Meze 99 Classics vs. AKG K551
Oct 25, 2017 at 1:40 PM Post #31 of 59
actually its more kind of budget thing. The 99 Neo and K553 pro are on my buying list. But seems like this making me more confusion among these and among K55x models(if they are same sounding why not stop all others and produce only one model). @RockStar2005 for enjoying music listening only and headband i think of buying headband later from ebay or amazon if needed so comfort issues.

Ahhh i hope you can understand my dilemma and frustration because here i can't test them until i buy them. I seen some sound demo in youtube i donno how much accurate it is but meze 99 neo sound bit muddy when compared to k553 pro and k553pro felt lack of sub bass extension. maybe am wrong ?

@Dobrescu George @akg fanboy @RockStar2005
can you guys help me a bit more with choosing one between Akg K553pro vs Meze 99 Neo?

i mostly listen to new gen musics like from Coldplay,Jane xo,illenium and many songs from chillnation and mr.suicidesheep in youtube.
but i also listen scorpion, u2, audioslave, 3 doors down, avicii, KYGO(i love his slow tempo subbass soothing songs).

questions are
1.do 99 neo sounds muddy after months of usage ?some users tell like that also feels like it has much less details of songs compared to k553pro
2.do K553pro has that sub bass extension ? i just wanted the bass to be present as such as what it is in the song. not over bass boost.

sorry for troubling you guys but am in a crisis situation and can't decide which one should i go for.
expecting all of your valuable advices plus any other audiophiles too.(am just entering into audiophile thing, i dono much audio words but i can appreciate and love a better sound quality).

this is my first deposit into music expert world so i want to make it worthy for next 3 years i guess

I think AKG made the other versions of the K550 (aka other K55X headphones) because after Harman Kardon bought them out, they no longer had the R&D (Research & Development) budget they used to (according to someone on here), and so they just released other headphones with SLIGHT (at best) differences in order to make money.

Ok on buying a headband or headband cushion later.

I think I did read somewhere that the Neo was more bassy than the 99 Classics. The 99 Classics I think also has SLIGHTLY more detail too. But like I said, some ppl on here still prefer the Neo over the 99 Cs.

akg fanboy hasn't been on here for months bench, and I have no idea if he's ever coming back. He got really into speakers in the months before he left, and I think he just wanted a break from spending so much time on Head-Fi. So although he may just show up, don't expect to hear from him. I haven't since like June or July.

George you can take the Neo question. I have no clue there except what ppl have told me. I've NEVER tried the Neo, and don't plan to.

What I will tell you is when it comes to Meze vs the AKG K55X series bench, the Meze headphones will def have MORE bass than the AKGs do. It's not that the AKGs don't have bass, they just don't have as much. At least when it comes to the 99 Cs, as you read in my 99 Cs vs. K551 review, the 99 Cs have more bass but they are excellent at CONTROLLING/CONTAINING that bass too. This is why I prefer them to the AKGs. They make listening more fun IMO. I realize that if you have the right control over the bass, it becomes an asset instead of a negative.

Well I stand by everything I told you earlier bench. If the Meze 99 Classics is too much (which is fine), then go for the ones I sent you earlier. The Meze Neo, the K55X headphones (not the K553 though as I mentioned the other ones sound the same to me + have better headband padding), or if I didn't mention it before, you can check out/look up the Koss Pro4S headphones, which SOME say sound even better than the 99 Classics! Do I know that for sure? No, but some say it is. However, the 99 Classics + the Brainwavz sheepskin leather ear pads I added to my 99 Cs probably outdo the Koss ones.

Other than that.........I have a few others on my list as well. I have not tried ANY of them, but they are all within the $100-$200 range and are well-rated (though the AKG one isn't going to be released for a couple more weeks, so no ratings yet, but looks nice at least):

Brainwavz HM5: akg fanboy told me he thought these were 200% than the AKG K551, and great for jazz & classical music. The only thing is they look pretty big but if you're ok with that then you might like them. They are more neutral like the AKGs not warm like the Meze headphones.

Sony MDR-7510: These are well-reviewed too. They also are said to have more of a neutral sound signature.

AKG K275: They will be released in a few weeks as I'd mentioned, but have very similar specs to the K55X series, though these look more portable. Other notes I had on my list for these are: "Slightly higher bass minimum vs. the K55X (16 Hz vs. 12 Hz), and K55X gets slightly louder (more sensitivity than K275). But this features a self-adjusting headband and foldable ear cups as well."

So use Google to research reviews for these and then you can decide which one you like best. I notice that the Meze Neo on U.S. Amazon went back up again to $249, but maybe if you like that one the most you can find it cheaper elsewhere. I see you live in India, so you'd have to check for sellers who can deliver to your country.

