Men, do your women get angry at you for random things?
Mar 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM Post #46 of 91
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Originally Posted by nylan8301 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'd just shrug it off. There will be moments where little things will just set her off. For me, it's not throwing away the little plastic ring after opening a new gallon of milk.

Every time I forget, I get "the talk".

Nylan



Arrgh! "The Talk," as in "We need to talk."

I hate that.
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 2:16 AM Post #48 of 91
It's never a 'random' reason. Just one you don't (/will never) understand at the time, nor will she will never explain to you, because you're supposed to be able to read her mind and know what it was before the problem came about, and do something to avoid it. 'Scuse me while I go fix my time flux capacitor and practise my ESP.
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 4:58 AM Post #49 of 91
Thanks again, BlessingX, for being the voice of reason. It's true that women and men complain about each other probably equally. But it's a bit lopsided here.

As for the OP's post - who knows. People are people, and maybe she's got something else on her mind. Maybe the predictions of doom and gloom are true.

Or maybe, the snoring was just getting on her nerves.

My husband snores like it's a sport, and earplugs only attenuate the bass. Yes, he has highs, mids, and lows to his snoring. I could write a review of it. The problem is I don't tune out sound very well when trying to sleep and I never have. It's not a new thing, something that suddenly gets on my nerves.

What does happen is that I swallow saying anything about it, and then sometimes, not always, will suddenly have a lot to say about it. I never have fought about just "you snore!" - because that's no newsflash. What can set me off are some of his habits that contribute to the snoring. And the fact that we have free healthcare and an awesome doctor just down the street that he could see about this.

And he won't do that, and what he is doing is detrimental to his health and it's just being stupid, and only hurting himself and keeping me awake - all because why? He's not bothered that he keeps me up all night, or he doesn't want to live very long? There aren't many good answers he can give.

The end result is that I worry about him, and I sleep on the uncomfy-for-sleeping couch.

But my argument here centers on actually wanting to keep him around longer, not because of just snoring.

If modern medicine doesn't help the OP's snoring problem (and it's worth checking out!), then if it's really bad, maybe having two rooms isn't a bad idea? My parents have a "guest room" that's a code word for "mom's alternate bedroom when dad gets too loud." There's no shame in simply needing a good night's sleep every now and then. It doesn't mean you can't have sex0rs, or that you don't love each other.

Being annoyed at being kept awake by sleeping next to a freight train doesn't have to mean you don't love someone and that you want to divorce. Seeing it that way is just silly IMO. People seem to find any reason to see a relationship as doomed.
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 5:29 AM Post #50 of 91
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Originally Posted by fordgtlover /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Unfortunately it tends to be the big things that we focus on when we are looking to get into relationship - movie and music genres, moonlight walks, indoor/outdoor activities, etc - but these tend not to be the things that annoy us in the longer term. The longer term issues can often stem from the things the OP has posted about. Does your partner chew with their mouth open? Do they pick their nose, teeth, toenails etc? Do they make a strange clicking sound when they eat, breath, sleep?

You have to live with these things every single day for the next 30 - 50 years. Chinese water torture anyone?

Relationships need work - patience, consideration and communictaion - from both parties. Ask any couple who have been married for a long time.

"...give me the strength to change the things I can. The courage to accept the things that I cannot. And the wisdom to know the difference"



I think what really drives me nuts isn't that she complains about the little things that I do, but that she can't see that they're just really little, inconsequential things. Does she do things that bother me? Yes - but I attribute my getting annoyed at this she does as my problem to deal with, not hers. Where as her philosophy on this subject is that if I'm doing something that annoys her, it's my problem, not hers. I've have expressed this very point with her, and she responds by saying "If I'm doing something that drives you nuts, just tell me", except that I think that it's kind of childish and petty. For example, the way she loads the dishwasher really drives me nuts. It's just a random placement, willy-nilly of dishes - with no thought whatsoever to the direction from which the water is coming, and then she wonders why the dishes don't come out clean. I tried explaining it to her once, but she said I was wrong and walked away. My solution? I just re-arrange the dishes now before I start the dishwasher so they'll get clean. The other thing is that she wants me to do things the same way she does them. When I clean the kitchen (my housework chores are to clean the kitchen and bathroom, while she is responsible for doing vacuuming and dusting - she loads the washer, I load the dryer), I clean it from top to bottom, so that i"m not repeating any work - everything falls downhill. She doesn't want me to clean that way, and to this day, i still don't understand why she cares. But she does. But I digress.





