Kubuntu or Ubuntu?

[patman657]

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Originally Posted by PYROphonez I truly don't know what I want. By the way, how well does that WINE program work on ubuntu with gaming? Is Wine already on ubuntu? Right now I'm looking for a how-to on wine, but so far I haven't found much helpful info on it.

Wine does not do well with most recent games, and it puts up a big fuss with almost any application requiring a lot of DLLs or other Windows system files. You should check out WineHQ to see what people are doing with it, and also take a look at WineTools, which helps you install a bunch of apps. Bottom line, Wine is not a replacement for Windows.

You might want to take a look at VMWare. It will allow you to install a copy of Windows over Linux and if you have a fast computer, you can run Windows on top of Linux as a virtual machine so you can use both OSes at the same time. Do know that it is quite expensive, however.

As for your original question, go with whichever you will find easier to work with. This probably means Ubuntu, since there are tons of packages available and major community support. If you are looking for a fully supported operating system, wait for SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10. I have been working with Novell on the beta, and once the bugs get worked out, it's going to be really nice. The downside to a commercial OS, of course, is that they are only going to support a limited number of packages (not to say you can't install more), but the upside is you get commercial packages (such as Adobe Acrobat reader) 100% functional out of the box.

 

[PYROphonez]

There's also a free version of VMWare. I don't really want that, though. I'm in no rush, so I'll take my time to think my options over.

 

[RichA]

I'd forget running Windows games under Linux completely. WINE is superb for applications, but it'll never be a worthwhile replacement to a dual-boot setup. Anyway, consoles are for games, PCs are for going online, listening to music, and bitching on forums

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-- Rich

 

[JaGWiRE]

This threads stupid. Your indirectly asking what people like better, kde or gnome, when many people like neither, and use other WM'S, or else its personall opinion. Die hard Linux fans probably don't even care. To say the least, if your using Linux for gimp, and trying to get an OS that looks like Mac OS X, your using the wrong OS, Linux is all about it's powerful command line.


Oh, and if you can't get mp3's to work, your definitley in the wrong zone. If you google it, that's one of the easiest things to do in Linux, installing stuff is probably much harder (assuming it's not compiled rpms.)

Oh, and sound card drivers suck under Linux, and so do Ati drivers (nvidia is okay now.)

 

[JaGWiRE]

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Originally Posted by RichA I run Kubuntu - it's great. Ubuntu is just the same, apart from the desktop used. I use amaroK for playing music - it's great, and the best I've used. But there is always this niggling thought that something else could do it better. I used XMMS years ago, and started using Beep Media Player a while ago, but ended up switching to amaroK after trying it out. I guess my gripes with amaroK are:- -The whole use of engines - why can't it just use a single engine? It makes added support for whatever codec more troublesome than it need be. -It just feels 'bulky'. Why can't I select 10 tracks and submit them all to musicbrainz to have the tags completed? Why do I have to do each one individually? Why can't I have a button on the toolbar to skip to the next album, or artist, in the current playlist? Sometimes I miss the simplicity of BMP - but it didn't do anything that I've just mentioned. I guess I'm just expecting more from amaroK than I'm currently getting. I've not run Windows on my PC for years now - other than the odd, very short blast when at uni and having to use Visio or Access. There isn't a single thing I miss from Windows. libxine-extracodecs aren't in the multiverse repository. They're in one of the repositories added by a source=o=matic generated sources.list. Dapper is by far the greatest version of *buntu, but the documentation hasn't caught up with the OS just yet. But I guess it was only released a few days ago . I didn't try to make mine look like OSX. I sat down and fiddled with a little at a time until I came up with something that made the best use of my monitor space, and felt easy and simple to use. --Rich

Heh, if I had complient hardware, I'de so be over there with you. After some hardcore kernel tweeking that is

. Ubuntu and kubuntu suck by default if you do anything but minimal installs, so much bloated crap, and in Linux removing stuff isn't as easy as in Windows. Gentooooo! Well, gentoo is going downhill now that you can get installers, but doing it old school stage 3 or 1 is pretty fun.

 

[smeggy]

You OS people are funny.

 

[JaGWiRE]

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Originally Posted by smeggy You OS people are funny.

