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So in essence they are a freight forwarder, an EU webshop shouldn't have to do this, I have bought numerous items from all over Europe and paid the price shown in EUR on the product page only.
Exactly, that is my experience also having bought from Germany/France/Netherlands/Spain/Italy.So in essence they are a freight forwarder, an EU webshop shouldn't have to do this, I have bought numerous items from all over Europe and paid the price shown in EUR on the product page only.
A question for the people that already made an order from Audiophonics..
The DAC is listed for 2.999 euros incl. VAT (20% for France)
However, when I select TVA for Greece (24% vs 20% in France) , the price changes accordingly.
So, help me understand, since i am buying from one EU country to another EU country, why would i have to choose TVA for Greece and pay more?
I was under the impression that this price goes for every country in the EU, since the product has already been imported in France, and transaction within EU (France to Greece in my case) has no excess tax.
I asked Audiophonics support the same question and the answer was not clear to me..
"...Once you have selected the correct country, all prices displayed will have the proper VAT rate, according to the selected country.
The law compels us to match the VAT-rate to that of the delivery country, not the country of purchase...."
I really cannot understand how that can be the case buying within EU.
It never used to be that way. I imported loads into the UK that way. Over £20K worth for my own use.A question for the people that already made an order from Audiophonics..
The DAC is listed for 2.999 euros incl. VAT (20% for France)
However, when I select TVA for Greece (24% vs 20% in France) , the price changes accordingly.
So, help me understand, since i am buying from one EU country to another EU country, why would i have to choose TVA for Greece and pay more?
I was under the impression that this price goes for every country in the EU, since the product has already been imported in France, and transaction within EU (France to Greece in my case) has no excess tax.
I asked Audiophonics support the same question and the answer was not clear to me..
"...Once you have selected the correct country, all prices displayed will have the proper VAT rate, according to the selected country.
The law compels us to match the VAT-rate to that of the delivery country, not the country of purchase...."
I really cannot understand how that can be the case buying within EU.
I’ve ordered a few things from em and being outside the EU they supply it exclusive of VAT, our local NZ GST of 15% is collected at our border by customs and/or the shipping agent on their behalf.It never used to be that way. I imported loads into the UK that way. Over £20K worth for my own use.
You are charged your country's VAT tax as supposedly that money goes or should go to your country. No idea if this happens or how it happens. But you are taxed Greek taxes because you are in Greece, I'm taxed Portuguese taxes because I'm Portuguese. If I order something from Amazon Spain with Prime, final price will always be higher as they automatically apply 23% instead of Spain 21%. It's a free market inside Europe... except for taxes. I don't know how it works in Greece but if I go to Germany and buy a car, as soon as I get to Portugal I'll have to pay the 327 different taxes of my country. It's often more expensive to get a BMW from the factory than buying one locally.A question for the people that already made an order from Audiophonics..
The DAC is listed for 2.999 euros incl. VAT (20% for France)
However, when I select TVA for Greece (24% vs 20% in France) , the price changes accordingly.
So, help me understand, since i am buying from one EU country to another EU country, why would i have to choose TVA for Greece and pay more?
Is the Dave better on initial listen or is it too close to tell?Just doing some early testing up against the Daves Dac only. Using Holo audio red streamer, two coaxial outputs: the one BNC output going into Dave BNC input and the other spdif output going into Laiv spdif input both using the exact same cables. I am then using identical sets of rca cables for both Dave and Laiv going into a two way audio switcher and then a set of rca cables going out into a separate headamp in this case Singxer SA-1 with cap Mod and using Erzetich Charybdis headphones. This way I can instantly switch between Dave and Laiv. Still very early and more listening to do but for the price of the Laiv it's doing a fine job.
Output Impedence don't quite matter since recommendation hovers from 5:1 to 10:1 normally and expected.3 things actually bothered me and prevent me to take the plunge:
- The high output impedance (1200 Ohms) which may represent a difficult load to drive when connecting directly to a power amp with 10KOhm imput impedance
- No AES EBU digital entry: Why in hell the best digital imput is not implemented in this DAC ?
- No volume control
1 The output impedance is actually 600Ω3 things actually bothered me and prevent me to take the plunge:
- The high output impedance (1200 Ohms) which may represent a difficult load to drive when connecting directly to a power amp with 10KOhm imput impedance
- No AES EBU digital entry: Why in hell the best digital imput is not implemented in this DAC ?
- No volume control
definitely looking forward to thisI will have a review up yep. It'll be on patreon first then youtube a few weeks ldefdater