@RockStar2005 can i share the youtube sound demo links here ?

Umm, you may only, but only the ones pertaining to the Meze 99 Classics and the AKG K551. All others don't belong here in this thread really.
 
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Oct 28, 2017 at 8:10 AM Post #34 of 59
Meze is an audio company based in Romania which basically came out of nowhere and has taken the headphone world by storm! AKG is a true legend in the headphone industry as well, producing some of the greatest (and still greatest) headphones ever, like the AKG K550 (which sounds like 99% the same as the K551), the K702, the K812, and it's closed-back sibling, the K872. The AKG K550 was the first headphone I truly ever cared about, and it was the prime reason (aside from great interest I had in Hi-Res music) why I got so into Hi-Fi audio, and signed up for this website as well! Time and time again, I've seen the K55X series wipe the floor with headphones that cost DOUBLE TO TRIPLE its cost (which these days is roughly $130-$180), even highly-rated ones such as the $399 Oppo PM-3. And we're talking SEVERAL headphones up to the $400 mark.

The only headphones that ever outdid it in my opinion was the 2nd Generation Bang & Olufsen (B&O Beoplay) H6s. The 2nd Gen H6 offered more detail than the K55X series (though it probably couldn't compete with the K702, and most certainly not the K812 or K872, which both cost $1000-$1500), and was more portable. The H6s should've lasted with me a lot longer than 2 months, but their downfall was comfort, or in their case, the lack of. The H6s featured a ribbed headband which would always poke into my skull, and although they were called over-ear headphones, to me, they hardly qualified for such a distinction. The tiny earpads BARELY fit over my ears, and so after a couple months, I'd had it, and sold them off. A friend of mine who happened to buy them based on my recommendation felt the same way about his, and he did not keep his H6s either. So after trying out another pair of "cans", I went back to AKG once again, but with the K551s. And that was that................until a friend of mine on here (akg fanboy) suggested I try out the (newer) Meze 99 Classics (Silver Walnut version). And so I did, using my trusty HTC 10 with its superior sound quality, and my ever-growing catalog of Hi-Res and CD-Quality music (mostly rock, both hard and soft) as tools for this comparison.

Price: The Meze 99 Classics cost $309, and the AKG K551 runs about $160 (both per Amazon U.S.).

Looks: The 99s came in and I was quite impressed by them right away. They are as striking in their looks as they are in their sound! Here Meze has created a masterpiece of sorts: a pair of headphones with style, premium design, and more! Everything about these headphones (and their accessories) is nothing short of luxurious! They come in a really nice box which opens up magnetically, and features the 99s, various OFC (Oxygen-Free Copper) balanced cables (about 4' and 10' long, with the 4' foot one including an in-line remote), a custom soft case for the cables, an airplane adapter, a 6.3mm adapter, and a SWEET hard case for the 99s itself, all for only $309! (Even the scent of the inside of the box itself smells expensive!) The 99s' design features NO glue or plastic. Everything is neatly held together using screws. The ear pads are made of synthetic leather and memory foam, and the ear cups are made from stained walnut wood. I've read that wood has better acoustic properties than plastic or metal do, so this was a plus! I'd also read somewhere else that the staining process the 99s undergo takes about 18 months to complete as well! I've been interested in headphones with wooden ear cups for some time now, but haven't found any that were highly-rated. Aesthetically-speaking, it doesn't get much better than this! The 99s have won both sound AND design awards, which it most certainly deserves. The Meze logo itself closely resembles a trident, which is the same logo used by Italian-car maker Maserati, which happens to be my all-time FAVORITE car maker too! So maybe it was fate? Who knows? lol

The K551s come in a very nice box as well, which kind of resembles a TV or a stage, which I've always thought deserved high marks for its unique presentation style. It features a (fixed) 4' cable with an in-line remote, and a 6.3mm adapter. The K551s have some plastic on them, but also have a great deal of metal too. They also exude a premium look (Black/Silver model), and are quite nice to look at, though I slightly prefer the look of the K550 and K550 MK II. The ear pads are also made from synthetic leather and memory foam, and the ear cups appear to be metal and plastic. (see pics below)

Comfort: I found BOTH headphones to be quite comfortable. They both fit on great with no noticeable clamping. The 99s win here though because of their design. While the K551s force you to adjust to its headband, the 99s come with an adjustable SMOOTH headband, which adjusts to YOUR head, making it a better fit. But it doesn't end there. While the K551s feature rounded (and large) ear pads, the 99s come with OVAL-shaped ear pads, which really make a lot more sense because human ears are not round, they're essentially oval in shape! So not surprisingly, these fit onto my ears better too. Now this is where the H6s failed, and the 99s ALMOST suffered the same fate as well. Initially, the ear pads were on the small side, and as a result, several customers complained to Meze about this issue. So apparently several months ago, Meze made yet another very WISE decision to LISTEN to their customers and enlarge the ear pads up to about a medium or medium-to-large size. I have absolutely NO doubt that had Meze not taken this action that I wouldn't have been as happy about the 99s as I am today!

