Maybe it is time to put DAC's into new subforum?

[Tact]

and since when DAC is source? it is a piece of chips worthless without transport, it is like making forum about turntables into forum about tonearms only. it becomes boring for me, i know everyone will not agree, but i think DAC's should be placed into separate section.

 

[uzziah]

i can see your point


this would work for me:



1.source
1a. dac
1b. computer
1c. cdplayer etc.

makes sense to me

 

[Ampersand]

Amen!

I visit this subforum daily only to find threads on DACs!

Does anybody use a dedicated cd player anymore???

 

[alex_cs]

clearly, less and less

 

[rumatt]

What's a CD player?

 

[kool bubba ice]

DACs needs a separate forum..

 

[Garbz]

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Originally Posted by Ampersand Amen! I visit this subforum daily only to find threads on DACs! Does anybody use a dedicated cd player anymore???

Only the few of us who actually like listening to high quality music CDs in a quiet environment instead of a hotchbotch of equipment producing music from a computer

But if you start splitting up DACs and cdplayers and turntables and tonearms the forums will get very small and lonely. If you come here expecting a usual barrgae of DAC related questions you won't be disapointed

 

[Dept_of_Alchemy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garbz But if you start splitting up DACs and cdplayers and turntables and tonearms the forums will get very small and lonely. If you come here expecting a usual barrgae of DAC related questions you won't be disapointed

I agree. Head-Fi's value as a loafing tool would decrease substantially if there are more sub-sections. There is always the Search tool if someone is interested only in reading about DACs.

I quite like the variety in these more generalized forums.

 

[Mr.PD]

I haven't been in here in a long time until today. I am trying to find out about SACD/DVD audio players. I am not too happy wading through a bunch of DAC threads to find a thread about what I want to learn about. Besides, I thought DACs were for computer stuff as much as for CDPs.
I think there is enough interest in DACs to warrant another sub forum.

 

[Azure]

Well, the forum is called "Dedicated Source Components." But I can see what you mean and I wouldn't mind seeing DAC's in a sub-forum of some sort (It seems that this whole source forum is composed of ~80% DAC threads).

We already have a distinct forum just for computer-as-source components, so if we make a separate DAC sub-forum would we have to combine the 2 existing source forums into one (Since you can use a DAC with both CDPs/TTs and soundcards)?

 

[vcoheda]

I agree with this as well. If anything, DAC discussion should go in the computer section. I think when most people think about a source, they are referring to a stand alone CD player that already has a built in DAC.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[digitalmind]

Quote:

Originally Posted by vcoheda I agree with this as well. If anything, DAC discussion should go in the computer section. I think when most people think about a source, they are referring to a stand alone CD player that already has a built in DAC. Just my .02 cents.

Dacs are just aswell for cd players (or other transports) as for computers, placing them in the computer section would be a mistake.

Why should there be a seperate section for dacs? I understand that most of the threads here are actually about dacs, but that doesn't warrant a seperate subforum. Most of the posts in the headphone section are about dynamics, not about electrostats but is that a reason to give them a seperate subforum aswell? Dac's are exactly what this forum is about, along with all other source components other than soundcards or htpc's which belong in the computer section.

 

[Fitz]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampersand Amen! I visit this subforum daily only to find threads on DACs! Does anybody use a dedicated cd player anymore???

Mmm.. no! Viva la Squeezebox!

And I think the source subforum is perfectly happy as it is. But I don't usually read it so I guess my opinion doesn't count too heavily.

 

[jimholt]

Why not change the forum name from Head-Fi to Dac-Fi. Jim.

 

[Azure]

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalmind Why should there be a seperate section for dacs? I understand that most of the threads here are actually about dacs, but that doesn't warrant a seperate subforum. Most of the posts in the headphone section are about dynamics, not about electrostats but is that a reason to give them a seperate subforum aswell? Dac's are exactly what this forum is about, along with all other source components other than soundcards or htpc's which belong in the computer section.

There's a different distinction between electrostatic amp vs. dynamic amp and DAC vs. CDP/TT/"Full Source." An electrostatic amp is as much of an amp as is a dynamic amp (In the sense that they both take the same place in the signal chain and function similarly with regard to independence/dependence on other components). A DAC isn't as much of a source as is a TT or CDP. They don't occupy the same place in the signal chain and the DAC is a component of a CDP. Kind of like this:

Amplifiers:
Electrostatic
-SS
-Tube
Dynamic
-SS
-Tube

Sources:
Turntable
-Tonearm
-etc.
CDP
-DAC
-Output stage
-etc.

(Note, I'm not saying that's how this forum should be organized; that's just an example of what I was saying with regard to the electrostatic/dynamic amp relation being different compared to CDP/DAC relationship)

Of course you can use a DAC with a CDP, sound card, etc. but we already have a separate forum dedicated to computer-as-source components, and the vast majority of DAC discussion takes place outside the computer-as-source component forum.