Jaybird Sportsband 2 Review
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Jaybird Sportsband 2 Review
 
Thanks to Advanced Headphones www.advancedheadphones.co.uk for the sample (AMP3’s sister site)
 

 
First impressions:  Wires are for puppets.  So says the box anyway and that these are wireless is pretty much their raison d'etre.  I’ve used Bluetooth stuff before in the form of a dongle type thing you plug normal headphones into and it I found good, so with this having the new apt-X I’m hoping for much.  Looking at them I see I have a white and red one. I know it’s supposed to be red but it looks more like fuchsia to me.  Their web site calls it Runners Red.  Frankly it looks very girly, still they make a bunch of colours so I’m sure the black one looks much more butch.
 
Going to charge the things I note that they use a proprietary connector, those who follow me on twitter will know how positively I thought of that.  It’s utterly and impossibly stupid.  Jaybird why on earth wouldn’t you use micro usb?  You know like everything else on the planet and that I have about 300 thousand cables for.  Fail.
 

 
Source, well paired device anyway, mostly a Galaxy Nexus and a Sensation XE
 
Lows:  Given this is something that is wide open it comes with the usual bass can go to a point then over the cliff it goes.  In most music, particularly pop it’s not a problem.  Bass there is often more about impact than it is about out limboing a double bass.  There is no danger of that here.  Punch wise it’s a fair effort but it doesn’t have that slam or agility I’d like to see in cases where you can’t have that smooth and deep expansion.  Meh, it’s okay but as bass goes this is more McDonalds than it is steak.  It’s adequate and it sort of gets you there and you kinda know what it should be. 
 
Quantity wise it’s a bit elevated, as you would expect is a consumer orientated device.  It’s not as thick and over blown as I might have feared.  Mind you it is stretching my tolerance to a point I don’t like these.  Thick and heavy.
 

 
Mids:  A little Tori and these have a go but it’s not great.  I want to say it’s not terrible but it is not pleasing me.  I know thats not the sort of music this is aimed at but still, it’s not really working.  Switching to some Scissor Sisters things aren’t so noticeable.  You don’t really listen to pop for the vocals.  It’s the all round ensemble and the energy.  Even there I want to say something grand about these but I’m struggling.  I don’t hate them, they are perfectly inoffensive but I can’t say I actually like them.  In quantity they are more or less about where the bass is, a touch behind but nothing to worry about.
 

 
Highs:  Well they are utterly inoffensive. That may be because they are basically absent.  Still it’s better to do that than make the forward and have it ravage you ears.  That’s sort of praise but somewhat feint and somewhat damming.  Sticking on some Owl City it just sounds like half the song is gone.  Like I said it is inoffensive so that’s something at least.
 

 
Soundstage:  Adequate, reasonable fair but I’d expect that from an on rather than in ear. 
 
Comfort:  This will always be individual dependant but I had no problems.  They do clamp a bit but then how else do you want them to attach to your head?  I’m not sure I would maybe want then on me all day long but the idea doesn’t scare me either.  Should be easily comfy enough to cope with any gym session that the rest of you can also cope with.
 
Fit:  Super straight forward.  Once you get the length right they just go on your head on your done.  Cant imagine anyone is likely to have issue here.
 

 
Cable:  None.  I cold stop there but the very lack of a cable is why you may buy this.  Now I get that it may sound silly, just how bothersome is a little bit of wire?  Once you have tried wireless there is something amazingly freeing about it.  If you haven’t tried it then you really have no idea what it is your missing.  Like moving from glasses to contacts, you may never have minded the glasses but once they are gone suddenly they seem so intrusive.  The no cable is the entire selling point of these things with a clear push to gym and exercise use.  As a bit of a lazy chap I outsourced some gym use and their commentary will appear below.  However even for me sat a desk, even simple things like getting up for a caffeine refill, so very, very handy not being plugged in.  The freedom they give you is just fantastic and they have a range that meant I could get up, wander to the kitchen and it all kept going without skipping a beat.  Love it.
 

 
Phone Use:  Well I found out these have a mic and take calls when my phone rang.  Best Bluetooth headset ever!  I don’t know how well I came through the other side but my sister didn’t seem to realise I was on a headset.  At first it was somewhat surreal but like with music, fantastically freeing.  If you are someone who wants a Bluetooth headset but don’t like in ear things maybe this could be just the thing for you?  Vocals came through nice and clear, by all accounts I was clearly audible too.  Not sure how the mic being so far away would do with being in a noisy environment but seemed good to me.  Tbh who actually makes phone calls anyway?
 