The oval shape of these ear pads also have other advantages. One of which has to do with volume and potential hearing loss. Rounded ear pads let more of the sound leak out, which in turn forces the listener to raise the volume up, which can put the listener at increased risk for (unnecessary) hearing damage. But oval-shaped ear pads isolate sound better, and therefore less sound is likely to leak out, and the urge to raise the volume up higher vanishes immediately! This is a wonderful idea, and just one of many wise decisions the 99s' creator, Antonio Meze (pronounced "Mez-zahh"), made while putting the 99s together. But why the 99s are so phenomenal only BEGINS here........................................

Bass: I came to realize how much I really loved a neutral sound signature because of AKG. Other headphones never quite sounded right to me really. Either too much of this or too little of that. The H6s even at times could sound too boomy. So I never thought I'd want anything but neutral, until the 99s came along! Although not as neutral as the K551s, the 99s feature a more "balanced" bass sound that digs even deeper than the K551s do, and so you get a stronger and better bass sound, and NO apparent leakage into the mids and treble regions either. This is KEY, because SO many of the other headphones I've reviewed failed when it came to this. The PM-3, the B&W P7, the Sony MDR-1A........either too much bass and/or the bass would tend to sometimes leak over into the mids & highs! The Blue Lola contained bass however with industrial strength, but fell short on the treble end when it came to detail. The 99s however get bass right at every turn!

The OTHER advantage to having oval-shaped ear pads makes its appearance here, where it is more appropriately placed. By offering better isolation as a result of the oval shape, I felt the bass even more closely than I did with the K551s. I really think ALL headphones should feature oval-shaped ear pads.

Mids & Highs: Both headphones are great here. It's hard to say that one was better than the other. With the right EQ, you get the best sound that each can offer.

Soundstage: The 99s prevail here as well, and this was NO small feat! One thing that AKG is known for being SUPERIOR at is offering a WIDE VAST soundstage with its closed-back headphones. I mean, they took that design to a whole new level, even being comparable with open-back headphones on this front! So when I was told the 99s had an even wider soundstage, I definitely felt some doubt. But that doubt disappeared within minutes of this comparison taking place! Thanks to the way the speaker drivers are angled, and some fantastic tuning as well, the 99s manage to outdo the K551s in soundstage, even with them having smaller speaker drivers than the K551s (40mm vs. 50mm) do. Truly amazing!!

Clarity: The overall clarity of both of these headphones is great, but once again the 99s prove victorious here as well. The 99s were odd in not one but two different ways, but these were "good" oddities: 1) Despite having the same impedance rating but a LOWER sensitivity rating than the K551s, the 99s were somehow LOUDER, though they shouldn't have been! I have no explanation for this, but perhaps someone reading this does and can offer it up in this thread?! 2) I heard details on the 99s that I never heard with ANY headphone I've ever auditioned!! In one particular case, I was playing a Hi-Res version of the Fleetwood Mac song "Second Hand News" (from the legendary Rumours album), and during the intro, I noticed what sounded like a background percussion echo of some sort right before the vocals kick in, which I swear I've never heard before! I then played that same part on my K551s, and the echo sound was COMPLETELY ABSENT, even at the same and even slightly higher volume! The 99s apparently don't let ANY details get passed it! lol

Misc: In addition to the sheer awesomeness of the 99s, Meze itself is a force to be reckoned with. The few times I had contacted Meze for answers to questions, they were more than willing to help out and tackle each one, and always within a day or two at most. And when I reached out to them to help me come up with a suitable custom EQ to really make the 99s shine (because out of the box I did not feel they compared with my K551s), they not only replied back, but they told me they were ALREADY working with someone on that. That person is George D., and he is also a Head-Fi'er! We worked together and also with akg fanboy's help & encouragement, I was able to take their advice and come up with a custom EQ on Poweramp (also see below) which REALLY makes the 99s shine!! The fact is, had I not been able to come up with such an EQ, the 99s wouldn't have done it for me personally. But fortunately, I did!

Conclusion: The Meze 99 Classics are quite an elegant pair of headphones. With these headphones I realized that even when you think you've heard it all, it's possible you haven't, so don't be afraid to be open-minded when it comes to audio products! And so now I have put my AKG K551s up for sale on eBay, and have officially decided to stick with Meze!

