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Nov 20, 2010 at 9:00 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 31

Happy Camper

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I'm still tearing down and rebuilding so I'll get to some comments in a bit. Thank you to all who attended for making a listening opportunity so much fun.
 
Anyone else, feel free.....
 
Nov 20, 2010 at 10:25 PM Post #2 of 31
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I'm still tearing down and rebuilding so I'll get to some comments in a bit. Thank you to all who attended for making a listening opportunity so much fun.
 
Anyone else, feel free.....

You Bet HC, !st, Thanks so much for all your Pre-Meet planning/organizing etc.etc. so we Buck-Eyes would have another great Meet!  We had another outstanding group of Guy's and Some mighty Fine Equipment, to listen to and discuss our preferences!.I would like to personally thank the "Loaners" for the Ref.7 Dac and  emelius, for his loan of the Audeze LCD-2 Headphones, We all enjoyed them....Bubu1, HD 800's with his Headroom Stack was sounding "Killer",as always! HC has some magic going on with his Single Power, AKG 701's.(Sound like no other 701's) that I've heard....SMOOOTH!  And I must comment on one pleasant Fellow (sorry forgot his name) but I lost count of the Headphones he brought.....I know I counted a doz.Pr's. of Senns...Denons, Akg's Audio-Tech's etc..etc..(what guy's, maybe 35Pr's or more??.. We all had a nice mix of Disc based systems along with the "New School" sounds from Laptops (Tweaked, mind you)...I'll let some others comment and share their thoughts!  I ask for forgiveness for my photos....But please enjoy them and thanks again Happy Camper and the rest of a great group of guy's..   Duke 
 
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 3:58 PM Post #3 of 31
It was great getting so see all the old faces again, and also getting to meet the new folks.
 
One of the stars of the show was the LCD-2. Now i knew i loved this phone ahead of time, after hearing it for quite a while at canjam. but its just as good as i remembered it being. Here i got to try it on more amps than i did at canjam though. I tried it on my little Audio GD sparrow first, which actually powered it better than i thought it would, i was about halfway on the volume, and since it was the first thing i was listening to it on, it sounded pretty good, lacking a bit in the deepest bass and not as effortless as it could have sounded, but still very good. then i moved over to Duke's rig with it, listening through his old monarchy dac and his custom tube amp, and holy cow, its like the sound stage just blew open. everything i listened to expanded around me so much better than on my little sparrow. I really think it was the amp, Duke's new tube amp is pretty much amazing. It was certainly the best amp i heard the LCD-2's on at the meet, though David's SP Extreme did a pretty good job as well.
 
Speaking of duke's amp, it was pretty much amazing. first thing i listened to on it was my JH-13's. After only listening to the Audio GD sparrow for the last 3 or 4 months now, going to something this high end again was kind of startling. There was so much more air and space between instruments, larger soundstage. the only problem with using the JH-13's with it though, was i think there was a bit of a impedance mismatch, and so there was some bass roll off with the 13's, so while it was a great amp, i still wouldnt recommend it for iem's. But as i stated above it was wonderful with the LCD-2's. My only small gripe with the amp was that it used two separate mono attenuators rather that a single 2 gang pot.
 
The other star of the show was the REF-7. i didnt get to listen to it before the DSP upgrade, but afterwards, it was brilliant. this dac did everything great. Deeeeeeep bass, paired with the LCD-2's the bass was freaking unreal. the soundstage was collosal. And physically the dac is ginormous, its huge, and weighs about two tons. then you take the lid off, and you can really see what your paying for, this thing is packed with components, its electronics porn at its best, a thing of symmetrical beauty. When we finally paired it with Duke's amp, it lit up the LCD-2's like something else. I really wanted to try my JH-13's with the REF-7, but i didnt get a chance to, though im sure it wouldnt have dissappointed me at all. overall its the best dac ive ever heard and if i werent getting the JH-3A's, which means i dont need a dac or amp, i would get be getting one for sure.
 
There was another amp from a company called DB labs. the designer came with his two kids to show us the dac. it was a NOS design and it only took USB input that wasnt asynch as far as i could tell. the designer, i dont remember his name, certainly talked it up quite a bit. i walked over to the table where it was hooked up to david's SP extreme, and he said to me that i had to hear his dac that it was "helacious", i took this with a grain of salt as his tiny little silver box sat atop the monolithic REF-7 and i plugged in my macbook and the LCD-2's to give it a listen. It did nothing but disappoint. it had no deep bass, the soundstaging didnt impress either. at first i wasnt sure whether these problems were the SP extreme, cause it was the first time id heard the LCD-2's on the amp, but all of the problems disappeared when we plugged the SP extreme into the REF-7 so thats when i knew that it was the dac that wasnt good, not david's amp.
 
