@Wyville thank you for having this thread! Extremely valuable resource!
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Masters of Classical Music - A Wyville Original Review Series
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Thanks! It is really fun doing something different and great to hear that people enjoy it.@Wyville thank you for having this thread! Extremely valuable resource!
toaster
Headphoneus Supremus
...seen you make mention of this thread, but didn't know you actually started it back in december...not sure how i missed it. super cool and really great work.
thanks, @Wyville and barnie.
thanks, @Wyville and barnie.
This thread isn't super busy, so easy to miss. Just a little corner on Head-fi for those who enjoy classical music and (too) expensive gear....seen you make mention of this thread, but didn't know you actually started it back in december...not sure how i missed it. super cool and really great work.
thanks, @Wyville and barnie.
tgx78
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Dropping by to say hi and wanted mention that slightly tweaked UM 3DT is the best IEM for classical music for me right now beating Z1R, M9, Volt and Zen. Its tonality is near identical to my HD800 SDR with sonarworks. It also comes closest in terms of timbral coloration, precise imaging and soundstage size.
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Very interesting. What kind of tweaks did you make?Dropping by to say hi and wanted mention that slightly tweaked UM 3DT is the best IEM for classical music for me right now beating Z1R, M9, Volt and Zen. Its tonality is near identical to my HD800 SDR with sonarworks. It also comes closest in terms of timbral coloration, precise imaging and soundstage size.
Unfortunately, I don't have a way to get my hands on the 3DT at the moment, but I will keep an eye out for any opportunities.
tgx78
Member of the Trade: tgxear
Very interesting. What kind of tweaks did you make?
Unfortunately, I don't have a way to get my hands on the 3DT at the moment, but I will keep an eye out for any opportunities.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/uni...ouncement-thread.949402/page-25#post-16144105
gerelmx1986
Headphoneus Supremus
I listened to BTHVN 2020 Set, so its some new stuff both period and standard performances and has most of the original 1997 DG release, so ended keeping original 97 box, kept new discoveries or stuff not included on the original 96 release as well as period instruments performances. Of course lol, I upgraded these old covers to the new 2020 haha.
Sadly not the same i can say for Bach 333 box. It is a mess, I dare to say borderline mediocre in SQ and RQ (Recording quality)
.this mixing on a si gle disc of up to 5 artists/orchestras and from different labels makes it awful experience. This way you end up with CDs that have differing quality in sound and worse volume loudness differences, mostly loud.
Cantatas were ok some way too fast for my liking, e.g BWV 134 & 134a on their respective movements Wir loben und preisen deinen brunstiges Liebe / Es streiten, es siegen die künfigen Zeiten. So fast on Bach 333 , perfectly fine on Bachakademie (Hanssler).
Organ and keyboard were mostly sadly mediocre. From old harpsichord recordings with no reverb or distancing between instrument and microphone (boxy, dry sound, lack of room mic), use of old recordings or if good ones made loud n bass... (Gilbert, well tempered clavier, I have the original master from 89) my reference here are the recordings by hanssler Bachakademie edition, esp with Robert Hill, IMO one of the best harpsichord recordings with good mastering that even room mics were used
Sadly not the same i can say for Bach 333 box. It is a mess, I dare to say borderline mediocre in SQ and RQ (Recording quality)
.this mixing on a si gle disc of up to 5 artists/orchestras and from different labels makes it awful experience. This way you end up with CDs that have differing quality in sound and worse volume loudness differences, mostly loud.
Cantatas were ok some way too fast for my liking, e.g BWV 134 & 134a on their respective movements Wir loben und preisen deinen brunstiges Liebe / Es streiten, es siegen die künfigen Zeiten. So fast on Bach 333 , perfectly fine on Bachakademie (Hanssler).
Organ and keyboard were mostly sadly mediocre. From old harpsichord recordings with no reverb or distancing between instrument and microphone (boxy, dry sound, lack of room mic), use of old recordings or if good ones made loud n bass... (Gilbert, well tempered clavier, I have the original master from 89) my reference here are the recordings by hanssler Bachakademie edition, esp with Robert Hill, IMO one of the best harpsichord recordings with good mastering that even room mics were used
gerelmx1986
Headphoneus Supremus
Continuing on last post, after a server error, and admins removed my edit rights...
The orchestral and chamber works of the Bach 333 were also mixed bag that I only kept the bwv 1040.
Yhe bach 333 is a starter set for dummies, I don't consider a set to build a classical music library, not even for a noob audiophile. Is more of search-for-bew-stuff-then-throw-me-away.
I kept from this bachess 3.06GB or 9 self-made albums fom what I found good. The rest went to windows recycle bin. Entire set was 80.5GB.