I feel strongly that if you're looking for great REFERENCE headphones for studio recording and editing, then the K55X series is your best bet (excluding the K553, which I DO NOT recommend). It offers a great NEUTRAL sound that will really help you get your ideas down w/o any "coloration" being added to the sound. But when it comes to listening for enjoyment, the 99s take the cake here!! They make everything I listen to sound more enjoyable and more LIVELY than ever before, so I have nothing but love for them! **I think perhaps that the 99s actually WOULD be a great choice for studio recording. Yes they are a bit colored, but they also reveal more detail than the K55X headphones do. So this is something to consider as well.**

Yes, the 99s cost around double the K551s, but for ONCE I'm getting a better headphone at practically every turn! The style, the design, the detachable (balanced) cables, the bass, the soundstage, and the details of the 99s make it a MUST BUY at $309. Having a nice-looking hard (vs. soft) case included only makes the 99s a more attractive purchase for anyone looking for fantastic audio quality and a premium look & design! Romania may not be on the "headphone audio map" the way Germany, Austria, and Denmark are yet, but in my opinion, Meze has FOREVER changed that by creating and introducing the world to the Meze 99 Classics! The 99s are INCREDIBLE headphones, and I think the world would be a better place if more people checked them out and gave them a listen as well!

Note: For anyone interested, here is my (main) custom Poweramp 10-Band EQ for the Meze 99 Classics (see below). I trust it will bring you the same Hi-Fi quality ROBUST sound that it did me! (Now, I may be tweaking it again soon, but if I do, I will make a note of it here. And please let me know if ANY of these pics don't display properly for you.)

**Update: I have added a "Bass Xtra" version and a "Bass Light" version as well. You can find them below the main one.**

**Second Update: I just tried out the Brainwavz non-angled sheepskin leather ear pads on the 99 Cs, and I must say, they provide an OUTSANDING upgrade to not only the sound quality of the 99 Cs (including an extra widened soundstage!), but also to the comfort level of the ear pads as well! They are not cheap ($40 at present time), but IMO they worth EVERY penny! They are pretty easy to put on the 99 Cs too, which was nice. I was able to do both sides in about 2-3 minutes.

When I listened to tracks like my Hybrid SACD version of Clapton's original "Layla" and Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" (Hi-Res version) with the newly widened soundstage, I heard an extra guitar "fill/part" within the intro of the "Layla" before the vocals kick in that I'd never really noticed in the past. On "Immigrant Song", before each verse, Page plays these distorted DELAYED guitar chords that sound awesome, but now, I can REALLY hear the full "breath" and every little nuance of the delay pedal, where before it sounded a bit muffled and not as clear. So RUN out today and get these pads if you want to hear the 99 Cs at their BEST! In addition, below the EQs I have listed for the stock pads, I have now included the SAME EQs but for the Brainwavz pads. I did have to make a change on the treble side (last 3 EQ bands) & Pre-Amp band to resolve the extra bit of sibilance I was getting on the new Brainwavz pads, but it appears to be under control now!**


Main EQ:




Bass Xtra version:




Bass Light version:





Brainwavz Pads EQs:

Main B/W EQ:


B/W "Bass Xtra":


B/W "Bass Light":



Meze 99 Classics:

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AKG K551:

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Hi, thanks for this great post and eq settings. I’d like to try the eq settings but i can’t seem to find the flat point in the settings you posted. Which is the midway/flat mark to start with?
 
Oct 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM Post #35 of 59
Hi, thanks for this great post and eq settings. I’d like to try the eq settings but i can’t seem to find the flat point in the settings you posted. Which is the midway/flat mark to start with?

Hi accedburn,

No problem! Glad to hear you liked it and the custom EQs as well!

I would suggest turning up the brightness setting on your computer monitor or else smartphone. They ARE visible, but a bit faint I guess. Not really sure how else to make you see it, but that should work if you do it. Oh also, clicking on the EQ pics will enlarge them, so that should help too. All of my EQs have the individual EQ bands set near the 0 point, so what looks like the center to you actually IS the center.

And please, let me know how they work out for you. Also, are you going to use the ones for the stock ear pads or the Brainwavz ones??
 
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Oct 28, 2017 at 9:16 PM Post #36 of 59
Hi accedburn,

No problem! Glad to hear you liked it and the custom EQs as well!

I would suggest turning up the brightness setting on your computer monitor or else smartphone. They ARE visible, but a bit faint I guess. Not really sure how else to make you see it, but that should work if you do it. Oh also, clicking on the EQ pics will enlarge them, so that should help too. All of my EQs have the individual EQ bands set near the 0 point, so what looks like the center to you actually IS the center.