The controls were easy enough to use but the forward and back buttons seemed to work once then not again.  I can’t say what the cause of this was so I’ll blame neither them and steer the blame to the more likely android. 
 
Build Quality:  Actually it feels okay, it’s a difficult thing to balance between make something super solid and making it light.  To me it seems a pretty nice halfway but it may not please everyone.  I can’t see any flaws and its looks nicely put together.  The band internals are metal so in theory I’d expect it to take the odd collision or two pretty well but I don’t plan on testing it to destruction so it’s all supposition.
 

 
Isolation:  None.   Given these are aimed at sporty activity scenarios that’s probably a very good thing.  For yours and everyone else’s safety.
 
Accessories:  You get a few spare ear pads and the stupid proprietary changing cable that you will no doubt loose. 
 
 
Value:  Here I’m a bit conflicted.  If we look at these simply from an audio quality perspective then these suck.  They are expensive and sound pretty poor.  These aren’t ordinary headphones though, that’s probably a big part in why they cost what they do too.  These are rather meh sounding but the wireless is amazing in practical use.  If you have never used it before then you really won’t grasp how spectacularly freeing that is.  I don’t believe you really can get it either until you have tried it.  Particularly for things like being in the gym or being all active and sporty it’s much more like having your own speaker system, just for you.  Words can’t really express how freeing it is to be free to move with no cables in the way.  So when it comes to value how important in that aspect to you?
 

 
Conclusion:  I don’t know if I like these.  I can’t say I like how they sound, looking at their price I can’t help but think hell to the no.  For the money as a headphone you can do so much better.  It isn’t really just a headphone though.  The wireless aspect is great and probably makes the cost worth it if you do any sort of activity with them.  It really is just so very freeing and makes it hard to go back to things with a wire. Sporty peeps, or at least people who would like the think they are sporty should love these.  If you’re a jogger or whatnot how could you not love the no wires aspect.  On AMP3’s website they even did a little video where they have a bunch of ladies doing a silent aerobics routine with a bunch of these.  I’d like to see that tried with normal headphones!
 
These fulfil a role that normal things just can’t quite do and that makes them pretty appealing.  Sure I’d like them to sound better and I did have high hopes.  The apt-X branding and the quote from their site “The new SB2 Sportsband introduces the option of CD quality music performance over Bluetooth. It comes with apt-X on board, which cleans up, adds depth, bass and treble to your Bluetooth music with technical specifications matching that of CD quality output.”  I can say this right now, this is no audiophile product.  It’s not even close.  Its selling point is that’s wireless, which is why you may buy one of these, nothing else and if I was in a gym or more sporty then I dare say I would have been even more appreciative of that aspect.  Wireless as a concept is awesome plain and simple.
 
This is a sporty product for sporty people to do sporty things.  If that sounds like you then they are a really useful way of getting music to your ears and you can take calls too.  As a package it’s pretty decent.  I wish I could be more praising of its sound quality but I cant, still it’s not like you can use the HD600’s for out jogging though can you?
 
 
 
Mar 15, 2012 at 12:18 PM Post #2 of 15
 
Jaybird Sportsband 2 Quick Review
 
Thanks to Advanced Headphones www.advancedheadphones.co.uk for the sample (AMP3’s sister site)
 
Brief:  Wireless freedom
 
Price:  £89 but currently have £10 off with the code tped5n
 
Specification:  Battery Life Standby Time: up to 250 Hrs, Battery Type Lithium Polymer (Li-Po), Bluetooth Codec SBC (or apt-X if music device supports) BlueTooth Protocol Bluetooth 2.0 A2DP, Charging Time (approx) 2.5hrs, Controls AVRCP Music Controls (Play, pause, Next, Back), Call Controls (answer, end, reject call), General (Volume, pair, power) Cord N/A - Bluetooth Connection, Dimensions (HxWxD) 160 mm x 150 mm x 30 mm (Band) 43 mm (earpads), Driver Unit High Integrity Single Driver Ear coupling supra-aural, Frequency Band 2.4 GHz, Frequency Response 20Hz - 20kHz, Impedance 32ohms, Manufacturer Warranty 1 Year Limited Warranty, Lifetime Warranty Against Sweat, Max. Power Input N/A - Bluetooth Connection Mic Sensitivity -34 dB + /-3dB (1KHz, 0dB = 1V/Pa) Microphone Type 4mm omni-directional Noise Isolation Passive - Up to 75% of ambient noise* Output Level 15mW RMS (with level limit feature) Playback Time Music Play Time: 8 Hrs, Talk Time: 11 Hrs Sensitivity 117 dB SPL/mW, at 1 kHz THD <5% (1KHz, 10mW)
 
Accessories:  You get some spare pads and a charging cable.
 
