Look back in the EE threads and there are posts there confirming the EMP87 (their first custom BA, used in the Zeus) is a Knowles CI model with custom electrical impedance and other characteristics.
That said, EE's parent company is actually a hearing aid manufacturer (believe that was/is Dean Vang's "main" business), so from what I've read, they actually designed and built the Weapon X dynamic driver from scratch in house. EE also do things from the hearing aid world like cost all the inner components in ferro fluid and a couple of other cool things to extend the working life of their products. Spoke to Dean (head designer / co owner) at Canjam years ago about my Zeus-XR and he reckoned to could wear them on stage for 10 years straight performing every night before you would encounter any issues with the drivers.
Do you know if all of Bob's new designs are Bellsing based, just out of curiosity?
WOW i didn't know that about EE i understand a bit more now why there prices are so high it must cost a fortune in professional labour & materials to make the "Weapon X" DD and other in-house proprietary Technology!
It also makes sense now why they state their BA's are Proprietary and not from elsewhere, i imagine they make them from scratch now considering they make hearing aids which was essentially the technology which Audio/Music Balanced Armature's are based on.
See this is what iv been saying this whole time? It's totally understandable a company charging premium prices when they are using in-house built driver's or paying Knowles & Sonion a pretty penny for their latest & greatest Driver's, but when your changing £500-£2000 for a IEM but your throwing in the cheapest balanced Armature drivers on the market it's unacceptable even "IF" the EM in question sounds great imagine what it would sound like with the latest Knowles or Sonion BA's? I imagine phenomenal! This is where i come back to my original point? When you pay extremely high premium prices you expect EVERYTHING to be PREMIUM from the Drivers to the Cable to the Accessories! Developer's like Empire Ears ect.. need to charge a higher price due to the Cost of Production & R&D add to that the wages they must pay for professional staff?
Another way of looking at it is?
If KZ,CCA, KBear ect.. can turn a profit on IEMS with 1 Dynamic Driver+7 Balanced Armature Drivers for less than £75 imagine the profit using these Drivers and Charging £500-£1.500?
Don't get me wrong I know Bob "Use to" include Filters & Half decent 2 or 3 Cables but, KZ are now implementing tuning switches on Double Dynamic IEM's for less than £20? I'm referring to the new Caster which i now own and is actually quite a good IEM for the price.
And i know what some of you will say? there are two different business models, 1. charge low prices make a small profit on each item and sell thousands in order to turn a profit or 2. Charge high prices with a larger profit but sell much fewer item's, BUT , the later shouldn't use 50% of the formers materials and charge premium high-end kilobuck prices! the difference between the 2 models only works if the later uses much higher quality materials to justify the price hike!
I absolutely HATE knocking Bob he really is a great guy but, finding out they used cheap Bellsing BA's in Elan+(which i payed nearly £500 for) and now the Na-Le & Event Horizon fiasco with buyers not receiving ANY of the items they payed for 1-2.5 years later is TOTALLY unacceptable AND what REALLY done it for me was when i found out IMR were offering a $40 IEM as a replacement for Na-Le which cost $199 absaloutly FLOORED ME!! I know that they made a few changes to Dawn which added IMR branding ect.. but at the heart it is still a monitor which cost a quarter of the price the monitor it is replacing!
I was not there when Trinity Audio went bust and ripped off "literally" 100's of customers! but after speaking to buyers involved and read many posts ext.. i came to the conclusion it was NOT Bob's fault as most people pointed out he was ONLY the designer!
But, and this is a premature BIG but, IF it does and it is looking that way IMR is going down the same route as Trinity with Bob firmly Holding the reigns i am deeply deeply sad, because i know Bob would NEVER have done this intentionally but I'm afraid not everyone will feel the same and will put the blame squarely at Bob which is a REAL shame because Bob is such a great dude with a heart of gold who made some of the finest In-Ear Monitors i have ever owned in my 49 years on this planet
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My hopes are this is just bad business handling which "Can" be rectified and make all the unfortunate customers who bought Na-Le & EH whole again so Bob can carry on designing and building fantastic monitors?
Lastly in regards to your question is IMR using Bellsing BA's in their latest models? i cannot answer this because i was only inquiring about Elan+, but ask yourself this?
If they used them in a premium product like Elan+ why wouldn't they use them in something like Enigma? I truly hope they dont because even if IEM's like Enigma sound great, which they just might? Imagine how it would have sounded with high-end Sonion or Knowles drivers!
That's it now guys iv done more than enough IMR bashing which i REALLY hate to do! but i thought i should inform people who are saving their last pennies or even getting loans to buy these VERY expensive In-Ear Monitors only to find out they are using the most basic & cheapest Balanced Armature drivers on the market?
My advice from now on in would be to ask Brandon or Bob the "exact" drivers being used BEFORE you part with your hard earned cash, this way you can at least make your own mind up if you think the cost reflects the quality?
And just so everyone is aware? I don't like offering up personal information on public forums! But if anyone doubts what i am saying i can PM you the email containing the above information instead?
Once Again, I wish you ALL a very Merry Christmas & Happy New Years and my Kindest Regards
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