JVC HA-DX1000 or Denon AH-D7000
Feb 18, 2010 at 1:11 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17

reptillian

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Which one do you think I should get? I listen to music such as rock, pop, electronic, drum and bass. I like the live look of the HA-DX1000. Not sure on the cups of the D7000, if they pick up dings and scratches from normal use, as they are gloss. Can the DX-1000 be used on all types of music? Are any of these headphones "slow" in their transient response? I'm leaning towards the DX1000 atm just to be different, and also for the matte cups.
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 1:33 PM Post #2 of 17
I own both and both are great cans. I personally think the matte finish of te DX1000 may more promt to show imperfections than the glossy lacker finish of the D7000. The DX1000 cups are very deep making the headphones huge to the point that they look funny when you are wearing them.

IMO the bass on the DX1000 sometimes is overpowering and takes over the whole presentation. If you like a lot of bass then they are for you. The rest of the freqeuncies are nice with a very lush sound and a lot of texture.

The D7000 are not lacking bass at all. They are a little bit brighter than the DX1000 in the high frequencies and the mids are just a tad recessed in stock. With some of the Markl mods and the JMoney pads the sound get very balanced with great bass, smooth highs and the mis come forward.

I listen mainly to Rock and Pop and if I am forced just to keep one of those two I will keep the D7000 but that's me.
 
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Feb 18, 2010 at 1:44 PM Post #3 of 17
If isolation is a thing to consider, from my findings DX-1000 isolation (comments and reviews of head-fiers) is at least 30% better....
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM Post #4 of 17
DX 1000 do isolate a lot better then the markl D5000. Which I was told offer better isolation then the stock D5000 when I got it. You would have to treat the wooden denons at least as open headphones if isolation is a criteria. DX 1000 is absolutely not one of the better in this area but they do offer some isolation and the sound pressure they produce helps to overcome my computer fans as well I suppose.

DX 1000 is certainly not rock phones though. They have a tons of bass but it seem very linear... There is not that much of drive as in mid bass punch or something very laid back. They are rolled off clearly in the treble so guitars and such can disappear. Not to say many old recordings are mixed quite extreme and with the wide soundstage the DX 1000 can offer it can kind of split your head in half. Crossfade helps of course. AC/DC or such is not their home turf.

If they are slow in transient response I don´t know... But with their rolled off treble and bass that goes really low in great quantities they do appear slow... Listening to Era for example you often get the impression that they are a half beat behind or something due to their lad back signature I suppose. They are not headphones that get your head bobbing more getting you a relaxed and let you travel to a better world when it all clicks.

electronica, drum and bass, rock and pop you haven´t thought about some Ultrasones? Pro 750, 900 or if you need something more polite and laid back the Edition 8.
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 3:22 PM Post #5 of 17
I have my DX-1000 on order and you guys are freaking me out
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Feb 18, 2010 at 4:05 PM Post #6 of 17
it's looking like the DX1000 as I do need reasonable isolation from outside. I do not want to be engaged with my music all the time, I like a relaxing listen sometimes. are the DX1000 good in this regard? Though they are coloured, the detail will still be there. Alot to like. Amplifiers I am considering are the Graham Slee Solo or Novo, or the X-CAN v8P.
 
Feb 18, 2010 at 4:59 PM Post #7 of 17
They are amazing for relaxed listening
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Feb 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM Post #8 of 17
I agree with oqvist for relax listening they are good.
 
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Feb 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM Post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by reptillian /img/forum/go_quote.gif
it's looking like the DX1000 as I do need reasonable isolation from outside. I do not want to be engaged with my music all the time, I like a relaxing listen sometimes. are the DX1000 good in this regard? Though they are coloured, the detail will still be there. Alot to like. Amplifiers I am considering are the Graham Slee Solo or Novo, or the X-CAN v8P.


I think that the isolation offered by the D7000s is being underexaggerated here.

Isolation from the outside is actually very good. I can faintly hear my computer fans when I have no music or sound playing, but when there's something playing I can't hear it at all.

As far as keeping sound in though, they are weak.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 6:16 AM Post #10 of 17
When I play music on my K701 which is 105 % open I don´t hear my fans too. It´s the blackness between notes that suffers. the markl D5000 hardly isolate more then a K701!
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 1:17 PM Post #11 of 17
I recently bought both, and for me the D7000 is the winner.

I've been very disapointed by the JVC.
First by the cheap build quality. Plastic and wood : a joke.
I understand why a lot of people has broken them.

Secondly, the sound : Absolutely unnatural.
There was an echo giving the impression of a big soundstage.
But not a very realistic one.

The D7000 was better in every way.
Except about isolation.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 1:40 PM Post #12 of 17
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DX 1000 is certainly not rock phones though. They have a tons of bass but it seem very linear... There is not that much of drive as in mid bass punch or something very laid back. They are rolled off clearly in the treble so guitars and such can disappear. Not to say many old recordings are mixed quite extreme and with the wide soundstage the DX 1000 can offer it can kind of split your head in half. Crossfade helps of course. AC/DC or such is not their home turf.

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Just to provide an alternate view - I do not agree with any of the above (no offense to oqvist, just my opinion). I own both the D7000 and the DX1000, and I do not think the D7000 is the better headphone for rock in absolute terms. The DX1000 and the Denon are both excellent headphones for rock.

And while I freely admit to being a fan of the DX1000, the idea that the DX1000's treble is so rolled off that you can't hear guitars also must have been intended as a joke. Guitars go not live in the treble; they live in the midrange. The JVC has a slightly more forward midrange than the Denon, and as such, I actually prefer the JVC for guitar. Both have great bass. The D7000 has more treble energy than the DX1000 I agree. This will either be good or bad, depending on your amp, or tastes.

Anyway, just thought the other side of the DX1000 camp should pipe in here. There are a lot of very happy DX1000 owners.

That said, the D7000 is also a great headphone. It, too, has it's detractors, though. Not every headphone is right for every person.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM Post #13 of 17
I've ordered the D7000. The DX1000 is nearly £800 in the UK.
 
Feb 19, 2010 at 2:22 PM Post #14 of 17
that is why you buy the DX 1000 or DA 1000 in germany
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Feb 19, 2010 at 5:55 PM Post #15 of 17
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Just to provide an alternate view - I do not agree with any of the above (no offense to oqvist, just my opinion). I own both the D7000 and the DX1000, and I do not think the D7000 is the better headphone for rock in absolute terms. The DX1000 and the Denon are both excellent headphones for rock.

And while I freely admit to being a fan of the DX1000, the idea that the DX1000's treble is so rolled off that you can't hear guitars also must have been intended as a joke. Guitars go not live in the treble; they live in the midrange. The JVC has a slightly more forward midrange than the Denon, and as such, I actually prefer the JVC for guitar. Both have great bass. The D7000 has more treble energy than the DX1000 I agree. This will either be good or bad, depending on your amp, or tastes.

Anyway, just thought the other side of the DX1000 camp should pipe in here. There are a lot of very happy DX1000 owners.

That said, the D7000 is also a great headphone. It, too, has it's detractors, though. Not every headphone is right for every person.



Back at home so have some more time now.

I would like to add myself to the group of happy DX 1000 owners though they do have quirks as all headphones... But I have always thought their laid back dark signature suit classical, jazz better then rock. Not specifically the D7000 which I haven´t heard so wasn´t really doing such a comparison. Had the markl D5000 but that one just wasn´t for me. So not really using it as a reference either.

The comparison is mainly to my speakers and other headphones in the sig mainly. Now I can enjoy rock as well on these it´s not bad. It just isn´t rock it´s something else
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