Jazz noob... needs more... cant get enough...

Jun 28, 2005 at 9:28 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

kramer5150

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After a lifelong addiction to prog-metal and 80's guitar rock. I'm completely hooked on jazz, big band and swing, both with and without vocals.... that up-tempo type groove is very addictive.

Can you please recommend some up-tempo tunes / CDs for me?

Ella fitzgerald, sinatra and charlie parker are pretty much all Ive been exposed to, but I want MORE... anything goes.

Thanks!!
Garrett (foot currently tappin to some Duke Ellington)
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 9:45 PM Post #2 of 16
Hmm, why not try "The Definitive Clifford Brown" - the standout track there is "I've Got You Under My Skin" which features Dinah Washington on vocals and Brownie just going off in a "hell if I care" riff. It's not a bad way to get introduced to him, and it also has his classic "Cherokee" on there.

And if you Like the Duke...

"In July 1956, Ellington received an invitation to the Newport Jazz Festival, then a festival for mostly well-to-do suburban whites in the posh Atlantic resort town of Newport, Rhode Island. He composed a Jazz suite especially for the occasion, and gave his band a rare pep talk before the show, as if knowing the importance of the moment before it happened. The show went well, but not fantastically, until the final number. As his final number, and as the audience was rumored to be filing out of the stands, he played a staple of the Ellington Big Band at the time: Diminuendo and Crescendo in D; a song blending two songs that Duke had originally recorded on flip sides of a 78-record in 1937.

Duke lazily introduced the song to a quiet, mulling audience that even "sounds like" it was filing out of the stands at the beginning of the song. The band struck, and much of the audience returned to their seats, inspired by the amazing ensemble work of the Diminuendo half of the song and the up-beat Swing rhythm. Four minutes into the song, Paul Gonsalves began what would become one of the most famous saxophone solos in Jazz history. Duke had seen Golsalves develop into that particular solo over the past months of performance, and let him loose that night. What began as an ordinary solo for a few bars developed into a rousing 27-chorus, 7 minute saxophone solo.

The song tapped into many of the elements of Duke's music throughout his career, as if condensing his entire career to that point into one song: the forward-leaning but relaxed and intoxicating Duke-Swing rhythm, the almost-dissonant but still strikingly-awesome and harmonic tenor of his piano and horn section ensemble, and the individually-talented musicians that nobody but Duke could harness in a big band, the blend of complex harmonic arrangement and "old-old school" dixieland-style trumpet solos. A legendarily-anonymous young, blonde woman in a black dress (a Marilyn Monroe "wanna-be") jumped up and started dancing in the audience and then onstage. The previously-sedate, silent, mulling crowd of mostly young white suburban kids--most of them born after Duke had finished his stint at the Cotton Club in the late-1920s; divided by time, class, and culture from those early Harlem crowds at the Cotton Club--was lifted into a frenzy that called for four encores. You can even hear the roar of the crowd clearly develop into a frenzy through Gonsalves solo on the recording.

That performance, and the best-selling album of Duke's career ("Ellington at Newport," pictured above) that followed from it, re-ignited Duke's career, without which he might have faded away into being just another legacy of the Swing Era. It re-ignited youthful interest in Jazz, turning early Rock-and-Roll kids onto the music of their parents."
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 10:08 PM Post #3 of 16
Garrett,

Like you, I am just starting out with jazz
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. I only have a few CDs so far, but John Coltrane's 'Blue Train' is quite up tempo (certainly more so than Miles Davis' 'A Kind Of Blue'), as is Charlie Mingus' 'Mingus Ah Um'. I'm afraid I don't have anything beyond that, but it's a good start.

Speaking of 'A Kind Of Blue', can anyone recommend a more up tempo Miles Davis album?
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 10:27 PM Post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by kramer5150
After a lifelong addiction to prog-metal and 80's guitar rock. I'm completely hooked on jazz, big band and swing, both with and without vocals.... that up-tempo type groove is very addictive.

Can you please recommend some up-tempo tunes / CDs for me?

Ella fitzgerald, sinatra and charlie parker are pretty much all Ive been exposed to, but I want MORE... anything goes.

Thanks!!
Garrett (foot currently tappin to some Duke Ellington)



I can't dig up albums right now (I'm at work), but almost anything by the below artists is essential jazz listening. They are all upbeat, for the most part.

For Big Band:

Louis Armstrong
Fletcher Henderson
Chick Webb

For Bop:

Charlie parker
Dizzy Gillespie

For Hard Bop:

Sonny Rollins
Jackie McClean

For free jazz:

Charles Mingus
Eric Dolphy
Orentte Coleman

.........that should keep you busy for a while.
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Jun 28, 2005 at 10:53 PM Post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by digitaldave
Garrett,

Like you, I am just starting out with jazz
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. I only have a few CDs so far, but John Coltrane's 'Blue Train' is quite up tempo (certainly more so than Miles Davis' 'A Kind Of Blue'), as is Charlie Mingus' 'Mingus Ah Um'. I'm afraid I don't have anything beyond that, but it's a good start.

Speaking of 'A Kind Of Blue', can anyone recommend a more up tempo Miles Davis album?



There were a string of albums in the mid/late fifties with Coltrane as a side-man: Workin', Steamin', Cookin'.

Ten years later, different band, and you have: ESP, Sorcerer, Nefertitti.