One thing i got to listen to that i wasnt expecting to see there was the iQube portable amp, chris(i dont remember his forum name) brought his with him, and i took the chance to plug it into my iPhone with my whiplash LOD and plugged in my JH-13's. The amp was very impressive, it didnt hiss like most portable amps that ive heard. At even the lowest volume level there was a ever so slight hiss, that wasnt realy a hiss, but its volume didnt change no matter what volume i set the amp too, there wasnt the gradual increase in hiss as the volume went up, and the ever so slight hiss that was there, didnt bother me at all. This amp has bass! authoritative, deep, very well textured. Maybe not quite up to par with the protector in balanced mode, but very impressive nonetheless. i liked it much better than the pico slim with my 13's. i know its kind of moot that i listened to it since i plan on getting the 3A's and wont need an amp, but it was a portable that i had always been curious about.
 
It was also great getting to chat with everyone, meeting new people. Duke brought along a friend of his, that was a huge source of knowledge chatting about speaker rigs, and i cant wait to get the chance to head back down to cincy and check out his system. even got to chat about books for a while with david which was cool. and everyone making fun of my choice in music, and even getting some of them older guys to check out some DragonForce!! which is fast but fairly innocuous as far as metal goes considering the singing style. though Duke was convinced that the drummer couldnt actually play that fast, though i repeatedly assured him that he could. and i feel like i hogged the pictures there Duke, im more of them than anyone else!
 
 
Also a HUGE!!! thank you to emelius for letting us borrow your LCD-2's, it was a great pleasure to get to listen to them again.
 
i cant wait for the next one guys!!
 
and tom, one thing i was hoping to be able to do at the meet was try the modded hiface on my laptop, but never got around to it, if some weekend you wouldnt mind getting together so i can check it out with my crazy music and rig id be greatly appreciative :D                                                                                                                                                                            
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 3:59 PM Post #4 of 31
Great meet!  Glad we were able to get together.  Many thanks to Happy Camper for getting this all set up.  It's always a blast getting to hear everyone's gear.
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 4:00 PM Post #5 of 31


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Great meet!  Glad we were able to get together.  Many thanks to Happy Camper for getting this all set up.  It's always a blast getting to hear everyone's gear.



loved getting to share some music with you, hopefully you get a chance to check out Aenima and Laterallus in more depth down the road!
 
Edit: does anyone remember the name of that mac music player the guy from DB labs was talking about that was free and he said was better than iTunes and pure? i thought it was audiovana but i couldnt find anything on google under than name
 
Edit 2: just found it, it was audirvana, heres a link to what i think is the main thread for it
 
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/New-OSX-Opensource-audiophile-player-Audirvana
 
it even does automatic sample rate switching, for free...
 
Nov 21, 2010 at 11:59 PM Post #6 of 31
Very fun time (for the little bit I was there). I am certainly more hungry than ever to finish my headphone rig.
 
Thanks a ton for everyone's generosity and insight. I'm currently in Sioux Falls SD (why I had to jump ship so soon), but I'm hoping to get the pics uploaded soon.
 
Nov 22, 2010 at 11:53 AM Post #8 of 31


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and tom, one thing i was hoping to be able to do at the meet was try the modded hiface on my laptop, but never got around to it, if some weekend you wouldnt mind getting together so i can check it out with my crazy music and rig id be greatly appreciative :D                                                                                                                                                                            


Chase,
No problem.  I think it would be fun to have a listen!!  PM me!
Good to see you again and always fun chatting about our diverse music interests
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HC,
Thanks for a great meet.  It was great to meet some new people and chat about music and equipment and such.  We had some truly great equipment there!!
Headphone wise it was great to finally hear the LCD-2's.  Many thanks emelius for loaning us your babies for the weekend.  Unfortunately for me, they were not very comfortable.  That was a big detractor for me with these headphones.  Soundwise, it is a very capable headphone and I think it deserves recognition as such.  For me the sound signature was not to my liking since I listen to a fair amount of classical music and for this the hd800's are killer and hard to beat for this genre of music IMO.  I did listen briefly to some music of superknowva's on duke's rig with the ref-7 and I thought that it sounded great so I can understand with certain genres of music this 'phone would be killer. 
 
I also got to listen to the DT880 2003 edition on Woo amp and thought that it was a wonderful sounding headphone.  It is much less harsh sounding in the treble range than the new version.  I really liked this version of the 880's. 
 
I also did listen to the ref-7 before and after the V5 module change.  I think that this is a very fine DAC.  It is large, well built and and has very good electronic components.  That being said, it did not wow me.  It seemed also to me that it was a bit on the bright side after the module change (HC can you confirm this?).  This is a fine piece of audio equipment, and a solid offering at this price point especially for a 1704 based DAC.  (HC PM me if you set up a mini meet as I would like to hear this again!)
 
