[Katie88]

bonjour, décidément ifi pro donne l'impression d'être des débutants, il parle, ...... il parle, ...... tous les mois le je DSD nous avons une date et il est reporté au mois ... pourquoi, ......... c'est un dac avant tout, pas un ampli casque, .....


bonjour, définitivement ifi pro donne l'impression d'être des débutants, il parle, ...... il parle, ...... tous les mois le i DSD nous donne une date et il est reporté au mois d'après, et s'il y aura des options supplémentaires, le prix augmentera donc encore, ....... et si certains n'utilisent pas ces options, ils devront payer un IDSD plus cher, .... ... pourquoi,. ........ c'est un dac avant tout, pas un ampli casque, ...........

Translation:
hello, ifi pro definitely gives the impression of being beginners, he speaks, ...... he speaks, ...... every month the i DSD gives us a date and it is postponed to the next month, and if there will be additional options, the price will increase again too, ....... and if some of us do not use these options, we will have to pay for a more expensive IDSD, .... . Why,. ........ it's a dac foremost, not a headphone amp, ...........

 

[aterville]

Folks, we have a major announcement.

iFi audio has recently returned from a couple of outstanding audio shows – CanJam in New York, USA and Bristol Sound and Vision, UK.

As promised, audiences had the chance to audition the pre-production model of the new Pro iDSD. This gave us the invaluable opportunity to gather feedback from the end user, directly.

We couldn’t miss out on the final chance to let our potential customers drive the Pro concept forward just one more time.

So, as is our want, we have taken the feedback on board and are tweaking the hardware and the software in response to these comments.

It seems that certain markets required the additional 2.5mm headphone socket and some the 4.4mm – so we’re doing both. Watch this space for more info on how and why!

Inevitably this will have an impact on the official launch date of both the Pro iDSD and the Pro iRack which we intend to launch together.

Skin says he needs more time (until the end of May) to implement these tweaks and will be able to give us a definite launch date nearer the time.

Order cancelled so long b/s ... welcome to the age of customer

 

[Khragon]

Folks, we have a major announcement.

iFi audio has recently returned from a couple of outstanding audio shows – CanJam in New York, USA and Bristol Sound and Vision, UK.

As promised, audiences had the chance to audition the pre-production model of the new Pro iDSD. This gave us the invaluable opportunity to gather feedback from the end user, directly.

We couldn’t miss out on the final chance to let our potential customers drive the Pro concept forward just one more time.

So, as is our want, we have taken the feedback on board and are tweaking the hardware and the software in response to these comments.

It seems that certain markets required the additional 2.5mm headphone socket and some the 4.4mm – so we’re doing both. Watch this space for more info on how and why!

Inevitably this will have an impact on the official launch date of both the Pro iDSD and the Pro iRack which we intend to launch together.

Skin says he needs more time (until the end of May) to implement these tweaks and will be able to give us a definite launch date nearer the time.

I thought this is a DAC? Why all these worries about a headphone jack? For balance output just put in a 4 pin XLR. Every one have adapters from 4 pin xlr to what ever connector the need for their headphones already. Not that hard.

 

[tonyo442]

[QUOTE = "Khragon, poste: 14095874, membre: 329458"] Je pensais que c'est un CAD? Pourquoi toutes ces inquiétudes à propos d'une prise casque? Pour la sortie d'équilibre il suffit de mettre dans un XLR 4 broches. Chacun a des adaptateurs de 4 broches xlr à n'importe quel connecteur le besoin de leurs écouteurs déjà. Pas si difficile. [/ QUOTE]
exactement, sur un XLR 4 broches tout est possible,.......

 

[dolstein]

I thought this is a DAC? Why all these worries about a headphone jack? For balance output just put in a 4 pin XLR. Every one have adapters from 4 pin xlr to what ever connector the need for their headphones already. Not that hard.

I couldn't agree more. Personally, I never thought it was necessary to include a headphone amp in the DAC at all. It just adds to the cost of the unit, and these features become redundant once you purchase the Pro iCan, as many will. But if you're going to include a balanced headphone output in the DAC, just use a 4pin XLR. Remember - this is a DESKTOP unit. If there isn' enough room on the faceplace for both a 6.5mm single ended and a 4pin XLR, just include a the 4pin XLR, and throw in an adapter cable for single ended cables.

 

[WNBC]

Wow, I'm sure this DAC will be amazing but I wonder if the delay is worth the additional headphone inputs. As mentioned, a high percentage of end users will be supplying their own external amp. Could this have been done in an updated version down the road with a beefy amp model for people looking for an all-in-one solution? They are going to re-machine the face plates of all the production models? I assume this DAC was already deep in production.

Any elaboration on the software tweaks suggested at CanJAM and elsewhere? Too hard to do in a firmware update done by end users? I guess the answer will be yes.

I wasn't quite in the market for a new DAC but I definitely like iFi products so I can understand the disappointment in what seems to be the last missing major component of the iFi lineup, a reference level DAC.

Good luck guys in your wait. Hopefully at the very least they are making sufficient numbers of these so that once it is released you won't have to be on a waiting list to get one.

 

[gerb0075]

Folks, we have a major announcement.

iFi audio has recently returned from a couple of outstanding audio shows – CanJam in New York, USA and Bristol Sound and Vision, UK.

As promised, audiences had the chance to audition the pre-production model of the new Pro iDSD. This gave us the invaluable opportunity to gather feedback from the end user, directly.

We couldn’t miss out on the final chance to let our potential customers drive the Pro concept forward just one more time.

So, as is our want, we have taken the feedback on board and are tweaking the hardware and the software in response to these comments.