And please, let me know how they work out for you. Also, are you going to use the ones for the stock ear pads or the Brainwavz ones??
Hey RockStar,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, now by zooming in on the pics, i do see the white dots as the centre markers. Wll try the EQs and report back. I’m using the stock pads ones for the new larger pads that came with my 99 classics.
 
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Oct 28, 2017 at 10:21 PM Post #37 of 59
Hi RockStar,

I used the 99 classics xtra bass version and combined it with the brainwavz version, and i think i've found the sweet spot for my listening preference. Still, for different genres or music files, some extra tweaking would be needed. But generally it did increase the dynamics for me. Thanks for the tips buddy!
 
Oct 29, 2017 at 1:27 AM Post #38 of 59
Hi RockStar,

I used the 99 classics xtra bass version and combined it with the brainwavz version, and i think i've found the sweet spot for my listening preference. Still, for different genres or music files, some extra tweaking would be needed. But generally it did increase the dynamics for me. Thanks for the tips buddy!

Interesting...........so you combined the stock pad Xtra Bass version with the Brainwavz (BW) pads Xtra Bass version??

I'm glad to hear that it worked out for the most part! I am very proud of those EQs, and always happy to hear that others find them useful as well! Yeah, that's understandable........even I don't use one EQ the ENTIRE time. For some bands or albums I use the Bass Light BW version, and for others I just use the Main BW EQ, and for a select few, the Xtra Bass BW one.

You are very welcome! Thanks for sharing your experience with us in this thread.
 
Oct 29, 2017 at 1:42 AM Post #39 of 59
Interesting...........so you combined the stock pad Xtra Bass version with the Brainwavz (BW) pads Xtra Bass version??

I'm glad to hear that it worked out for the most part! I am very proud of those EQs, and always happy to hear that others find them useful as well! Yeah, that's understandable........even I don't use one EQ the ENTIRE time. For some bands or albums I use the Bass Light BW version, and for others I just use the Main BW EQ, and for a select few, the Xtra Bass BW one.

You are very welcome! Thanks for sharing your experience with us in this thread.
Yes I combined the xtra bass eq with brainwavz xtra bass eq. Thanks again.
 
May 28, 2018 at 11:46 PM Post #41 of 59
Meze is an audio company based in Romania which basically came out of nowhere and has taken the headphone world by storm! AKG is a true legend in the headphone industry as well, producing some of the greatest (and still greatest) headphones ever, like the AKG K550 (which sounds like 99% the same as the K551), the K702, the K812, and it's closed-back sibling, the K872. The AKG K550 was the first headphone I truly ever cared about, and it was the prime reason (aside from great interest I had in Hi-Res music) why I got so into Hi-Fi audio, and signed up for this website as well! Time and time again, I've seen the K55X series wipe the floor with headphones that cost DOUBLE TO TRIPLE its cost (which these days is roughly $130-$180), even highly-rated ones such as the $399 Oppo PM-3. And we're talking SEVERAL headphones up to the $400 mark.

The only headphones that ever outdid it in my opinion was the 2nd Generation Bang & Olufsen (B&O Beoplay) H6s. The 2nd Gen H6 offered more detail than the K55X series (though it probably couldn't compete with the K702, and most certainly not the K812 or K872, which both cost $1000-$1500), and was more portable. The H6s should've lasted with me a lot longer than 2 months, but their downfall was comfort, or in their case, the lack of. The H6s featured a ribbed headband which would always poke into my skull, and although they were called over-ear headphones, to me, they hardly qualified for such a distinction. The tiny earpads BARELY fit over my ears, and so after a couple months, I'd had it, and sold them off. A friend of mine who happened to buy them based on my recommendation felt the same way about his, and he did not keep his H6s either. So after trying out another pair of "cans", I went back to AKG once again, but with the K551s. And that was that................until a friend of mine on here (akg fanboy) suggested I try out the (newer) Meze 99 Classics (Silver Walnut version). And so I did, using my trusty HTC 10 with its superior sound quality, and my ever-growing catalog of Hi-Res and CD-Quality music (mostly rock, both hard and soft) as tools for this comparison.

Price: The Meze 99 Classics cost $309, and the AKG K551 runs about $160 (both per Amazon U.S.).