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BTW, the diehard Linux fans use the ugliest WMS you can imagine for speed. Like I said before, Linux is all about its powerful CLI and unique / easily modifiable kernel. The CLI is all why it's the hackers OS of choice, or UNIX

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[RichA]

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Originally Posted by JaGWiRE This threads stupid. Your indirectly asking what people like better, kde or gnome, when many people like neither, and use other WM'S, or else its personall opinion. Die hard Linux fans probably don't even care. To say the least, if your using Linux for gimp, and trying to get an OS that looks like Mac OS X, your using the wrong OS, Linux is all about it's powerful command line. Oh, and if you can't get mp3's to work, your definitley in the wrong zone. If you google it, that's one of the easiest things to do in Linux, installing stuff is probably much harder (assuming it's not compiled rpms.) Oh, and sound card drivers suck under Linux, and so do Ati drivers (nvidia is okay now.)

Could you please write a guide for us all? I'd never realised that giving consideration to which distro to use was stupid. But not you've said it, it makes so much more sense to me.

Linux isn't even a command line. bash is a command line. KDE is a desktop. The two of them work over the top of Linux.

Why is he in the wrong zone for getting mp3s to work? All he was doing was asking for a little help. Were you born with intimate knowledge of how an operating system works?

Personally, I think that soundcard support under Linux is pretty damned good. Especially when you consider that the majority of vendors don't write any, nor do they give any help with writing drivers. Just how good would the nVidia drivers be today if they weren't released by nVidia in a binary package?

The snobbery of some people on this site really makes me sad sometimes. I'm beginning to wonder if it is a prerequisite of being a member here.

--Rich

 

[JaGWiRE]

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Originally Posted by RichA Could you please write a guide for us all? I'd never realised that giving consideration to which distro to use was stupid. But not you've said it, it makes so much more sense to me. Linux isn't even a command line. bash is a command line. KDE is a desktop. The two of them work over the top of Linux. Why is he in the wrong zone for getting mp3s to work? All he was doing was asking for a little help. Were you born with intimate knowledge of how an operating system works? Personally, I think that soundcard support under Linux is pretty damned good. Especially when you consider that the majority of vendors don't write any, nor do they give any help with writing drivers. Just how good would the nVidia drivers be today if they weren't released by nVidia in a binary package? The snobbery of some people on this site really makes me sad sometimes. I'm beginning to wonder if it is a prerequisite of being a member here. --Rich

Eh? First of all, I said they are bad because like a lot of things, they generally aern't supported by the vendor, so I've had a lot of trouble getting things to work. Secondly, I only said this is stupid because he's not asking about two distrubutions, but two WMS, which in that case he can probably get better results on a Linux forum as to the differences. And yes, your right, ksch and bash are both command lines, and they are the real reason to use LINUX imho. If you can get around in the command line, you can do all sorts of things in Linux, if you can't, you'll probably have trouble installing everything you want (although lately they've been putting a lot of screenshots with the cmds up.) Oh, and I'de write a guide, but theres a jillion guides on the net of which distro to use. And if he needs help on how to get an mp3 to work in Linux, he probably needs to learn more about Linux, because that's a rather basic thing to do. And yes, for the record, I was born with operating system knowledge, passed down to me by my father

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[RichA]

Sorry JaGWIRE, my last post was harsh. I'm having a really ****** few days.

--Rich

 

[JaGWiRE]

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Originally Posted by RichA Sorry JaGWIRE, my last post was harsh. I'm having a really ****** few days. --Rich

Dude, theres no fun without harshness and a bit of thrashing on others. Sometimes these forums are way too dull. Plus, who doesn't like a heated debate?

 

[jnev]

I personally prefer gnome over KDE.. I think kde is a lot more bloated and unnecessarily complicated. gnome looks very clean and I personally think it's better-designed.. JMO obviously. I've been using ubuntu for over a year, best distro I've found after trying over 30..

 

[HPuser9083]

I honestly prefer Xubuntu, both 'cause you can tweak it to look and feel almost exactly like the old GNOME, and it's much lighter-weight than Kubuntu or Unity-era Ubuntu.

 

[HPuser9083]

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I personally prefer gnome over KDE.. I think kde is a lot more bloated and unnecessarily complicated. gnome looks very clean and I personally think it's better-designed.. JMO obviously. I've been using ubuntu for over a year, best distro I've found after trying over 30..

Trust me, Unity's more bloated than KDE, and that's coming from a guy who used Unity for a while, I'm sure that DE is great on an i5 or i7 with plenty of RAM, but on my Sempron with a gig and a half of RAM, Unity, even in 13.04, started to choke once I started messing with virtual machines, when I also had Chromium and something else going too, I also experimented with KDE for a while, but wasn't the biggest fan of that either, which left me at Xfce as my fave DE, and MATE as a second fave, with Cinnamon as an honorable mention.