[MatsudaMan]

So, I lost my ety er4p's and now looking to replace them. While I really liked them, I found them somewhat on the cold/analytical side. I loved how they retrieved detail from recordings, but I often wanted a little more richness ( ie mid-bass-lowbass). I've never really heard the competition, but since I'm in the market, I'm kind of curious again.

I love Classical. I'd say I listen to 90 percent Classical 10 percent everything else. I've heard ultimate ears don't have the kind of detail ety's have. What about Shure?

I kind of have a feeling people are going to tell me to just stick with the er4p. Definitely willing to listen to some opinions!

 

[tstarn06]

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Originally Posted by MatsudaMan /img/forum/go_quote.gif So, I lost my ety er4p's and now looking to replace them. While I really liked them, I found them somewhat on the cold/analytical side. I loved how they retrieved detail from recordings, but I often wanted a little more richness ( ie mid-bass-lowbass). I've never really heard the competition, but since I'm in the market, I'm kind of curious again. I love Classical. I'd say I listen to 90 percent Classical 10 percent everything else. I've heard ultimate ears don't have the kind of detail ety's have. What about Shure? I kind of have a feeling people are going to tell me to just stick with the er4p. Definitely willing to listen to some opinions!

I like both the Atrio M5s and the Altec-Lansing IM616s (which have Ety drivers, and even can use Ety filters). In fact, I just got the 616s and I like them more than I thought I would. I also had the ER4Ps, and kept A/B testing them with the M5s, and found the latter had a better sound sig (to my ears), with much a warmer, less fatiguing delivery (but certainly not the 4P/S detail in the mids and highs). So now, after several misses (see my sig), I believe I have what I was searching for. I have never tried any Sure or UE phones, so I can't speak to them. But for $80, the 616s have a nice, bassier sound than the 4Ps, though others say the 716s are even better (not willing to spend more to find out).

I use foam tips, not flanges, with IEMs.

If you don't need isolation, then I also can recommend the Yuin PK1 w/amp combo. These are ear buds, but their sound is detailed, and great soundstage. But the NEED an amp to really shine.

Check out this review on the PK1s
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showpo...12&postcount=3

Just read about any of these models on head-fi, for more info. THe Atrio thread is a monster, not so the 616s. Same with PK1 thread (tons of posts).

 

[Antony6555]

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Originally Posted by MatsudaMan /img/forum/go_quote.gif I kind of have a feeling people are going to tell me to just stick with the er4p.

Yeah I think that the general consensus is that they er-4s are the best phones for Classical. Neither Ultimate Ears or Shures will probably be as good for Classical (unless you go custom), though UE will probably be better than Shure. I know from personal experience that Shures are not comparable to the er-4s for Classical. All Shures have rolled off highs-I had the e500s and sold them to get the er-4s, which has far more detailed highs and better instrument seperation. The atrios and pk1 will have a warmer, less detailed sound. The im616 is basically a cheaper version of the er-4.

I think the er-4 is the best iem for Classical. I'm a big Classical afficionado as well and these are definetly my favorite iems. You might want to try the er-4s instead of the p. It will have more detail and can still be driven well from most portable devices (I use mine with my ipod).