well, my little anti-apple friend just bought an iHp-120, brought it to school today, and i took it from him for about 4 classes and lunch and played around with it. I did not like it all, i am very used to and very biased to my iPod. I am not really technology smart, so my iPod is much easier to use and much more functional for my purposes than the iRiver. The menus I thought were a little hard to navigate compared to the iPod and the playlist functionality does not seem as easy as the iTunes playlists do. this probably appeals to the techno geek, not the everyday person. Obviosly since the iPod outsells the iRiver hands down. I would like to see recording and line out built into the iPod, but otherwise, I will stick with my iPod. I would like to play with it a little more, but he said he might exchange it for an iPod, and I am now making fun of him to the end for being such a d-bag. Take my experience with a grain of salt, I have had iPods for 3 years, and the iRiver for about 4 hours.