From beethoven I kept 2.92GB from 36GB as an extension to my 96 edition, plus the cover art jpg upgrades
The orchestral and chamber works of the Bach 333 were also mixed bag that I only kept the bwv 1040.
Yhe bach 333 is a starter set for dummies, I don't consider a set to build a classical music library, not even for a noob audiophile. Is more of search-for-bew-stuff-then-throw-me-away.
I kept from this bachess 3.06GB or 9 self-made albums fom what I found good. The rest went to windows recycle bin. Entire set was 80.5GB.
From beethoven I kept 2.92GB from 36GB as an extension to my 96 edition, plus the cover art jpg upgrades
Have you had the chance to try the Final Audio a8000 by any chance?
They seem to be lauded for classical music quite often
What is your favourite that you've ever heard for classical / orchestral music?
I'm looking for an IEM mainly for film scores like Hans Zimmer.
They seem to be lauded for classical music quite often
What is your favourite that you've ever heard for classical / orchestral music?
I'm looking for an IEM mainly for film scores like Hans Zimmer.
Have you had the chance to try the Final Audio a8000 by any chance?
They seem to be lauded for classical music quite often
What is your favourite that you've ever heard for classical / orchestral music?
I'm looking for an IEM mainly for film scores like Hans Zimmer.
I could contribute my personal Classical specialists:
The EE Wraith is particularly well suited for orchestral classical music, cause he allows you to be in the role of the conductor and always have the overview, even if the musical score gets complex and crowded. his tonality is rather relaxed.
U18t, I like to use to listen to small ensemble classical music. My impression is, that he is suited rather for quartet than bigger arrangements.
U18t could be recommended, if you like a high resolving characteristic.
Erlkönig is kind of an allrounder with regard to his suitability for classical music, producing full bodied notes.
Only a rough overview.
I have not yet tried the A8000, but they are in the planning to include in the series later on. They came highly recommended for classical music and I hope I will be able to borrow them from a friend. Otherwise I will try and find a different solution to include them, as I am very curious.Have you had the chance to try the Final Audio a8000 by any chance?
They seem to be lauded for classical music quite often
What is your favourite that you've ever heard for classical / orchestral music?
I'm looking for an IEM mainly for film scores like Hans Zimmer.
Personally, I really enjoy the DITA Dream XLS with orchestral and especially film scores because they lay on the emotion quite strongly and are able to sweep me along with the music. Beethoven's 5th, which I used with the Dream XLS, at the transition from the third movement to the fourth feels like it could be from the Indiana Jones movies and I love how the Dream XLS sweep me along every time. A while back I also tested them specifically for film scores and thought it was wonderful.
That said, you might have different preferences. Do you have specific preferences in terms of warmth/brightness, stage dimensions, etc? What other IEMs do you like?
I have not heard any of those, but if I had the opportunity I would have liked to have included the U18t and Erlkönig as well because both have always been on my radar. Don't actually know the Wraith that well, but if I remember correctly @twister6 found that they benefitted from a very powerful source.I could contribute my personal Classical specialists:
The EE Wraith is particularly well suited for orchestral classical music, cause he allows you to be in the role of the conductor and always have the overview, even if the musical score gets complex and crowded. his tonality is rather relaxed.
U18t, I like to use to listen to small ensemble classical music. My impression is, that he is suited rather for quartet than bigger arrangements.
U18t could be recommended, if you like a high resolving characteristic.
Erlkönig is kind of an allrounder with regard to his suitability for classical music, producing full bodied notes.
Only a rough overview.
Don't actually know the Wraith that well, but if I remember correctly @twister6 found that they benefitted from a very powerful source.
Yes, I have to agree with you, here. Wraith is gaining with power. In my case the SP2000 as source is sufficient.
In terms of IEM’s there isn’t a whole lot of IEM’s that fit me so can’t comment on most classic choices like Solaris, u12t, Z1R, etcI have not yet tried the A8000, but they are in the planning to include in the series later on. They came highly recommended for classical music and I hope I will be able to borrow them from a friend. Otherwise I will try and find a different solution to include them, as I am very curious.
Personally, I really enjoy the DITA Dream XLS with orchestral and especially film scores because they lay on the emotion quite strongly and are able to sweep me along with the music. Beethoven's 5th, which I used with the Dream XLS, at the transition from the third movement to the fourth feels like it could be from the Indiana Jones movies and I love how the Dream XLS sweep me along every time. A while back I also tested them specifically for film scores and thought it was wonderful.
That said, you might have different preferences. Do you have specific preferences in terms of warmth/brightness, stage dimensions, etc? What other IEMs do you like?
In terms of headphones, I really enjoy the hd800 as a classical but I also like the more musical ZMF Verite Closed (= my most used headphone)
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