It seems that certain markets required the additional 2.5mm headphone socket and some the 4.4mm – so we’re doing both. Watch this space for more info on how and why!

Inevitably this will have an impact on the official launch date of both the Pro iDSD and the Pro iRack which we intend to launch together.

Skin says he needs more time (until the end of May) to implement these tweaks and will be able to give us a definite launch date nearer the time.

Will purchasers have the option to purchase either version, depending on their individual needs/preferences? Or, will you limit distribution to only one version per market?

Finally, speaking for the entire iFI enthusiast community, can you PLEASE release the version with the 2.5mm socket on 3/15/18 as most recently promised?!! You must have a supply of these units ready as their release was FINALLY supposed to take place this week.

 

[iFi audio]

One thing about ifi is they really know how to laugh in the face of their customer base.

That's not our intention at all. We do what we have to.

Wow, I'm sure this DAC will be amazing but I wonder if the delay is worth the additional headphone inputs. As mentioned, a high percentage of end users will be supplying their own external amp. Could this have been done in an updated version down the road with a beefy amp model for people looking for an all-in-one solution? They are going to re-machine the face plates of all the production models? I assume this DAC was already deep in production.

Pro iDSD is in a very advanced state of production and that's why we've initially set the release date for it. But since the product visited many shows, additional feedback was gathered in the process and we're able to address some needs, the decission was made to delay the product a bit more and make everyone happy.

Yes, many people will use an external headphone amp with Pro iDSD, yet there are many individuals on a lookout for a one box solution that literally does 'it all' and we want to satisfy such crowd as well.

Any elaboration on the software tweaks suggested at CanJAM and elsewhere? Too hard to do in a firmware update done by end users? I guess the answer will be yes.

Our goal is to deliver as complete product as possible. Firmware updates might happen in the future, but we want to make the first one as good as possible.

Good luck guys in your wait. Hopefully at the very least they are making sufficient numbers of these so that once it is released you won't have to be on a waiting list to get one.

Thank you!

Will purchasers have the option to purchase either version, depending on their individual needs/preferences? Or, will you limit distribution to only one version per market?

We'll let people here know how this will look like shortly.

Finally, speaking for the entire iFI enthusiast community, can you PLEASE release the version with the 2.5mm socket on 3/15/18 as most recently promised?!! You must have a supply of these units ready as their release was FINALLY supposed to take place this week.

That's a very reasonable conclusion. But the global launch will involve both versions at the same time, sorry.

 

[Roscoeiii]

@iFi audio y'all are doing great. Your communication is generally excellent and most of us understand that you may not want to reveal everything at once. Y'all are responsive to HeadFi input which is also a huge plus in my book. And then there is the stunning value that you represent in terms of the performance you provide. The iDSD Micro BL is just a stunning achievement for the price. Keep up the great work!

 

[EVOLVIST]

I'm sure this unit will be more than worth the wait. I have no doubt in my mind. iFi always delivers. This time will be no different.

So, some of you guys might want to consider lightning up a little. Just consider it. iFi puts themselves out in the community, on these message boards, because they believe in great customer service and interaction with their clients. This obviously means that iFi is also aware that they could potentially taking a pounding from frustrated consumers, now and again. That does not mean, however, that they deserve to take a beating for their efforts.

 

[iFi audio]

@iFi audio y'all are doing great. Your communication is generally excellent and most of us understand that you may not want to reveal everything at once. Y'all are responsive to HeadFi input which is also a huge plus in my book. And then there is the stunning value that you represent in terms of the performance you provide. The iDSD Micro BL is just a stunning achievement for the price. Keep up the great work!

Thanks!

I'm sure this unit will be more than worth the wait. I have no doubt in my mind. iFi always delivers. This time will be no different.

So, some of you guys might want to consider lightning up a little. Just consider it. iFi puts themselves out in the community, on these message boards, because they believe in great customer service and interaction with their clients. This obviously means that iFi is also aware that they could potentially taking a pounding from frustrated consumers, now and again. That does not mean, however, that they deserve to take a beating for their efforts.

We do understand why good people here get frustrated and we resonate with this, we really do. But at times we have to do what we have to do, at times the lesser evil is the only way to go if the greater good is the goal.

 

[WNBC]

I’m sure it was a tough decision to halt production. I will definitely be interested in the final product and reviews. I am currently not looking for a DAC, but if it turns out that the Pro checks all the right boxes I could see the appeal of a top tier all-in-one unit. In the end, better to do it right the first time rather than have multiple revisions.

 

[bluesaint]

As many has mentioned, and I'll repeat it here. This is a desktop unit, and supposedly a "pro" unit. Every single audiophile at this level has a xlr4 to whatever. Tell me why not just 4 pin xlr? Just do that and no 2.5mm or 3.5mm, or 6.3mm.

 

[Katie88]

Thanks!



We do understand why good people here get frustrated and we resonate with this, we really do. But at times we have to do what we have to do, at times the lesser evil is the only way to go if the greater good is the goal.

‘Greater good’ - ‘lesser evil’ - ‘a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do’ etc. is all very well, but why do you give release dates out in the first place? I mean this has been going on for years - literally! Broken promise after broken promise. It’s really unprofessional and disappointing whichever way you look at it.

 

[iFi audio]

I’m sure it was a tough decision to halt production. I will definitely be interested in the final product and reviews. I am currently not looking for a DAC, but if it turns out that the Pro checks all the right boxes I could see the appeal of a top tier all-in-one unit. In the end, better to do it right the first time rather than have multiple revisions.

Many thanks WNBC for your lovely comment and your understanding.

Best wishes

iFi audio team