I also really liked the woo amps (we had a 22 and a 3; it was the first time I was able to hear woo pieces)  that I listened to and both are excellent sounding and well built amps. It's a good thing that I'm not into tubes!
 
HC's single power amp driving his K701's always brings a smile to my face and really shows how good these headphones can sound!!!!
 
Finally, Dukes "home brewed" tube amp is amazing.  I've listened to it before, but coupled with his oppo player and my 800s listening to some hi rez recordings of Diana Krall ( I'm not sure if they were DVD-A or SACD), I had goosebumps.  This is a killer setup!
 
 
Thanks to all for a great meet!  I had a blast and we should definitely try to schedule another one in the near future!!!
 
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Nov 22, 2010 at 9:56 PM Post #11 of 31
SoupRKnowva,,                QUOTE:  and everyone making fun of my choice in music, and even getting some of them older guys to check out some DragonForce!! which is fast but fairly innocuous as far as metal goes considering the singing style. though Duke was convinced that the drummer couldn't actually play that fast, though i repeatedly assured him that he could. and i feel like i hogged the pictures there Duke, I'm more of them than anyone else!.........................................OK Chase, I'll Give you all the credit for your "DRAGONFORCE" drummer really playing' that fast!!!!Everything I Googled about him said the same thing, "He's Just That GOOD...........So, see you can teach an OLD DOG new tricks......PS great seeing you again...Keep in touch.       Maybe (Dmac03) will post his pic's, when he gets home.....I liked his Equipment......duke            
 
Nov 23, 2010 at 12:16 AM Post #12 of 31


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SoupRKnowva,,                QUOTE:  and everyone making fun of my choice in music, and even getting some of them older guys to check out some DragonForce!! which is fast but fairly innocuous as far as metal goes considering the singing style. though Duke was convinced that the drummer couldn't actually play that fast, though i repeatedly assured him that he could. and i feel like i hogged the pictures there Duke, I'm more of them than anyone else!.........................................OK Chase, I'll Give you all the credit for your "DRAGONFORCE" drummer really playing' that fast!!!!Everything I Googled about him said the same thing, "He's Just That GOOD...........So, see you can teach an OLD DOG new tricks......PS great seeing you again...Keep in touch.       Maybe (Dmac03) will post his pic's, when he gets home.....I liked his Equipment......duke            



wait....you know how to use google???? who'da thought 
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and yeah we do, let me know when your available for that speaker listen, still need to hear your main rig buddy!
 
Nov 23, 2010 at 3:55 AM Post #13 of 31
 
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Hey Now,
 
It was great to meet all you guys. I had a blast for my first meet, sooooo many headphones to try out with some nice rigs. I loved the LCD2s and the HD800s, go figure. Listening to those tubes amps with the Ref 7 was a revelation. I had not experienced sound like that before. It was terrific. Here are some photos of the meet >>
 
Baby Woooooo and old's kool Beyer (2003) - nbourbaki 

 
iPad as music server > uDAC usb/spdif > coax > Opus DAC
 

 
The BEAST - REF 7
 

 
Chase's minimalist approach to clean sound 8^)
 

 
Oooooooo headphones to try out, no Woooooo and headphones!
 

 
Duke's killer rig (Chris Ivan custom amp??)
 

 
Tom's balanced HD800 set up with JKeny Hiface mod
 

 
Ref 7 and Wooooooooooo
 

 
Happy Camper (David), Dmac03 (Derek) and SoupRKnowva (Chase) with LCD2s
 

 
Bubu1 (Tom) and nbourbaki (Charles)
 

 
Gary ??? (sorry), 9pintube (Duke) and Mark the headphone guy
 

 
David and Goliath - Goliath won hands down 8^)
 

 
Switching and swapping . . . . .
 

 
Swapping and switching . . . . .
 

 
Drum roll . . . . . .
 

 
Best of Meet  . . . . REF 7 and Chris Ivan custom tube amp!
 

 
Now let's try those LCD2s again . . . . . .
 

 
Headphones anyone?
 

 
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The Beast's innards . . . . . .
 

 
Sorry for the late posting of the pics. I had a great time. Would love to do it again. Thanks.
 
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Nov 23, 2010 at 6:55 AM Post #14 of 31
Great Photos and comments Chris, It was nice meeting and talking to you....I'm sure we'll do it again soon.......!!!Take care....PS....HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all!!!  duke, Thanks again Happy Camper (David)!! 
 
Nov 23, 2010 at 6:31 PM Post #15 of 31
Man, Mark had a lot of headphones. Unfortunately too many things to try and too little time. I have to say that after the LCD-2, PS-1000 and HD 800, nothing else sounded quite as good. The HD650 out of Duke's amp being an exception (balanced snobs).
 

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