Looks: The 99s came in and I was quite impressed by them right away. They are as striking in their looks as they are in their sound! Here Meze has created a masterpiece of sorts: a pair of headphones with style, premium design, and more! Everything about these headphones (and their accessories) is nothing short of luxurious! They come in a really nice box which opens up magnetically, and features the 99s, various OFC (Oxygen-Free Copper) balanced cables (about 4' and 10' long, with the 4' foot one including an in-line remote), a custom soft case for the cables, an airplane adapter, a 6.3mm adapter, and a SWEET hard case for the 99s itself, all for only $309! (Even the scent of the inside of the box itself smells expensive!) The 99s' design features NO glue or plastic. Everything is neatly held together using screws. The ear pads are made of synthetic leather and memory foam, and the ear cups are made from stained walnut wood. I've read that wood has better acoustic properties than plastic or metal do, so this was a plus! I'd also read somewhere else that the staining process the 99s undergo takes about 18 months to complete as well! I've been interested in headphones with wooden ear cups for some time now, but haven't found any that were highly-rated. Aesthetically-speaking, it doesn't get much better than this! The 99s have won both sound AND design awards, which it most certainly deserves. The Meze logo itself closely resembles a trident, which is the same logo used by Italian-car maker Maserati, which happens to be my all-time FAVORITE car maker too! So maybe it was fate? Who knows? lol

The K551s come in a very nice box as well, which kind of resembles a TV or a stage, which I've always thought deserved high marks for its unique presentation style. It features a (fixed) 4' cable with an in-line remote, and a 6.3mm adapter. The K551s have some plastic on them, but also have a great deal of metal too. They also exude a premium look (Black/Silver model), and are quite nice to look at, though I slightly prefer the look of the K550 and K550 MK II. The ear pads are also made from synthetic leather and memory foam, and the ear cups appear to be metal and plastic. (see pics below)

Comfort: I found BOTH headphones to be quite comfortable. They both fit on great with no noticeable clamping. The 99s win here though because of their design. While the K551s force you to adjust to its headband, the 99s come with an adjustable SMOOTH headband, which adjusts to YOUR head, making it a better fit. But it doesn't end there. While the K551s feature rounded (and large) ear pads, the 99s come with OVAL-shaped ear pads, which really make a lot more sense because human ears are not round, they're essentially oval in shape! So not surprisingly, these fit onto my ears better too. Now this is where the H6s failed, and the 99s ALMOST suffered the same fate as well. Initially, the ear pads were on the small side, and as a result, several customers complained to Meze about this issue. So apparently several months ago, Meze made yet another very WISE decision to LISTEN to their customers and enlarge the ear pads up to about a medium or medium-to-large size. I have absolutely NO doubt that had Meze not taken this action that I wouldn't have been as happy about the 99s as I am today!

The oval shape of these ear pads also have other advantages. One of which has to do with volume and potential hearing loss. Rounded ear pads let more of the sound leak out, which in turn forces the listener to raise the volume up, which can put the listener at increased risk for (unnecessary) hearing damage. But oval-shaped ear pads isolate sound better, and therefore less sound is likely to leak out, and the urge to raise the volume up higher vanishes immediately! This is a wonderful idea, and just one of many wise decisions the 99s' creator, Antonio Meze (pronounced "Mez-zahh"), made while putting the 99s together. But why the 99s are so phenomenal only BEGINS here........................................

Bass: I came to realize how much I really loved a neutral sound signature because of AKG. Other headphones never quite sounded right to me really. Either too much of this or too little of that. The H6s even at times could sound too boomy. So I never thought I'd want anything but neutral, until the 99s came along! Although not as neutral as the K551s, the 99s feature a more "balanced" bass sound that digs even deeper than the K551s do, and so you get a stronger and better bass sound, and NO apparent leakage into the mids and treble regions either. This is KEY, because SO many of the other headphones I've reviewed failed when it came to this. The PM-3, the B&W P7, the Sony MDR-1A........either too much bass and/or the bass would tend to sometimes leak over into the mids & highs! The Blue Lola contained bass however with industrial strength, but fell short on the treble end when it came to detail. The 99s however get bass right at every turn!

The OTHER advantage to having oval-shaped ear pads makes its appearance here, where it is more appropriately placed. By offering better isolation as a result of the oval shape, I felt the bass even more closely than I did with the K551s. I really think ALL headphones should feature oval-shaped ear pads.

Mids & Highs: Both headphones are great here. It's hard to say that one was better than the other. With the right EQ, you get the best sound that each can offer.

Soundstage: The 99s prevail here as well, and this was NO small feat! One thing that AKG is known for being SUPERIOR at is offering a WIDE VAST soundstage with its closed-back headphones. I mean, they took that design to a whole new level, even being comparable with open-back headphones on this front! So when I was told the 99s had an even wider soundstage, I definitely felt some doubt. But that doubt disappeared within minutes of this comparison taking place! Thanks to the way the speaker drivers are angled, and some fantastic tuning as well, the 99s manage to outdo the K551s in soundstage, even with them having smaller speaker drivers than the K551s (40mm vs. 50mm) do. Truly amazing!!

