Magnepan setup in dedicated room.

Nov 16, 2013 at 9:47 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 5

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Hey just wondering if there is any magnepan sound expertise out there, for my constructive criticism.
Looking at the new mini maggies, or a pair of 20.7 used(although a bit intimidating looking for transportation).
 
How much room will the speakers fill? Are there better options for the depth and perception in speakers? Carpet floor vs hardwood in regards to this sound signature?
I take it an ODAC can't amp these, edumacation on what kindof amp power would be needed for this prospective setup.
 
Peace, universal love.
 
Nov 16, 2013 at 10:06 PM Post #2 of 5
Carpet floor vs hardwood in regards to this sound signature?

Hey, its great your paying attention to room treatment. I see so many pictures on the internet of systems where people have spent huge amounts of money without giving it any thought. 'Carpet vs hardwood floor' really depends on your specific room though. First thing you should do is get some bass traps and treat the area right between your speakers. See how things sound and move from there I would say.
 
Nov 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM Post #3 of 5
Hey just wondering if there is any magnepan sound expertise out there, for my constructive criticism.
Looking at the new mini maggies, or a pair of 20.7 used(although a bit intimidating looking for transportation).

How much room will the speakers fill? Are there better options for the depth and perception in speakers? Carpet floor vs hardwood in regards to this sound signature?
I take it an ODAC can't amp these, edumacation on what kindof amp power would be needed for this prospective setup.

Peace, universal love.


I have done a lot of tinkering with my Maggie's and think I've finally got a great set up.

I have mine in a fairly large room, I think it's ~20x8x12. I think Martin Logan actually has better depth and sound staging than Maggie's, but Maggie's are no slouch and Maggie's excell in other areas. Carpet flooring will sound better, sharper transients and impulse response. When I moved to my new apt which has wood floors I had to invest in a nice rug, bass traps, diffusers, and absorbers and it's still not better acoustics than my carpeted apt. Mini Maggie's need a sub IMO and DSP is very helpful. Lastly for power, I have heard alot amps with my mini Maggie's. I think high bias class AB amps with lots of current sound best e.g. Parasound halo a21, odyssey audio stratos, and bryston 4bsst^2. That being said a number of class D amps sounded pretty good as well, but I still prefer the class ab e.g. Peach tree grand x1 and nova125. I'd stay above 100 watts, more if using them in a big room or at loud volumes.

Check out the mini Maggie thread... I have posted there many times as I built my system
http://www.head-fi.org/t/620289/magnepan-mini-maggie-desktop-speaker-system/45#post_9662523
 
Nov 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM Post #4 of 5
Obviously a huge difference between the two types of set ups.  20.7s will eat up a lot of space if you place them a third of the way into the room as recommended.  Alternately, if you go with Mini-Maggies, as mentioned above I would ensure better low frequency with 2 DWM panels.  Balance within the room is pretty important, making sure to have as symmetric layout as possible for even side wall reflections.
 
Depending upon your room layout, effective bass trapping and diffusor layout can give a really even response.
 
Finally, they are current-demanding speakers.  I had really bad luck with D-class amps, as the Maggies are ruthlessly revealing of the quality of upstream gear (especially the bigger ones, like the 3.7s and 20.7s), so D-class just don't sound as good as a better quality A or AB amp.
 
 
edited to add: if going big, my highest recommendation is to add Maggie speaker stands from Mye Sound. Grant is great to deal with and makes a fantastic product for a reasonable price.
 
