[Cho Worsh]

I saw this ad for a 6922 to 12AU7 adapter::
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-Conver...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Has anyone used this adapter or will someone recommend another source for an adapter that they have used with ECC82 tubes on the LP?

Thank you so much TK16 for the idea of using the adapters and 12AU7/ECC82 tubes in the LP.
Yes, I read Mr. Cavalli's caveats and they kept me from trying 12AU7's for a while.
But what the heck, I had to try them and I am glad that I did.
Even the cheap Lowrey organ branded 12AU7 tubes sound better to me in the LP than any of the pricey NOS 6DJ8/6922 family tubes that I tried.

 

[TK16]

Thank you so much TK16 for the idea of using the adapters and 12AU7/ECC82 tubes in the LP.
Yes, I read Mr. Cavalli's caveats and they kept me from trying 12AU7's for a while.
But what the heck, I had to try them and I am glad that I did.
Even the cheap Lowrey organ branded 12AU7 tubes sound better to me in the LP than any of the pricey NOS 6DJ8/6922 family tubes that I tried.

I hear you, adapter tubes are my favorites. Very few 6922`s left only holy grails.
Lots of LP owners in the Lyr tube rolling thread. Great community.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers.673709/page-1453

 

[smodak]

Yep, love me some Siemens PCC189 tubes but the Telefunken PCC189 were too polite and a bit boring. The Siemens PCC189 are buttery smooth, clear and rich and they pleased me more than any of the 6922 variants I tried in my LP (including Telefunken E88CC or ECC88, Amperex whilte label USA 7308, NOS Mullards, Brimars, Tungsram, et al). Maybe someday you will be bold enough to try 12AU7/ECC82 tubes with adapters which you may like much more in your LP than any tube from the 6DJ8/6922 family.

Thanks. How would you differentiate the sound from 6922 and 12AU7 - signature-wise?

 

[Cho Worsh]

Thanks. How would you differentiate the sound from 6922 and 12AU7 - signature-wise?

Wow, I can only say the 12AU7 tubes are a lot more lifelike and fun to listen to for me. But I have always been a bigger fan of 12AU7 and 12AX7 and 6SN7 driver tubes than I have been of the 6922 tubes I've used. Maybe there are some holy grail 6922's that I would like better with the LP but I haven't heard them yet. Brent Jessee indicated that some of the NOS PCC189 tubes rival the very best 6922's ever made so maybe that 's why I like them so much. It's hard to say.

 

[Wes S]

Wow, I can only say the 12AU7 tubes are a lot more lifelike and fun to listen to for me. But I have always been a bigger fan of 12AU7 and 12AX7 and 6SN7 driver tubes than I have been of the 6922 tubes I've used. Maybe there are some holy grail 6922's that I would like better with the LP but I haven't heard them yet. Brent Jessee indicated that some of the NOS PCC189 tubes rival the very best 6922's ever made so maybe that 's why I like them so much. It's hard to say.

Just wondering, what 6922's you have tried?

 

[Cho Worsh]

Just wondering, what 6922's you have tried?

Since buying the LP last November, I can recall using: Telefunken E88CC, Telefunken ECC88, Amperex whilte label USA 7308, Amperex green tip medical grade 6922, Mullard CV2493 , Brimar gold pin 6922, Tungsram 6922.

 

[Wes S]

Since buying the LP last November, I can recall using: Telefunken E88CC, Telefunken ECC88, Amperex whilte label USA 7308, Amperex green tip medical grade 6922, Mullard CV2493 , Brimar gold tip 6922, Tungsram 6922.

Cool.

 

[sfc1985221]

hello,

Would you pls let me know where you get the adaptors for WE396A? Can you pls share with me? Thanks!

I haven't heard the Ether 2 personally, only have the Massdrop Ether Cx. Depending on your music, preference in sound sig & what the E2 cans actually sound like, based on what I have read my guess is that Ether 2 will probably like similar tubes to the HE1000SE on the LP.

I have rolled the following in the LP:
E188CC Philips SQ by Mullard
Brimar E88CC
1975 SWGP Reflektor
Tesla E88CC crossed swords
New prod Gold Lions
Western Electric 396A
Amperex USA 6922 orange globe

Of the lot, the two I like best with the HE1000SE:
- WE396A. These have the biggest 'heft' to the sound, not just in bass but every note. A thicker body to the sound, more engaging.
- The Philips/Mullard E188CC. These have sweet female vocals, great highs but IMHO this doesnt like anything remotely rock related with headphones that are really revealing

The amperex USA 6922 orange globe gets an honourable mention from duty in my Massdrop CTH, may not be the best at anything in particular but has a fun sound signature, very listenable.

I also have 12au7 to 6922 adaptors and a huge collection of 12au7 tubes from the Cayin amp that I could roll in the LP as some here have done, but I prefer to pick a baseline with the LP tubes, then fine-tune via the Freya tube pre-amp. A/B is very easy as I can go from passive/active to tube stage in a couple of button presses.