A few years later, you have Jack Johnson, Bitches Brew.
 
Jun 28, 2005 at 11:04 PM Post #6 of 16
thanks keep em coming!! whats so fascinating is the history and evolution of sounds and eras....

Garrett
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 2:46 AM Post #9 of 16
I too am a jazz newbie, but I must say that the live album Black Beauty by Miles Davis is incredible musical insanity. Too bad the recording has a lot of tape hiss.
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 4:00 AM Post #10 of 16
Thanks for this thread! I'm just getting into some jazz. Arturo Sandoval is an amazing trumpet player - so far I like everything of his I've listened to. I also have picked up two Caribbean Jazz Project cd's & I can't quit listening to them!!!
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 4:11 AM Post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by micaela
Thanks for this thread! I'm just getting into some jazz. Arturo Sandoval is an amazing trumpet player - so far I like everything of his I've listened to. I also have picked up two Caribbean Jazz Project cd's & I can't quit listening to them!!!


I too am a HUGE Arturo Sandoval fan (well obviously, I'm a trumpet player)!
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He has fantastic control over his horn. What albumns have you got? Hot House is definitely my favorite, but you should also give a listen to his Trumpet Evolution albumn. It covers some really great classic jazz charts.

Garrett, if you're into latin jazz or want some good trumpet tunes, check out Sandoval! His upbeat style never fails to get me groovin'!
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Jun 29, 2005 at 4:13 AM Post #12 of 16
Jimmy Smith & Wes Montgomery Dynamic Duo - features big band arrangements by Oliver Nelson, but the real interest for me lies in the solos by Jimmy & Wes. Both considered masters of their instruments.

Woody Shaw Rosewood - uses a a quintet & 'concert ensemble'. Mostly acoustic, but some use of electric piano. He may be my favorite trumpeter of the moment. Nice recording quality (from 1977).

Lee Morgan The Sidewinder - The title track is a real groovy tune, but you may grow sick of it after it gets in your head. The rest of the album is more interesting me. Joe Henderson in his first year on the recording scene.

Joe Henderson Big Band - a one I've been listening to lately. Features some of Henderson's compositions and such notable sidemen as Chick Corea and Nicholas Payton. Very nice recordings (92-96) - lets the full dynamic range of the bands come through.

Larry Young Mother Ship - Sorry Jimmy Smith, I think Larry is THE master of the Hammond B-3 organ. The way he comps behind soloists is amazing, but there is never a dull moment for me when he's playing. Is the 'drops' in Love Drops a noun or verb?
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Matthew Shipp Equilibrium - some newer stuff (2003). Uses modern beats, synthesizer, and vibes. Very contemporary sounding, but still gives props to Jazz's past. I love the more groovy tunes on it.

Hmm, that's all I have time for at the moment...
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 4:46 AM Post #13 of 16
ajt976 said:
I too am a HUGE Arturo Sandoval fan (well obviously, I'm a trumpet player)!
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He has fantastic control over his horn. What albumns have you got? Hot House is definitely my favorite, but you should also give a listen to his Trumpet Evolution albumn. It covers some really great classic jazz charts.


Listening to a "Best of" album right now! Yes he does have amazing control over the horn. My brother in law suggested that I listen to him. He's a trumpet player also & had the chance to play a gig with him a few years ago & since has become an avid fan.
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 6:35 AM Post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by kramer5150

After a lifelong addiction to prog-metal and 80's guitar rock. I'm completely hooked on jazz, big band and swing, both with and without vocals.... that up-tempo type groove is very addictive.

Can you please recommend some up-tempo tunes / CDs for me?



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Jamal is what you can call a powerfull pianist like Chucho Valdes and he will give you a good run for your money.

Just an observation, could be an advice
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, read about jazz before buying. It will be of a great service to you. I read all I could during almost 2 years before buying my first jazz cd.....
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Amicalement
 
Jun 29, 2005 at 7:53 AM Post #15 of 16
Lester Young hasn't been mentioned? Birds mentor? The 'President' of the tenor sax as named by Billy Holiday?

'...Lester Young invented the modern use of the word cool and he [Jackie McLean] said, "anyone who tells you other wise is bullsh!t!ng."'

some other names not mentioned (in no particular order):

Hank Mobley (60's)
Pepper Adams (60's)
Gerry Mulligan (everything)
Donald Byrd (50's and 60's)
Kenny Dorham (50's and 60's)
Count Basie and his Orchestra (the early stuff)
Don Byas (40's)
Coleman Hawkins (40's)
Ben Webster (30's-60's)
Oscar Peterson (50's-70's)
Ray Brown (pretty much everything)
Neils-Henning-Orsted-Pederson (everything)
Cab Calloway and his Orchestra (30's)
Billy Holiday (everything)
Harry 'Sweets' Edison (everything)
Teddy Wilson (everything)
Bill Evans (everything)
Chet Baker (everything)
Stan Getz (I prefer 50's)
Bud Freeman (everything)
Dexter Gordon (60's)
Johnny Hodges (everything)
Horace Silver (50's and 60's)
Joe Pass (70's and ?)
Milt Jackson (50's, 60's, and 70's)
Cannonball Adderly (everything)
Sonny Stitt (I prefer 40's)
Fats Navarro (40's?)
Benny Carter (pretty much everything)
Sidney Bechet (everything)
Art Blakey (50's and 60's)

This is definately a "short" list....
 

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