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Originally Posted by plainsong /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thanks again, BlessingX, for being the voice of reason. It's true that women and men complain about each other probably equally. But it's a bit lopsided here.

As for the OP's post - who knows. People are people, and maybe she's got something else on her mind. Maybe the predictions of doom and gloom are true.

Or maybe, the snoring was just getting on her nerves.



What I said, or had intended to communicate, wasn't that she gets annoyed at my snoring (which I would fully understand) - she gets annoyed at the sound of my breathing. Yes, sometimes she yells at me when she's trying to go to sleep because my breathing is too loud for her. Not snoring, breathing. If I'm snoring, kick me awake - I'm fine with that. I'll stay awake until I can tell she has fallen asleep (because SHE snores) and then I go back to sleep.

Again though, the point of my original message wasn't that I really have any legitimate gripes. It was meant more in jest. Sometimes it feels like I do all sorts of things that drive her nuts, that she's always correcting me on. The only thing i want to correct her on is to live and let live. To that she responds with "I'm making you better, don't you want to be better?
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 7:22 AM Post #51 of 91
I know your post was tongue-in-cheek. I guess I feel it's just strange that so many people warn you of doom and gloom and oh you're so heading for divorce oh it's going to get worse, bail out now!

And meanwhile I sit here thinking "Wait a second, we have a snoring issue in our marriage, and we aren't divorcing, don't want to divorce, love each other very much, it's just nothing's perfect.." - and why is it always so black and white to some people? Why does it have to be that everything has to be perfect or else divorceville? If you go into relationships always with that mentality, then you're right, it will end.

In response to what your GF says, I'll quote a male friend of mine: "Women don't see the actual you, they see potential." - and I guess that's true. If it wasn't for me, my husband would have that bald guy with trying to grow his hair hairstyle, he would be wearing navy blue t-shirts that were too small with black shorts that were too short, looking a bit like a walking bruise, complete with high socks and cheap dress shoes, wearing glasses too big for his face.

I also threw out his cotton ties, because no, they are not ever going to come back in style.

So now instead he looks like what I saw: A handsome fair-complected blue-eyed guy with broad shoulders and wiry build with muscle definition that says he doesn't try too hard, but that he's strong.

And luckily I saw the potential.
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I hate nagging. His stepmom does it, and it's how she shows love and I can't stand it. Of course neither can he, but sometimes I do have to act like his own personal PocketPC or else he simply will never do things like... remind his family he's still alive. I don't like that role, and I frequently remind him of that.
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But as my mom says, I'm married and there are just certain things that he's not going to get right unless I'm there to tell him. I swear, we didn't have that problem before getting married, but then after we said I do it's like some switch was flipped off in his brain.
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And no, we're not getting divorced because of it.
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Poor Anders, he takes such a beating just because I'm trying to level the playing field by griping about a guy. To balance it, I'll brag about how he just got a Bronze Excellence award at work. What it means, we don't know, but it gives a little tiny bonus this month, a lunch with the boss (yay), a plaque, and should the silver and gold level employees be unable to fulfill their duties, then he's like the Speaker of the House!
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I'll also say he's very talented with graphics stuff, and is a small-mobile-device-screen-beautification-specialist. If anyone here is a WM PocketPC or Smartphone user, and you are a fan of customizing your today screen/homescreen (and if you don't, then you should), he might be known to you as Juni.
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 9:18 AM Post #52 of 91
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My girlfriend got mad at me cuz i cheated on her... in her dream.


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I had that too! My wife suddenly punched me in the middle of the night(which woke me up) and was angry because of what SHE dreamt! Most of the time I just tease her with her little moods. Last time she was angry because I "forgot" her birthday....She had to check the calendar when I told her her birthday wasn't until tomorrow
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Mar 12, 2008 at 9:40 AM Post #53 of 91
My husband and I both have done that, had that weird feeling after a very real (at the time) dream. We spend the day teasing each other: "Why did you do that?" "I didn't!" "You did!" "It was a dream!"

I'll admit that when I can't find something, suspect number 1 is always my husband, who has never in 10 years ever remembered moving things that he has moved.

So when something is lost, my temper automatically flares up at him, because he's the one with the history of moving stuff and then forgetting it ever happened, but then there's egg on my face when I find the lost item, and it's plainly me who moved it.
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM Post #54 of 91
All the time, and then I hide in the bathroom:

The Conversation:

FEXGF: Who are you chatting with?

Me: I'm not chatting, I'm posting on head-fi.