Note on WE396A - the US made HQ adaptors didnt work for me. Mrs Xu's did. I also had to buy 3 pairs of WE396A before I found one pair that was quiet enough in the LP. The other tubes worked fine in tube buffer output stage of a DAC, but just too noisy for the LP.

 

[nwavesailor]

hello,

Would you pls let me know where you get the adaptors for WE396A? Can you pls share with me? Thanks!

Here are the US made adapters:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GARAGE1217...639705?hash=item3d66f99cd9:g:9MEAAOSw~SlbDGM0
These worked fine for me with 2 pairs of WE 2C51 but I think perhaps I was lucky and got quiet tubes.

I'm pretty sure this is the maker of the adapters that UsoppNoKani used to allow the WE tubes to used in the LP and to do so quietly.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2pc-Gold-p...111735?hash=item2c9e670177:g:~IoAAOSw~OVWwGvh

 

[sfc1985221]

Thank you for your sharing,guy

Here are the US made adapters:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GARAGE1217...639705?hash=item3d66f99cd9:g:9MEAAOSw~SlbDGM0
These worked fine for me with 2 pairs of WE 2C51 but I think perhaps I was lucky and got quiet tubes.

I'm pretty sure this is the maker of the adapters that UsoppNoKani used to allow the WE tubes to used in the LP and to do so quietly.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2pc-Gold-p...111735?hash=item2c9e670177:g:~IoAAOSw~OVWwGvh

 

[sahmen]

I just bought a couple of these adapters from Tube mongers to use with my LP :

This is what they say on the page:

"12Axx to ECC88 adapter will let you use common tubes like 12AX7/ECC83, 12U7/ECC82 and 12AT7/ECC81 and other tubes with same pinouts as 12AX7 in ECC88/6DJ8 amps.

For example you can use this adapter to Plug in 12AX7/ECC83, 12U7/ECC82 and 12AT7/ECC81 in ECC88 based Schiit Lyr 2, Vali 2 or Mjolnir 2 amps or any other amp that uses ECC88/6DJ8 tubes."

I am aware of the warnings of Dr. Cavalli regarding the risks that might be involved in using such adapters to "play" non-6922 type tubes on the Liquid Platinum. However, I would like to experiment with other types of tubes (the 12AXX types) while playing it as safe as I possibly can. With that said, I would like to know some examples of the best sounding 12AXX tubes known to posters on this forum that have been safely used with the LP, so that I can place some of them on my own shopping list.

I already have several tubes of the E88CC/E188CC/6922 variety from Telefunken, Brimar, Genalex etc. etc. so I am trying to be cautiously adventurous by branching out a little. Your assistance would be appreciated.

Regarding the quality of the adapters pictured above, all I can say is that I have tried these socket savers from the same source (Tube Mongers), and I have found them to be rock-solid and excellent all around, reducing the pain of diddling around with proper tube insertion and seating to zero:

 

[TK16]

I just bought a couple of these adapters from Tube mongers to use with my LP :

This is what they say on the page:

"12Axx to ECC88 adapter will let you use common tubes like 12AX7/ECC83, 12U7/ECC82 and 12AT7/ECC81 and other tubes with same pinouts as 12AX7 in ECC88/6DJ8 amps.

For example you can use this adapter to Plug in 12AX7/ECC83, 12U7/ECC82 and 12AT7/ECC81 in ECC88 based Schiit Lyr 2, Vali 2 or Mjolnir 2 amps or any other amp that uses ECC88/6DJ8 tubes."

I am aware of the warnings of Dr. Cavalli regarding the risks that might be involved in using such adapters to "play" non-6922 type tubes on the Liquid Platinum. However, I would like to experiment with other types of tubes (the 12AXX types) while playing it as safe as I possibly can. With that said, I would like to know some examples of the best sounding 12AXX tubes known to posters on this forum that have been safely used with the LP, so that I can place some of them on my own shopping list.

I already have several tubes of the E88CC/E188CC/6922 variety from Telefunken, Brimar, Genalex etc. etc. so I am trying to be cautiously adventurous by branching out a little. Your assistance would be appreciated.

Regarding the quality of the adapters pictured above, all I can say is that I have tried these socket savers from the same source (Tube Mongers), and I have found them to be rock-solid and excellent all around, reducing the pain of diddling around with proper tube insertion and seating to zero:

I have a top 15 tube list in my profile. Most are LP compatible except for all ECC81 variants including 6201 and GEC A2900. The gain is way too high on the LP to use those tubes. They do work great in Schiit gear.

 

[jb77]

I just bought a couple of these adapters from Tube mongers to use with my LP :

This is what they say on the page:

"12Axx to ECC88 adapter will let you use common tubes like 12AX7/ECC83, 12U7/ECC82 and 12AT7/ECC81 and other tubes with same pinouts as 12AX7 in ECC88/6DJ8 amps.

For example you can use this adapter to Plug in 12AX7/ECC83, 12U7/ECC82 and 12AT7/ECC81 in ECC88 based Schiit Lyr 2, Vali 2 or Mjolnir 2 amps or any other amp that uses ECC88/6DJ8 tubes."