Clarity: The overall clarity of both of these headphones is great, but once again the 99s prove victorious here as well. The 99s were odd in not one but two different ways, but these were "good" oddities: 1) Despite having the same impedance rating but a LOWER sensitivity rating than the K551s, the 99s were somehow LOUDER, though they shouldn't have been! I have no explanation for this, but perhaps someone reading this does and can offer it up in this thread?! 2) I heard details on the 99s that I never heard with ANY headphone I've ever auditioned!! In one particular case, I was playing a Hi-Res version of the Fleetwood Mac song "Second Hand News" (from the legendary Rumours album), and during the intro, I noticed what sounded like a background percussion echo of some sort right before the vocals kick in, which I swear I've never heard before! I then played that same part on my K551s, and the echo sound was COMPLETELY ABSENT, even at the same and even slightly higher volume! The 99s apparently don't let ANY details get passed it! lol

Misc: In addition to the sheer awesomeness of the 99s, Meze itself is a force to be reckoned with. The few times I had contacted Meze for answers to questions, they were more than willing to help out and tackle each one, and always within a day or two at most. And when I reached out to them to help me come up with a suitable custom EQ to really make the 99s shine (because out of the box I did not feel they compared with my K551s), they not only replied back, but they told me they were ALREADY working with someone on that. That person is George D., and he is also a Head-Fi'er! We worked together and also with akg fanboy's help & encouragement, I was able to take their advice and come up with a custom EQ on Poweramp (also see below) which REALLY makes the 99s shine!! The fact is, had I not been able to come up with such an EQ, the 99s wouldn't have done it for me personally. But fortunately, I did!

Conclusion: The Meze 99 Classics are quite an elegant pair of headphones. With these headphones I realized that even when you think you've heard it all, it's possible you haven't, so don't be afraid to be open-minded when it comes to audio products! And so now I have put my AKG K551s up for sale on eBay, and have officially decided to stick with Meze!

I feel strongly that if you're looking for great REFERENCE headphones for studio recording and editing, then the K55X series is your best bet (excluding the K553, which I DO NOT recommend). It offers a great NEUTRAL sound that will really help you get your ideas down w/o any "coloration" being added to the sound. But when it comes to listening for enjoyment, the 99s take the cake here!! They make everything I listen to sound more enjoyable and more LIVELY than ever before, so I have nothing but love for them! **I think perhaps that the 99s actually WOULD be a great choice for studio recording. Yes they are a bit colored, but they also reveal more detail than the K55X headphones do. So this is something to consider as well.**

Yes, the 99s cost around double the K551s, but for ONCE I'm getting a better headphone at practically every turn! The style, the design, the detachable (balanced) cables, the bass, the soundstage, and the details of the 99s make it a MUST BUY at $309. Having a nice-looking hard (vs. soft) case included only makes the 99s a more attractive purchase for anyone looking for fantastic audio quality and a premium look & design! Romania may not be on the "headphone audio map" the way Germany, Austria, and Denmark are yet, but in my opinion, Meze has FOREVER changed that by creating and introducing the world to the Meze 99 Classics! The 99s are INCREDIBLE headphones, and I think the world would be a better place if more people checked them out and gave them a listen as well!

Note: For anyone interested, here is my (main) custom Poweramp 10-Band EQ for the Meze 99 Classics (see below). I trust it will bring you the same Hi-Fi quality ROBUST sound that it did me! (Now, I may be tweaking it again soon, but if I do, I will make a note of it here. And please let me know if ANY of these pics don't display properly for you.)

**Update: I have added a "Bass Xtra" version and a "Bass Light" version as well. You can find them below the main one.**

**Second Update: I just tried out the Brainwavz non-angled sheepskin leather ear pads on the 99 Cs, and I must say, they provide an OUTSTANDING upgrade to not only the sound quality of the 99 Cs (including an extra widened soundstage!), but also to the comfort level of the ear pads as well! They are not cheap ($40 at present time), but IMO they worth EVERY penny! They are pretty easy to put on the 99 Cs too, which was nice. I was able to do both sides in about 2-3 minutes. (NOTE: DISABLE "TONE" ON THE EQ SCREEN. YOU DON'T NEED IT.)