Build Quality:  It’s quite light but still feels and looks pretty sturdy. 
 
Isolation:  None.
 
Comfort/Fit:  Pretty good actually, I worried it may be super clampy on the ears to keep it on there but its not too bad.  Probably because its so light it doesn’t need to crush your skull to remain put.
 
Aesthetics:  Well the one I had I can’t say I adored the colour but otherwise not bad.  I do think the pictures on the Jaybirds web site look a little touched up.  I don’t know why they would though.
 
Sound:  Honestly they aren’t the best.  Granted a lot of what you’re paying for is the wireless aspect and I really cannot praise that enough.  The freedom they give you is just fantastic but the sound quality is not.  I’d hope given how they go an about apt-X and CD quality etc etc they would be good.  The inclusion of apt-X is clearly for marketing as I know even the old A2DP is capable of far better.  The sound here is thick, warm and heavy.  It feels almost laboured, given the price and marketing I expected better.  They gave me high expectations and the did not deliver.  However, the big selling point of these is the wireless and that aspect is stunning.  If you have never used something like this then I suggest doing so.  No wires is amazingly freeing and if you’re an exercise junky then that aspect must be hugely persuasive.  As a package its selling point is freedom and the ability to move not audio quality.
Small note, the track back and forth buttons only worked once than refused to do anything.  Clearly it didn’t like to play well with Android.  Also I greatly disliked the use of a proprietary charger connector rather than micro usb.
 
Value:  Hmm, well how important is the wireless aspect to you?  You’re mostly paying for that and as such there are pricey for the audio quality.  Given that sound quality is not their selling point it’s hard to judge value.  I’m not very sporty so for me I’d live the wires but the freedom they offer is a highly compelling feature that you don’t realise how compelling until you have tried it.
 
Pro’s:   Wonderfully freeing
 
Con’s:  Don’t sound particularly good.
 
 
 
Mar 15, 2012 at 12:18 PM Post #3 of 15
Mikes thoughts
 
  • He liked how they looked, they stand out and were rather stylish.  Will get you noticed in the gym if you like that sort of thing.
 
  • Not really that comfy and didn’t quite stay on your head as well as he hoped.  Became a little uncomfortable after a while though he did think you would get used to that in time.   However it was a trade of between the two.
 
 
  • Loved the freedom of no wires, absolutely loved that.  Being able to connect them to his phone and then go wandering round the flat and no idea where the phone had been left yet they still worked.  Housework had never been so fun.
 
  • The wireless range on them was really impressive.
 
 
  • The sound quality was meh, he wasn’t used to much in the way of good stuff and yet he really wasn’t taken by them.  The sound quality just wasn’t great at all which he found really disappointing as everything else was so good.
 
 
Mar 31, 2012 at 6:38 PM Post #5 of 15
Did you use the product with an Apt-X compatible Bluetooth dongle? Or does your integrated Bluetooth adapter support Apt-X? Because I didn't see any photos of the dongle you are using, or any mention that your Bluetooth adapter supports Apt-X.
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM Post #7 of 15
The CD Quality audio is actually Apt-X's advertising. You should get an Apt-X compatible dongle and reevaluate the sound quality.
http://uk.store.creative.com/speakers/creative-bluetooth-audio-bt-d1-usb-transmitter/4-19611.aspx
http://uk.store.creative.com/speakers/creative-bluetooth-audio-bt-d5-iphone-ipod-transmitter/4-19612.aspx
http://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_accessories
 
For non-iDevices there is a quite strange solution:
http://www.amazon.com/JayBird-uSport-Bluetooth-Adapter-Devices/dp/B002PU9U0E/ref=pd_sim_cps_12
 
Hopefully Apt-X gets more famous, so everyone can enjoy better music quality. Samsung already stated, that one of their next Tablet devices would support Apt-X. Maybe there is hope for Apt-X support in Galaxy SIII 
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I would be interested in your opinion about the quality, because I'm considering buying an Apt-X compatible headset. Unfortunately there's no good Apt-X solution for Android devices right now (as far as I know).
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 6:05 PM Post #8 of 15
"CD quality" is practically a worthless marketing term nowadays, satellite radio companies say that their satellite streams are "CD quality" when in fact they are 64kbps AAC-HE and sound pretty atrocious...
 
