iFi Audio Pro iDSD discussion thread
Aug 10, 2022 at 1:03 AM Post #3,241 of 3,458
@iFi audio , Is the Signature Roon ready ?
I think you're putting too much emphasis on "Roon Ready" and "Roon Tested" certifications. Plenty of examples online of devices that are not "certified" but work fine with Roon. Just because it's not certified as Roon Ready or Tested doesn't mean a device won't work with Roon. As I said, the iFi iDSD connected via ethernet is immediately recognized by my Roon desktop software as a Roon capable endpoint. Works flawlessly as far as I can see. Obviously iFi can officially chime in here with regards to official certifications but again, just because it's not Roon certified doesn't mean it doesn't work.... mine works with no issues.
It is recognized only via AirPlay or via USB. AirPlay is limited to 44.1 frequency and all hi-res files and MQA files and DSD files are downgraded to 44.1 kHz 24 bits. It is not a matter of official or not. It is a RAAT protocol that IFI need to adopt.
 
Aug 10, 2022 at 1:04 AM Post #3,242 of 3,458
Not officially. Thanks for asking though!
What do you mean by not officially ?
Is it supported unofficially? How?
I know you guys developped a workaround called IFI bridge that it is a squeezebox lite. Here, MQA is supported and PCM files are suported up to 48/24. Any higher quality PCM stream is downgraed to 48/24. DSD files are converted to PCM 44/24...
Why do you IFI guys force me to purchase a seperate capable streamer or connected by USB in order to use IFI PRO IDSD to its full capabilities (PCM 768/ DSD 512)?
 
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Aug 10, 2022 at 2:34 AM Post #3,243 of 3,458
It is recognized only via AirPlay or via USB. AirPlay is limited to 44.1 frequency and all hi-res files and MQA files and DSD files are downgraded to 44.1 kHz 24 bits. It is not a matter of official or not. It is a RAAT protocol that IFI need to adopt.
Ok let’s put this to rest once and for all. Let me fire up my iDSD and check max resolution
 
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Aug 10, 2022 at 2:51 AM Post #3,244 of 3,458
It would seem you are somewhat correct. I am not using airplay because there’s no wifi connection setup but it must be using AirPlay even though I’m on a Windows PC not a OSX device and I am indeed limited to 44khz using the iDSD as a Roon endpoint with ethernet cable only.
 

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Aug 10, 2022 at 2:52 AM Post #3,245 of 3,458
Plugging in the USB cable things change and all resolutions open up but I’m still streaming to the iDSD as a Roon endpoint using the Roon desktop app
 

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Aug 10, 2022 at 3:02 AM Post #3,247 of 3,458
It would seem you are somewhat correct. I am not using airplay because there’s no wifi connection setup but it must be using AirPlay even though I’m on a Windows PC not a OSX device and I am indeed limited to 44khz using the iDSD as a Roon endpoint with ethernet cable only.
AirPlay can run from Windows server using line Ethernet. No need for Wi Fi
 
Aug 10, 2022 at 5:50 AM Post #3,248 of 3,458
What do you mean by not officially ?
Is it supported unofficially? How?

By my previous post I meant that Pro iDSD is not supported officially, thus it's unsupported. Hope this helps, thanks!
 
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Sep 13, 2022 at 8:35 AM Post #3,249 of 3,458
It would seem you are somewhat correct. I am not using airplay because there’s no wifi connection setup but it must be using AirPlay even though I’m on a Windows PC not a OSX device and I am indeed limited to 44khz using the iDSD as a Roon endpoint with ethernet cable only.
hi:) How have you managed to get the idsd to work with ethernet as a roon endpoint? I never have managed to get the app working in order to get that. I don't know if IFI audio still got plan for a firmwere update and a roon certification for officially beeing an endpoint, but I sure am waiting for this.
 
Sep 13, 2022 at 3:37 PM Post #3,250 of 3,458
I don't know if IFI audio still got plan for a firmwere update and a roon certification for officially beeing an endpoint, but I sure am waiting for this.

That utility is still investigated, but we're not sure whether it's possible or not. If it is, we'll do our best to have it enabled. Thanks!
 
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Sep 13, 2022 at 4:48 PM Post #3,251 of 3,458
That utility is still investigated, but we're not sure whether it's possible or not. If it is, we'll do our best to have it enabled. Thanks!
I love ifi, but the network capability of the idsd is very limited and a Roon endpoint utility would be super useful. And for that, this “investigation” seems to take a very long time…
 
Sep 14, 2022 at 5:22 AM Post #3,252 of 3,458
And for that, this “investigation” seems to take a very long time…

Yes, because it's not an easy task since our Pro iDSD wasn't designed to have this utility in the first place. We're aware that folks want it and that's why we don't give up. Hope this helps, thanks!
 
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Sep 19, 2022 at 4:21 PM Post #3,254 of 3,458
Although this review isn't really related to Pro iDSD, it's still about our Pro-range Signature product (Pro iCAN) and a brilliant watch all in all made by @Sajid Amit :


That was very interesting indeed. The versality is key nowdays, yet one amp or one dac that can do a LOT of things might sometimes fall onto the trap of "gadget", things that are here and you will never use. On the other side, and I talk about the iDSD signature here, at first, I thought "why the hell so many triggers and stuff", but then, you see it through the fact that there are simply SO many headphones/iem out there, that offering a sort of custom tailor to your dac and/or amp can make your gear matches something that oterwise wouldn't. And for me, that is the key to the risk of our passion, we tend to switch gear because one association suddenly does not work anymore. And this review tend to point that, of course some match won't work, most will, and will through adjusting stuff on the amp.
I am totally ok sonically wise with the iDSD, I do admit I would love to test my TH900 with the iCAN, though I can't justify the price for my uses.
 
Sep 20, 2022 at 6:08 AM Post #3,255 of 3,458
The versality is key nowdays

It's been our priority since the very beginning. That's just the way how we do things and although some folks don't find extra knobs and switches too useful, most still do :)
 
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