Nov 17, 2024 at 1:29 AM Post #5 of 5
I just wanted to tell you all right before buying the LRS non + versions used, the voice of god just showed me the new Susvara Unveiled model ad. It's all perfectly clear to me now: A dedicated headphone line from my DAC's output, choosing the he 66.7 conductible silver score kings while keeping the fast but coldly analytical balance in tact, high purity silver, for all it's cabling, and planar drivers, for the best of why drivers that lose impact, including adding artificial impact by being encased, ultra high speeds, with a simultaneous dedicated speaker line wired with traditional high purity copper, so that I lose speed and get the women all hot more easily, as long as they never hear my headphones, but especially my favorite artists, otherwise they'll actually start never needing men for that anyways, either.
Diamond Head's track ending in a Am I Evil? could be angry about how their genre turned glam rock, instead, except that's a lazy thing to do it for, asking a question, isn't it? Meanwhile, the bomb exploding back where it all began first, the Moses of mean people doesn't have to worry about that, once it's been the little boys, it has to be worse than skinhead criminals to everyone else. Don't worry, world, they old world were always skinheads criminally, the Americans fought the natives of the New World, and the old world went Mohican REVIVAL because of their little boy's versions of everything that will ever happen first.
This is why Watson was the actual great person when it comes to speaker transmission. Everyone knows Watson's the guy we all actually have to prove it really is, and he even gets with the women all the time, just to help prove it's already him even more than anyone else will be, if they think it's still just those fags to everyone else all the time guys like AG Bell. That guy only ever wants to call home to mama and cry like a baby to her about what we all make him put up with, I heard. Talk about next after fire, not even that guy who came up with how to get the Egyptian Pyramids built, right?
But hey, if it turns out in 1978 you're a poet who just found out that you've actually been losing to the fighter Roberto Duran all this time for the past 10 years anyways, and you're about to come up with a name for your chick-magnet band, why not just give it to Duran before, and therefore after, instead? :wink:
Oh, and that's the secret reason there will always be desert-dwellers: It turns out that anywhere in the world, you just have to dig your own hole deep enough to get to some water, and that's why only Archimedes insists that the discovery you call the Archimedes Screw was the one that originated from the Persians, so some of them do try to keep up. Has anyone else ever heard of the Persian name for that royal screw, or did only Archimedes not enforce that name, we don't know how he got it too.
That's why Henry Rollins was a good other performer to invite on the original Lollapalooza festival, the 9-inch Nails were the only other performer Rollins wanted to stand to the backstage side and watch from there, and it made Reznor have to start smashing the keyboard, and then the drum kit next after that. Embarrassing for those studio guys who got to open at a stadium also with all of that stuff for a change, for sure. Henry got to be like Raging Bull the way he looks for, haha, nice. Oh right, you're with Magnepan speakers. You won't actually care about volume level blasting, will you? Except I bet your amp's dynamics still keep on showing off slightly better until 2:00 on your volume dial, right? Hey wait, does the lower impedance number mean turning your amp up to 2:00 is harder than for the others? Shouldn't Magnepan figure out how to get higher resistance speakers, so that your amps can also be at their optimum performance of 2:00 during normal use?
Oh, and here's my other thing besides the voice of god telling me that my headphones are the way of the future of non-dynamic drivers, because of their trading of dynamic attack for my long term hearing ability factor. Ever since Magnepan released the original LRS model, to represent the new entry-level maggies which feature all the lessons learned by Magnepan since the 1970's, and set a new record for industry reviewers and consumers, and then their next new model after that was the slightly improved a way Magnepan is avoiding specifying, but the + model beat the original LRS model a way comparisons all agreed with, except that they don't want to talk about exactly what they did differently to make an improvement after all of that, how do all currently existing Magnepan owners feel about their own models, from the expensive top end, down to the simple LRS? I am, however, still tempted to get the Maggie's next, because my HD800's already won the headphone dynamic driver speed award until >3k, and it will be a long time until I try the $2k or $2500 planar version from HiFi man or someone else, but I don't want to have to have an electrostatic's amp to drive them. Is it going to turn out that the Stax electrostatic people already buy the aftermarket electrostatic amps because they actually like more of the higher speaker power part than the usual speakers, since they're just slowpokes anyways? If you had standard dynamic driver speakers on your amp first, then swap to Magnepan's, what setting would the same loudness at the new smaller but sweeter spot be on my volume dial be at? If a stage behind your speakers the same size as the venue who's stage got mic'ed is the ideal positioning for analog recordings, don't electrified instruments using pickups mean that an amp driving a headphone presentation will rule? This is why I'm the other way around about headphones vs speakers from Magnepan, although the used LRS is my right next price until the Planar headphones that will have to wait until these HD800's break for good, except then I will end up deciding to sell the LRS, to to fund trading the speakers back to also including the fastest dynamic driver speed best speakers for their price, the Vandersteen's. Also since the 1970's, LOL! But, after I get the $2500k headphones, will I want the speakers from 10 years earlier that cost less than those? The performance difference for having to be large loudspeakers will be more expensive than the headphone competitor will be, speakers will lose until I don't want my headphone cable, or someone else could always come along, no matter how into Planar headphones I get. But then, with it's silver IC's including the fast but cold realities of life, my Planar headphone rig will be off limits to any guests, a special woman, most of all. There is no chance in hell she will get to monitor her favorite tracks on my new Planar headphone and silver cabling chain. Apparently, the new $8k Susvara Unveiled model is not keeping reviewers from making me assume to send them in to Sonarworks for their custom EQ for the last little bit of exact correction for my pair of headphones file, for 150 Euro's per pair. Except, since Sonarworks is probably supposed to EQ the output jack of their amp first, so that it could even be a crummy amp and cabling rig, all my gear before my headphones will measure wrong, even though it's never as wrong as speakers or headphones. For the 8k headphones, at some point, how much is a dummy head and two mic's with calibration files for each ear?
 
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