Davey's advice because he took the time and energy to write such a great response!
I would add to his list of suggestions:Bright Eyes' "Lifted or the Story is in the Soil, Keep Your Ear to the Ground" from 2002
Elliot Smith's "From a Basement on the Hill" from 2004
...and you may even want to throw in My Morning Jacket's "At Dawn" (2001)

They'll all put in you in a similarly relaxed & pensive state of mind as YHF does (at least they do it for me).
 
Jan 26, 2006 at 12:17 AM Post #9 of 17
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I think you should take Davey's advice because he took the time and energy to write such a great response!


I know, even if Califone does suck!

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...and you may even want to throw in My Morning Jacket's "At Dawn"


Yeah, although I think their latest "Z" has a more diverse sound like on YHF, and I did think of mentioning it since I've been listening to it a ton lately and made a post about it recently, but decided to leave it at Califone for now and let others toss out more suggestions. Yours are good picks too. Richmond Fontaine put out a very nice album last year called The Fitzgerald that has a lot of what I like about Wilco in it. So did Micah Hinson. And the year before there was that cool one by the Old Canes. And Wheat did that Hope and Adams that I'm really high on ... http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...90#post1804290 ... And John Askew has a band called Tracker that did a very cool little one called Polk a few years ago ... http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...54#post1755254 ... And did I mention the Radar Bros. and their Surrounding Mountains CD? Or the new Deadstring Brothers? Or ...
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Jan 26, 2006 at 2:05 AM Post #10 of 17
I am definately going to check out that Califone album Davey.
Thanks for putting so much effort into your post, much obliged
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Jan 26, 2006 at 2:12 AM Post #11 of 17
I was a late bloomer on YFH and I then moved to Bright Eyes and finally Tom Waits where I remain. Tom is definitely in the same vain...check out Real Gone or Mule Variations.
 
Jan 26, 2006 at 3:27 AM Post #12 of 17
Davey - I would've said "Z" as well, but I think it's got a polished up quality to it that "At Dawn" definitely does not. YHF doesn't sound polished to me (even though it's hardly "indy"), either. I think it's because, style-wise, it's all over the map.
Y'know, Bosk, I'm also thinking Beck's "Sea Change" might satisfy this craving of yours, as well. And it's in HDCD!
 
Jan 26, 2006 at 10:09 AM Post #13 of 17
Good golly, Davey! What a detailed and articulate response. Many thanks. If I can grub up twenty euro this weekend, I may grab that Califone album on your recommendation.
 
Jan 27, 2006 at 6:50 AM Post #14 of 17
Great advice Davey, Califone is an excellent recommendation. You may also like a band called "the Books," although they are more experimental and less song oriented than Wilco. No traditional song writing, but incredibly interesting sounds nonetheless (in the vein of musique concrete). Their albums The Lemon of Pink, Lost and Safe, and Thought for Food are all excellent. Clem Snide is another great band. No one really is that similar to Wilco though. Thats what makes them great. I've seen them twice and both are in my top ten live shows ever.
 
Jan 27, 2006 at 6:51 PM Post #15 of 17
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You may also like a band called "the Books," although they are more experimental and less song oriented than Wilco.


Yeah, I like the Books. Haven't heard much by them though. Kind of a folk sound. The year YHF came out, the Notwist Neon Golden was my favorite, but YHF was right up there too. Neon Golden has some really nice songs and they make some forays into a folk sound as well, which does give them a unique sound and one that is very endearing, but always over a nice bed of electronica. Nice sounding album too. Nina Nistasia The Blackened Air was another one high on my 2002 list. Real nice recording by Steve Albini and mastering by Steve Rooke (presumably at Abbey Road). And Albini has also been involved with Songs:Ohia which works some of that same terrain. Lots of good albums in 2002 that I still listen to all the time....

The Notwist - Neon Golden
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Black Heart Procession - Amore del Tropico
Songs: Ohia - Didn't It Rain
Radar Brothers - And The Surrounding Mountains
Nina Nastasia - The Blackened Air
Neko Case - Blacklisted
Voyager One - Monster Zero
Ugly Casanova - Sharpen Your Teeth
Sixteen Horsepower - Folklore
Enon - High Society
The Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts
 

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