Looking for a new DAP

[sbradley02]

I have used Fiio DAPs for several years and have been reasonably happy. I currently have an X5ii. Recently I have been wanting to use shuffle play and the Fiio implementation is pretty much useless.
The Sony 45 series looks interesting, but with only 7mW into my Beyer's 80 ohm impedance (and medium efficiency), I don't think it will cut it, I listen on the plane and need a fair amount of output.
There seems to be three categories of DAPs:
1. Great UI but low powered, reasonable cost
2. High powered but poor UI, reasonable cost
3. Great UI and high powered, high cost

Is there anything with good output power, an excellent UI (with real shuffle play that is easy to use) but which doesn't cost over around $600? This may be a non-existent product.

Thanks

 

[artpiggo]

Hiby R6

Opus 1

 

[szore]

I have used Fiio DAPs for several years and have been reasonably happy. I currently have an X5ii. Recently I have been wanting to use shuffle play and the Fiio implementation is pretty much useless.
The Sony 45 series looks interesting, but with only 7mW into my Beyer's 80 ohm impedance (and medium efficiency), I don't think it will cut it, I listen on the plane and need a fair amount of output.
There seems to be three categories of DAPs:
1. Great UI but low powered, reasonable cost
2. High powered but poor UI, reasonable cost
3. Great UI and high powered, high cost

Is there anything with good output power, an excellent UI (with real shuffle play that is easy to use) but which doesn't cost over around $600? This may be a non-existent product.

Thanks

What about the M11, or a used sr15?

 

[sbradley02]

What about the M11, or a used sr15?

SR15 is only 5mW into 80 olms.
The M11 has plenty of power, but I thought all Fiio DAPs had the same poor quality shuffle issue.

 

[szore]

SR15 is only 5mW into 80 olms.
The M11 has plenty of power, but I thought all Fiio DAPs had the same poor quality shuffle issue.

I see.

 

[artpiggo]

SR15 is only 5mW into 80 olms.
The M11 has plenty of power, but I thought all Fiio DAPs had the same poor quality shuffle issue.

Download neutron music player. Shuffle will be better.

 

[DankAudio]

I second the Fiio M11

 

[sbradley02]

Download neutron music player. Shuffle will be better.

Thanks. With Neutron, does shuffle just work, no playlists needed?

 

[DankAudio]

I recommend poweramp over neutron for the fiio m11

 

[artpiggo]

Thanks. With Neutron, does shuffle just work, no playlists needed?

Yes. Try eval version.

 

[sbradley02]

I recommend poweramp over neutron for the fiio m11

Why Poweramp over Neutron?

 

[Hooster]

LG V20, love it. Fantastic HQ, great UI, works as a smartphone and costs next to nothing.

 

[sbradley02]

LG V20, love it. Fantastic HQ, great UI, works as a smartphone and costs next to nothing.

After some digging I found the output power, if Android Authority can be believed, I calculate 50mW into 80ohms which is substantial. Interesting product.
I am tending towards the M11 but the V20 certainly is high on the price/performance scale.

 

[Hooster]

You don't say. I got a refurbished one for $90 . Hard to go wrong at that price.

 

[duaned]

Cayin N5II.