When I listened to tracks like my Hybrid SACD version of Clapton's original "Layla" and Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" (Hi-Res version) with the newly widened soundstage, I heard an extra guitar "fill/part" within the intro of the "Layla" before the vocals kick in that I'd never really noticed in the past. On "Immigrant Song", before each verse, Page plays these distorted DELAYED guitar chords that sound awesome, but now, I can REALLY hear the full "breath" and every little nuance of the delay pedal, where before it sounded a bit muffled and not as clear. So RUN out today and get these pads if you want to hear the 99 Cs at their BEST! In addition, below the EQs I have listed for the stock pads, I have now included the SAME EQs but for the Brainwavz pads. I did have to make a change on the treble side (last 3 EQ bands) & Pre-Amp band to resolve the extra bit of sibilance I was getting on the new Brainwavz pads, but it appears to be under control now!**


Main EQ (Stock Pads):




Bass Xtra version (Stock Pads):




Bass Light version (Stock Pads):





Brainwavz Pads EQs:

Main B/W EQ:


B/W "Bass Xtra":


B/W "Bass Light":



Meze 99 Classics:

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AKG K551:

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Sir @RockStar2005,

Would you mind stating the specific values of the EQ settings for the Main EQ?

I'm having trouble determining the exact values.

I just got the Neo's and I was hoping to try it out.

Thank you.
 
May 29, 2018 at 2:10 AM Post #42 of 59
Sir @RockStar2005,

Would you mind stating the specific values of the EQ settings for the Main EQ?

I'm having trouble determining the exact values.

I just got the Neo's and I was hoping to try it out.

Thank you.

Hey Roy,

I'd honestly love to, but the issue with Poweramp is that it doesn't have any numeric values (besides 0) posted on its EQs, which annoys me probably as much as it probably annoys you. lol So the best you can do is if you're using another music player app is to try to and match up the shape of the EQ to the one of my EQ. I'm sure with a little patience you can come close if not exactly. But know that I switch through the diff EQs b/c sometimes the bass is too high and sometimes it's not enough, so you should experiment with that too.

I've asked the devs at Poweramp to add a parametric EQ, but those dudes must be on crack b/c a new major update was due like 2-3 years ago, and they still haven't deployed it. Just an alpha version which is slightly buggy. lol And when you go on their forum and ask, you get nowhere. Lazy!!

That's cool. I've heard good things about the Neo as well from ppl on here. Enjoy!
 
May 29, 2018 at 6:45 AM Post #43 of 59
Hey Roy,

I'd honestly love to, but the issue with Poweramp is that it doesn't have any numeric values (besides 0) posted on its EQs, which annoys me probably as much as it probably annoys you. lol So the best you can do is if you're using another music player app is to try to and match up the shape of the EQ to the one of my EQ. I'm sure with a little patience you can come close if not exactly. But know that I switch through the diff EQs b/c sometimes the bass is too high and sometimes it's not enough, so you should experiment with that too.

I've asked the devs at Poweramp to add a parametric EQ, but those dudes must be on crack b/c a new major update was due like 2-3 years ago, and they still haven't deployed it. Just an alpha version which is slightly buggy. lol And when you go on their forum and ask, you get nowhere. Lazy!!

That's cool. I've heard good things about the Neo as well from ppl on here. Enjoy!


Thanks so much!

I'll emulate your settings.

Thanks again!
 
May 29, 2018 at 12:32 PM Post #44 of 59
Thanks so much!

I'll emulate your settings.

Thanks again!

You're welcome!

Realize too that the Neo and 99s are tuned slightly differently. I believe the Neo has more bass? So you may wanna "dip" the bass EQs (first 3 bands) down a bit more for your Neos to sound their best. But I've used that main EQ (and its alternate versions) on like 4 different headphones now, and in ALL cases it made them sound better than not only the "Rock" preset in Poweramp (which I still use in the car), but also vs. "No EQ" too.

Also, I no longer own the 99 Cs. Since then I'd moved onto the Sennheiser Over-Ear HD1s which are great, but then I found the Bowers & Wilkins P7 (wired) to be even more superior than them all, so I currently use that, with the Magic EQs, of course. lol A couple years ago when I'd first bought them (and then later returned) they sounded too bassy, but I gave them a second chance recently and now they sound SPECTACULAR! Got them for $350 (usually $400), though I'm seeing they brought the price down again to $334 on Amazon.

Let me know if you have any other questions.
 
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Oct 25, 2018 at 5:59 PM Post #45 of 59
There are some good comparisons in here of the Meze Classic 99's with the AKG K551's. (I'm not so familiar with the 551's though, I have the 553 Pro's.)

So I have the K553 Pro's. I really really like them. But I think they could use a hair more low end. For reference, I had the AT M50x's, and I thought they had too much low end.

I also just got the Thinksound ON2's, and I think they are too bright. Also have the M40x's, and I can't figure out what I don't like about them, but I just don't like them. Maybe too V-shaped. Too much bass and treble vs the mids.
 

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