Apr 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM Post #9 of 15
That's why it would be nice, if someone could tell from experience what is sounds like to him. Or maybe even create a blind test with multiple people telling their opinions.
 
Jun 17, 2012 at 7:37 PM Post #10 of 15
Quote:
i used the internal bluetooth  of them and none were apt-X.

I imagine that judging these without APTX is worthless.
 
You should really revisit these with APTX, I think your opinion might change.
 
Sennheiser seems to think that APTX is worth a listen too.
 
Just a thought, Jim
 
Jun 25, 2012 at 2:19 PM Post #11 of 15
Quote:
I imagine that judging these without APTX is worthless.
 
You should really revisit these with APTX, I think your opinion might change.
 
Sennheiser seems to think that APTX is worth a listen too.
 
Just a thought, Jim

 
i dissagree
 
having used the sonyericsson HBH-DS200 too and it manages fine.  the A2DP connection i am not convinced was the problem.  maybe it all does do better with APT-X but given the fact google music only streams at best 320k mp3's A2DP with about 1mbit worth of bandwidth really should not be the limiting factor.
 
Jun 25, 2012 at 3:05 PM Post #12 of 15
Just to clarify:
When you are using a bluetooth connection, your device transcodes it to the SBC codec by default. So if you are listening to music, whatever the source may be (MP3, FLAC, OGG, etc.), it is transcoded.
However, if you used two Apt-X compatible bluetooth devices, Apt-X would be a preferred codec over SBC.
 
So it's entirely possible, that the Jaybird headset may not fully utilize the SBC codec (which is an issue if you are using multiple BlueTooth devices and only some support Apt-X), but it may work fine with Apt-X.
 
That's why you should give it a try. It's like the product is only half tested.
 
Sep 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM Post #13 of 15
Lets face it these are not hi-fi headpones and it's not that fair to judge them as such. However in terms of portability they seem great. I have purchased these to take on holiday so I can chill out by the pool without being restriced by cables. Sonically they are passable but not the kit for a serious listening session. I can also imagine taking these with me if I am going hiking that way the ipad can stay safely tucked away from the elements. In conclusion they seem to fulfil my specific needs, but are not a primary listening device.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 12:17 AM Post #14 of 15
Quote:
Lets face it these are not hi-fi headpones and it's not that fair to judge them as such. However in terms of portability they seem great. I have purchased these to take on holiday so I can chill out by the pool without being restriced by cables. Sonically they are passable but not the kit for a serious listening session. I can also imagine taking these with me if I am going hiking that way the ipad can stay safely tucked away from the elements. In conclusion they seem to fulfil my specific needs, but are not a primary listening device.

 
I agree with your assessment.  I find the Sportsband to be tolerable sonically.  The only headphones that I have that are around the same price are the Koss Portapro's.  In a head-to-head I'd say the Portapro's are way better.  Not really a contest.  I don't even find the Sportsband to be remotely neutral.  There is just something funky going on with the sound.  Not so funky that I'm suspicious that they're defective... but they don't sound like expensive headphones.  Easily the worst sounding headphones in my stable of headphones.
 
I think it's important to share my setup to get the best possible sound (at least with the equipment I have on hand): 
 
24bit Lossless files > Decibel Player on MacBook > Audioquest Dragonfly > Jaybird Apt-X Universal adapter > Sportsband
 
Actually, in response to the OP, they do sound much more extended on both the ends of the spectrum with Apt-X.  Non Apt-X (i.e. SBC codec) resulted in more compressed, muddy sound.  In my opinion, they sound much better using the Apt-x codec.  However, they still wouldn't be confused with anything approaching audiophile level.
 
I don't want to sound too down on these headphones.  I would actually recommend these to friends.  They have their purpose... wireless, sweat proof use.  In that respect I find them completely satisfying.  I use a rowing machine almost exclusively for my cardio workouts, so using a wired solution is quite cumbersome. Being able to row and move around without a wire flapping about is awesome.  It's quite liberating.  And if I'm pairing it with my smartphone, you can skip tracks and adjust the volume using the headphone mounted controls... that alone is worth at least 50% of the cost of the headphones.  Also, the headband is lined with some pretty seriously grippy material so these things don't move around much at all.  When I have my heart-rate running at 85% or higher, I pretty much just need some reasonable sounding noise to distract me from the pain of the workout.  The Sportsband definitely fits that bill.
 
Oct 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM Post #15 of 15
These bear an uncanny resemblance to the Nuforce BT-860 (or perhaps that's the other way around)...
 

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