ipod shuffle vs muvo micro

Feb 7, 2005 at 2:40 AM Post #31 of 35
with the muvo, you can adjust sound using the equalizer. with the shuffle, there is no such option. so, a muvo might fit your sound requirements better.
 
Feb 7, 2005 at 2:58 AM Post #32 of 35
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Originally Posted by xau
MuVo is the obvious choise! whjo would pay $99 for a flash falyer with almost no features, and then pay another $29 for each acessory? plus, in about a year, the battery in the shufle will die and you'll end up paying a small fortune to have it replaced.
with the MuVo, you'll have a lot more features, a more reliable player and it will be a lot cheaper. ( most acessories are included and no rechargable batery which needs to be replaced every year)
The Muvo is a much better player. don't forget that the shuffle is apples first flash based player.



first, shuffle has a large capacity at competitive prices. mp3 players in the same price range are likely to have a capacity of 128mb or 256mb. second, the shuffle is very small and compact. it weighs only 22 grams. I think an AAA battery is even heavier than that. third, itunes is very easy to use. forth, if you use non rechargeable battery on other flash based mp3 player, it is not going to be cheap. you can use rechargeable ones tho, but they need to be replaced eventually as well. there is no rechargeable battery you can use forever. its the same for other mp3 players with internal batteries. people are just making lies about the whole battery thing. most of them just echoed what others say. I was one of them before I did some search on ipodlounge and other reliable sources. I do admit that the accessory thing is pretty stupid.. HOWEVER, usb chargers made by other companies are pretty cheap on eBay. they are on sale for less than 10 bucks.


EDITED: it also depends which one is your priority. to me, small size and large capacity are the most important.
 
Feb 7, 2005 at 3:09 AM Post #33 of 35
I like my Muvo TX 512M (non FM).
Nice user adjustable graphic EQ.
IMHO navigating through 512M of songs is a LOT easier with the LCD screen.
I like the drag-drop ease of use in windows explorer.

The random "click" is not severe enough for me to consider it a major flaw. My chipset "clicks" about once every 90 minutes.
The backlight LED buzz is only audible with low impedence/high sensitive headphones. My KSC75 is silent and sounds GREAT. With my e2c the backlight buzz is only FAINTLY audible between tracks.
I prefer the AAA cell over a proprietary rechargeable pack.

Just my thoughts...

Garrett
 
Feb 7, 2005 at 5:11 AM Post #34 of 35
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Originally Posted by frankcent
it weighs only 22 grams. I think an AAA battery is even heavier than that. if you use non rechargeable battery on other flash based mp3 player, it is not going to be cheap. you can use rechargeable ones tho, but they need to be replaced eventually as well. there is no rechargeable battery you can use forever. its the same for other mp3 players with internal batteries. people are just making lies about the whole battery thing. most of them just echoed what others say. I was one of them before I did some search on ipodlounge and other reliable sources. I do admit that the accessory thing is pretty stupid.. HOWEVER, usb chargers made by other companies are pretty cheap on eBay. they are on sale for less than 10 bucks.


acturly a AAA battery is 12 grams
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and the N200 is also 22 grams without battery.

it's true if you use non rechargeble battery,the over all price will add up, but a pack of 4 AAA N-H rechargeble batterys is only 6 bucks in FRY's. and a cheep charger is also 10 bucks on e-bay. and from experince i know a N-H battery can last a year at lease, so it make this combination good for 4 years(assume you charge it every night and listen to it every day).cut it half if you wanna keep one for back up. still it will last 2 years untill you need to replace them.
also, the Li ion battery will died in a year, if not totally useless, it will still drop alot compacity. i know this from experinces not some "search on reliable sources",i mean every body got a cell phone right ?how many of you need to replaced battery after a year?it's the same Li-ion battery.
personaly i don't think the shuffle's battery is user replaceble.and i don't think apple will only charge 6 bucks for a replacement.
and also a AAA battery add-on pack for shuffle will cost $29 and weight at lease 12X2=24 grams, add this to shuffle ,it will be 46 grams at lease, i know i don't had to do this ,but i really hate it when i wanna listen to my music and the internal battery just ran out.
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but over all , i still think shuffle is the reall easy to carry for it's only 22grams.

and i do think shuffle can have better sound, cuz it has less feature,any one who study EE knows less componant means less interference,and shuffle has a stronger battery too(Li-ion) which theoretically should have a cleanner and stronger out put. i don't know if this is true.but it should be that way.

at last, shuffle use a chip similar to N200(not the same chip) ,so they should have a identical sound ,personally i think apple and creative tweek their EQ in diffrent way,so it may sounds diffrent, which one is better is totally up to you.


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Feb 7, 2005 at 6:00 AM Post #35 of 35
Here is what I have gathered:

Both units have similar sound quality. As a result, purchase should be decided on features:

MuVo N200 Features..
- backlit display
- preset & user definable EQ settings
- ability to record 96, 128 and 160kbps MP3s (line in)
- ability to record voice using built-in voice mic
- ability to listen to FM radio (and record it)
- USB Mass Storage support (drag and drop)
- Use of easy to find AAA batteries (as well as ability to use with low cost, rechargable NiHM AAA batteries)

Shuffle Features..
- full size USB 2.0 connector -- no need for cable
- smaller physical size

As an owner of the N200, I have found the following..
- backlight hum is slightly annoying .. though most of the time, the backlight is not on (during play) and the player is VERY quiet which is nice (almost too quiet). The backlight can be disabled -- ipod shuffle doesn't have this issue (no display)
- Use of AAA batteries is nice.. I had recharagable AAA batteries from my old PDA which work great in the N200.
- USB 2.0 transfers are very fast .. I am unsure how this compares to the Shuffle..
- Controls and interface is straight forward. I was able to navigate and find my way around the unit with ease.
- Ability to record with the line-in is awesome (main reason for my purchase) -- I have recorded from a huge array of audio sources direct to MP3 and its great.

I ended up getting the 256MB MuVo.. I intend to use it as an ultra-portable recording device (band practices, live performance review, etc..) and 4hr recording at a time is more than adaquate. If your looking at price, the 512MB Shuffle is $99 compared to around $119 or so for the 512MB MuVo.. I think it ultimately depends on you if the additional features are worth it.

Now if I could just find a nice powered microphone that I can connect direct to the line-in on the MuVo, I'll be set.
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