FEXGF: Is that that online group of geeks?

Me: No, they are not geeks, they are normal people.

FEXGF: You're a geek.

Me: Ok, I'm a geek; may I continue posting please?

FEXGF: You see, you're so busy with that computer of yours that you're going to miss another opportunity to have sex.

Me: It's ok to have sex now?

FEXGF: Oh forget it, you missed your chance.

Me: Ok, but how do I know when the sex is on again?

FEXGF: I shouldn't have to tell you. You should know automatically.

Me: Ok, I'll know automatically the next time. I promise.

FEXGF: You lie.

Me: Let me just finish this one post and we'll go upstairs, ok?


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FEXGF: What are you doing in there; you're in there for a half hour.

Me: I just got in here.

FEXGF: You know we only have one bathroom; that's very inconsiderate.

Me: But I'm the only one that cleans it.

FEXGF: Well, just hurry up, I have to go.

Me: It's taking longer than I thought and I'm just reading some posts. I'll be quick.

FEXGF: You're never quick. You'd think you have an online girlfriend.

Me: I don't - I have you.

FEXGF: The cat wants to come in - he's scratching the door let him in.

Me: If I let him in, are you going to try to come in too?

FEXGF: No, you have 5 more minutes. Let the cat in. The door is getting all scratched.

Me: Ok.

FEXGF: I don't hear anything in there.

Me: We're just finishing up.

FEXGF: What is the cat doing?

Me: He's also posting on head-fi.

FEXGF: You wish. Wouldn't that be convenient. He can take over for you when you travel.

Me: Good idea. I think I like that; It'll get my post count up.

FEXGF: Your what?

Me: Uh nothing. Ok, I'm finishing up let me let the cat out.

FEXGF: Hey he's all wet - what did you do to him?

Me: Nothing, he likes the sink, so I turned the water on.

FEXGF: Ewwww now go dry him off.

Me: Ok, let me just put the laptop down.

FEXGF: Gimme that. I want to see what you're talking about.

Me: Ok.

FEXGF: This is weird. What kind of parents put headphones on their kids?

Me: Intelligent ones. Kids like good music.

FEXGF: No they don't; they just can't complain. You people are just weird.

Me: I know, but I like weird people.

FEXGF: Are you calling me weird?

Me: Ok, you're right. We are all weird. It's a conspiracy. We're all talking about you. Now that that's out in the open can we go to bed?

FEXGF: Yes, but don't bring the cat upstairs. He's wet.
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 1:10 PM Post #56 of 91
opposites attract , learn to expect these situations, and be prepared for attempts at emasculation, also women mostly fight with words,if your lucky, I wear the pants in my house and my wife said I could say so,bye
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Mar 12, 2008 at 1:12 PM Post #57 of 91
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Originally Posted by plainsong /img/forum/go_quote.gif
So when something is lost, my temper automatically flares up at him, because he's the one with the history of moving stuff and then forgetting it ever happened, but then there's egg on my face when I find the lost item, and it's plainly me who moved it.


LOL...my wife of 20 years does the same thing. I've learned to not move her stuff. And since my stuff is her stuff, that pretty much means everything.
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Mar 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM Post #58 of 91
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Originally Posted by zaphod373 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
also women mostly fight with words


Not really. You'll be surprised to find that it is women who show more violence in relationships (slapping, hitting etc). Men exhibit violence as well, but serious injury is mostly caused by men though. Prof @ my school researches on this topic, and it surprised me when I first learned it.
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Mar 12, 2008 at 2:51 PM Post #59 of 91
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Originally Posted by Clutz /img/forum/go_quote.gif
she responds by saying "If I'm doing something that drives you nuts, just tell me", except that I think that it's kind of childish and petty.....I tried explaining it to her once, but she said I was wrong and walked away.


Same thing with my gf. She gets upset at me for petty things I wouldn't get upset at her for. When I told her this, she told me to tell her when something is bothering me. But when I do, she gets upset or depressed then we would either argue about it or I have to cheer her up so I stopped bothering. It's just easier that way.

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Originally Posted by plainsong
"Women don't see the actual you, they see potential."


If it was the other way around, women would say "why don't you love me just the way i am?"
 
Mar 12, 2008 at 3:19 PM Post #60 of 91
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Originally Posted by plainsong /img/forum/go_quote.gif
...I'll quote a male friend of mine: "Women don't see the actual you, they see potential." - and I guess that's true.


Men marry women thinking they will never change. Women marry men thinking they will change.
 

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