iFi audio xDSD- The Official Thread
Mar 3, 2019 at 1:19 AM Post #1,396 of 2,506
Sony does make quality products, no doubt about that. My brother's NW-WM1Z is God-like! :upside_down:

Wow Bansaku, your brother has VERY expensive taste!! lol

Yeah I've been a Sony fan for years now. My TV's a Sony, as is my blu-ray player. I've owned the Sony A20 Walkman, and a couple of their headphones like 1A, and also their cameras and wireless TV headphones. For smartphones, I've had the Z3 (one of my ATFs), the X Performance and the XZ3, which I returned after only 2 weeks as its camera was not up to par. But the 1 coming out soon.................... I predict GREAT things there! Their phones just "WOW" me in a way that other phones don't.
 
Mar 3, 2019 at 6:33 PM Post #1,398 of 2,506
Would it be possible to Add LDAC support over firmware update?

There's always a possibility for that to happen but we have nothing to comment at this time.

Any idea if there will be an xDSD with different coating?

Nope.

I was told that If I kept the Charger plugged into the Device when it is Fully Charged it will decreases the lifespan of the internal Battery on the Device. Is this the case for this AMP when using it as a permanent Desktop AMP? Does this AMP have a smart feature that preserve the Internals Battery Lifespan?

http://support.ifi-audio.com/kb/faq.php?id=841

Do I plug the USB Port into the Outlet or PC for Desktop?

Doesn't matter.
 
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Mar 3, 2019 at 9:55 PM Post #1,400 of 2,506
Mar 4, 2019 at 1:27 AM Post #1,403 of 2,506
I’ve looked but can’t seem to find it... what’s the difference in sound signature between “Measure” and “Listen” filters on the xDSD?
"Different digital filters are available for PCM & DSD. For listening enjoyment, we recommend the transient optimized minimum-phase 'Listen' filter but feel free to choose the frequency response optimised ‘Measure' filter."

I can't tell the difference between the two but I've only begun playing with high freq sample rates. I've seen reviews that claim to prefer the Measure filter for DSD.
 
Mar 4, 2019 at 5:36 PM Post #1,405 of 2,506
Note to @iFi audio - if you are going to include several filters in a product, small differences between them are a good idea... if you are going to include only a couple, maybe larger differences :)

What's small to one person might be rather big to someone else. The goal is to make filters which do work as intended andare as finely incorporated into a given product as possible.

To conclude, we've been getting far more positive reactions to our filters than complaints, thus we had to do this right we believe :L3000:
 
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Mar 4, 2019 at 5:53 PM Post #1,406 of 2,506
What's small to one person might be rather big to someone else. The goal is to make filters which do work as intended andare as finely incorporated into a given product as possible. To conclude, we've been getting far more positive reactions to our filters than complaints, thus we had to do this right we believe :L3000:

The other two filters, 3D and XBass+ are done extremely well. I appreciate the quality and the subtlety of both of them and the combined effect (both on) is great for "V-ing" mid-range IEMs up just a bit without getting offensive. Great stuff, well done! I look forward to testing out the PCM vs DSD performance of the Listen/Measure filters once I have things set up right.

The xDSD is my favorite portable. Sound quality is significantly better than my new FiiO M9, for example; their balanced circuit comes close but the xDSD still wins.
 
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Mar 4, 2019 at 5:59 PM Post #1,407 of 2,506
The other two filters, 3D and XBass+ are done extremely well. I appreciate the quality and the subtlety of both of them and the combined effect (both on) is great for "V-ing" mid-range IEMs up just a bit without getting offensive. Great stuff, well done! I look forward to testing out the PCM vs DSD performance of the Listen/Measure filters once I have things set up right.

The xDSD is my favorite portable. Sound quality if significantly better than my new FiiO M9, for example; their balanced circuit comes close but the xDSD still wins.

Thanks and enjoy!
 
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Mar 4, 2019 at 6:33 PM Post #1,408 of 2,506
Thanks and enjoy!
Well, I have two xDSDs, so I must enjoy them as well :).

My point was that for the Measure/Listen filter I've not found anyone who hears much of a difference. If this is because one is for PCM, and the other for DSD, then maybe labeling could make it more obvious. If they are general purpose filters I stand by what I said, though. The 3D and XBass+ are definitely pretty cool and I can hear the difference.

In the end, it is your product to decide on design and features. I am glad, and not surprised you receive positive feedback on it. That said, I think I've paid for the right to provide feedback - your right to take it or not!
 
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Mar 4, 2019 at 7:37 PM Post #1,409 of 2,506
Here is my hard worked review on xdsd. -

Xdsd is sort of silver, and sort of gray and very shiny. It is an audio product that enhances ( I know I’m using some teknical words but it means - makes it better ) sound, it’s also gots this hi teck thing called Bluetooth ( dumb name I know - but don’t blame me ) anyways you won’t believe it but it can transmit sounds without wires - like OMG!! that’s fning amazaballs.!

Anyhoo it has lots of little bitty lights that light up just like a tiny tiny Christmas tree, it’s got red, green, and blue and even purple just like Christmas!!! :) And even the knobby turn thing for the sound lights up like the 4th of July, Cept when it’s Red it makes my ears tingle all funny and I can’t hear my mom yelling at me :) ha ha...

I like the sound of this xdsd thingy! it sounds better than my old westing house and rca radios , and even my newfangled Soni casseet player. I thinks it sounds as good as my old dog Seamus howling, and that’s somthin.

So that’s my re- view, I don’t have much speriance with all this new fangled sound stuff but I likes the shine and the little bitty lights a lot!! Oh and I heard some folks called it a fingerprint magnet but metal or my fingers don’t stick to it - so that’s some fake newz there my friends.

I hope you liked my professornal review and I hopes to do more :)
 
Mar 5, 2019 at 7:59 AM Post #1,410 of 2,506
On the listen/measure switch I have a hard time of finding any meaningful sound difference. Also someone earlier in the thread mentioned that their unit had dings on it out of the box- mine also had two noticeable dings on it out of the box.

I gave up trying to photograph them because of the very reflective surface. The alloy they used is really soft so I can see it getting dinged up very easy. It’s my only qualm ( the finish ) with this little gem- well that and the bug where you have to reset BT or power cycle to get sound again.

Would love to get LDAC, if they could throw that in with the bug fix that would be dandy. :wink: Also I could see a real case for this thing as being a real plus- maybe like a slide in tube/sleeve type where only the front and back are exposed.

Sound wise they nailed it, the more I listen the more I appreciate it. Rich and vibrant with oodles of detail and a nice 3D ish stage. Not the widest but the sense of space/ depth is really well done. Cymbals and piano are my go to’s for testing timbre and xdsd handles them with proper attack and decay and they sound just right. Smooth with a hint of warmth but very dynamic and engaging.

I’m finding it hard to just listen to my daps without xdsd. They sound less dynamic and ‘flat’ for lack of a better word. It just goes to show it’s all about implementation and not so much about using the latest dac and numbers.

Oh, and I love the ifi OTA USB C cable, very nice and flexible and a very good price at just 15 ducketts imo.

Some Arkenstone with morning java :) Edit: I just realized probably few of you know who David Arkenstone is, well he’s a new age ‘cough’ multi instrumentalist that produces his own stuff. I love it because it’s almost all instrumental and recorded under the Narada label which does a great job mastering their recordings. You get to hear many, many types of instruments on an Arkenstone record.

I also like Waveform Records for their great mastering and trippy material.

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