I am aware of the warnings of Dr. Cavalli regarding the risks that might be involved in using such adapters to "play" non-6922 type tubes on the Liquid Platinum. However, I would like to experiment with other types of tubes (the 12AXX types) while playing it as safe as I possibly can. With that said, I would like to know some examples of the best sounding 12AXX tubes known to posters on this forum that have been safely used with the LP, so that I can place some of them on my own shopping list.

I already have several tubes of the E88CC/E188CC/6922 variety from Telefunken, Brimar, Genalex etc. etc. so I am trying to be cautiously adventurous by branching out a little. Your assistance would be appreciated.

Regarding the quality of the adapters pictured above, all I can say is that I have tried these socket savers from the same source (Tube Mongers), and I have found them to be rock-solid and excellent all around, reducing the pain of diddling around with proper tube insertion and seating to zero:

I have four of these adapters and four of their socket savers, without a doubt the best built socket savers and adapters I have tried, plus with their vibration resistant bases they will “help” with microphonic tubes. I did an announcement post on the Schiit Lyr tube rollers thread when they became available on Friday. I have both the LP and the Schiit MJ2 I do adapter tube rolling on both.


Here is the link for the Tubemonger adapters:https://www.tubemonger.com/12Axx_to...IB_1960s_p/12axx-ecc88-adap-novib-mcmurdo.htm

 

[nwavesailor]

I have four of these adapters and four of their socket savers, without a doubt the best built socket savers and adapters available plus with their vibration resistant bases they will “help” with microphonic tubes. I did an announcement post of the Schiit Lyr tube rollers thread when they became available on Friday. I have both the LP and the Schiit MJ2 I do adapter tube rolling on both.

I agree with JB77!

I have a pair of the new Tube Monger 6922 to 12A** adapters as well as the TM socket savers. I used them for 5 pairs of 12AU7's in the Liquid Platinum today. The adapters are well made and are rock solid w/o (at least for me) any microphonics. I can't say that these would make all microphonic tube quiet, but my 5 pairs (10 tubes) were all dead quiet! I have a few 6DJ8 / 6922 / 7308 that sound very nice in the LP, but the 12AU7's sound fantastic!

 

[jb77]

I am aware of the warnings of Dr. Cavalli regarding the risks that might be involved in using such adapters to "play" non-6922 type tubes on the Liquid Platinum. However, I would like to experiment with other types of tubes (the 12AXX types) while playing it as safe as I possibly can. With that said, I would like to know some examples of the best sounding 12AXX tubes known to posters on this forum that have been safely used with the LP, so that I can place some of them on my own shopping list.

@sahmen

Here is a partial list of tubes that I use in my LP (w/o issue for me)

12AU7 variants

1. Mullard Blackburn ECC82 long plate square getter UK B- factory code
2. Mullard Blackburn goal post getter ECC82
3. Brimar CV491/12AU7/ECC82 Long Plate Square Getter England 1958
4. Valvo 12AU7 ECC82 Germany, Hamburg Made Tubes (GfO D9E), SlantedGetters
5. Telefunken ECC82 Smooth Plates
6. Siemens ECC82 Silver Chrome Plates 12AU7 [LP]
7. Amperex Holland long plate foil D getter 7316 / 12au7 1958 (Beckman label)
8. Amperex Holland long plate foil D getter 7316 / 12au7 (2 singles)
9. Amperex PQ 7316 ECC186 12AU7 D Getter matching 461 codes
10. Brimar ECC82 1970s HALO-DISC Getter Short Plate Mazda LABEL - Thorn-AEI - England
11. Tesla (NOT JJ) 1975-82 Military Long PL. ECC802S prem. 12AU7
12. RCA 12AU7 Black Plate Square getter 1957
13. RCA 12AU7A Clear Tops Conn label
14. CBS Hytron JHY 5814A/12au7 Black Plate, Bent rectangular Getter a8
15. Sylvania JHS 5814WA/12AU7 Military Triple Mica Black plates code 5639B 312J
16. Baldwin Raytheon 12AU7 long shiny black plates (6 pairs)
17. Marconi MWT B329 ECC82 BRITISH MADE

All of the above are 12AU7 / variants that the Tubemonger adapters will work with in you LP

It depends on what type of sound signature you like but the Mullard Blackburn ECC82 long plate square getter UK B- factory code are phenomenal tubes however can be expensive. To help find the sound signature you like I would recommend trying:

1. Brimar ECC82 1970s HALO-DISC Getter Short Plate Mazda LABEL - Thorn-AEI - England
From Tubemonger as the are really good tubes for a reasonable price at $80 for a pair ($40 each tube)
https://www.tubemonger.com/MINT_NOS_BRIMAR_ECC82_12AU7_1970s_HALO_DISC_GT_p/1236.htm

And for a different sound signature try these

2. Tesla (NOT JJ) 1975-82 Military Long PL. ECC802S prem. 12AU7
https://www.tubemonger.com/Tesla_NOT_JJ_MINT_NOS_1975_82_ECC802S_Tall_PLCZ_p/1012.htm

Both of these tube are really good! As I have both and really like both for different reasons!

Hope this helps!